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I want to hear what you think!

PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 11:06 am
by spinwizard
Ok so I have to participate in a discussion on the following two topics-

The monarchy should be abolished: Britain should be a republic.

And

The death penalty should be brought back.

I am currently researching the topics and I want to hear your opinions on them.

:)

PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 11:15 am
by DAZMCFC
death penalty brought back yes.
monarchy abolished no. simple as that. :lol:

PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 11:16 am
by spinwizard
DAZMCFC wrote:death penalty brought back yes.
monarchy abolished no. simple as that. :lol:


Meh, I agree with the top one but what is the point in the monarchy :)

PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 11:17 am
by unriggable
Monarchy should be abolished. The royal family has no rights anymore - I heard somewhere it is illegal for the queen to sell things.

PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 11:23 am
by Snorri1234
No to the death penalty. Also abolishment of the monarchy would be pretty neat.

Re: I want to hear what you think!

PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 11:27 am
by The1exile
spinwizard wrote:The monarchy should be abolished: Britain should be a republic.


No.

We're a parliamentary democracy already and the monarchs bring in a lot of tourist income, not to mention it's a cultural tradition.

spinwizard wrote:The death penalty should be brought back.


Absolutely not.

While I think there are people who deserve to die, murder committed by an individual is a completely different thing to murder sanctioned by the state.

In any case, never heard the saying "death's too good for them"?

PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 11:37 am
by Norse
Yes to both.

Death penalty for stealing my car radio. Also death penalty for starving families who steal a loaf of bread.

Monarchy to be abolished, and everyone within a 10th cousin radius also be put to death.

Any questions?

PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 11:43 am
by Strife
The Queen has almost no power, the only thing she has is the title queen and a helluva lot of money. Parliament rules, the queen is kept as more of a tradition. This was told to me a week or two ago by my history teacher. As for the death penalty take it or leave it. :wink:

PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 11:48 am
by cena-rules
Death penalty yes

life for a life

abolition of the monarchy no

the monarchy brings in a lot of tourism and gives the brits something to be proud of

PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 11:49 am
by autoload
Norse wrote:Yes to both.

Death penalty for stealing my car radio. Also death penalty for starving families who steal a loaf of bread.

Monarchy to be abolished, and everyone within a 10th cousin radius also be put to death.

Any questions?


I agree. Although I would be a bit more lenient and only put to death down to the 9th cousin.

PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 11:50 am
by got tonkaed
autoload wrote:
Norse wrote:Yes to both.

Death penalty for stealing my car radio. Also death penalty for starving families who steal a loaf of bread.

Monarchy to be abolished, and everyone within a 10th cousin radius also be put to death.

Any questions?


I agree. Although I would be a bit more lenient and only put to death down to the 9th cousin.


if your not doing it to the 10th....what is even the point?

PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 11:55 am
by spinwizard
:lol:

PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 12:15 pm
by The1exile
cena-rules wrote:Death penalty yes

life for a life


"An eye for an eye makes the whole world go blind."
-Mahatma Ghandi

PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 12:19 pm
by -ShadySoul-
Monarchy: i could care less since i dont know much about Britain or their power figures....
Death Penalty: yes, but not like in the old days....u were killed for anything. Just the most violent crimes should be punished by death penalties... like rape, murder, molesting little children, and terrorism.

PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 12:25 pm
by Guiscard
No. The Queen is about as respected, diplomatic and tactful ambassador we could hope for. It is great to have a figure above petty politics to represent the country. She takes no sides. Plus we pay something like 80p each through taxes for their maintenance, taking into account the charity works and general representation they give us. And the tourist dollar...

And no. It isn't a deterrent and we can never be 100% sure someone is guilty. There are countless countless cases of new evidence declaring prisoners accused of murder innocent after years in prison. If they were dead then we'd have their blood on our hands.

PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 12:36 pm
by MeDeFe
You need the monarchy, without them you'd lose most of your tourists and 2 out of 3 papers (especially tabloids) would go bankrupt within a month because they wouldn't have anything to write about anymore.

As for the death penalty, no, I wouldn't argue for it if I were you. It costs as much as or more than lifelong imprisonment. If there's a screw-up and an innocent person dies there's nothing to be done about it, if an innocent person goes to jail at least he can be set free again and given some recompense, which is a lot better for public relations and also morally more acceptable. And speaking of morals, the difference between the acts of a murderer and the acts of the person who switches on the electric chair or injects the poison is that one of those is institutonalised and the other is not.

PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 12:57 pm
by Snorri1234
Death Penalty costs way more. (At least in the USA.)

PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 1:06 pm
by The1exile
MeDeFe wrote:And speaking of morals, the difference between the acts of a murderer and the acts of the person who switches on the electric chair or injects the poison is that one of those is institutonalised and the other is not.


"It is noteworthy that persons are pronounced mad by officials destitute of evidence that themselves are sane."

Ambrose Bierce, the Devil's Dictionary

Re: I want to hear what you think!

PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 2:13 pm
by xtratabasco
The1exile wrote:
spinwizard wrote:The monarchy should be abolished: Britain should be a republic.


No.

We're a parliamentary democracy already and the monarchs bring in a lot of tourist income, not to mention it's a cultural tradition.






lol I just spit my coffee all over the place.


Brits have been getting raped for centuries by the royalty , but that is there own fault becuase there brain dead so they deserve it.

Re: I want to hear what you think!

PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 4:21 pm
by mr. incrediball
xtratabasco wrote:
The1exile wrote:
spinwizard wrote:The monarchy should be abolished: Britain should be a republic.


No.

We're a parliamentary democracy already and the monarchs bring in a lot of tourist income, not to mention it's a cultural tradition.






lol I just spit my coffee all over the place.


Brits have been getting raped for centuries by the royalty , but that is there own fault becuase there brain dead so they deserve it.


and... yep, all my respect for you just went down the drain.

Re: I want to hear what you think!

PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 4:27 pm
by Norse
mr. incrediball wrote:
and... yep, all my respect for you just went down the drain.


I'm sure this one hit home to xtra....

Re: I want to hear what you think!

PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 4:28 pm
by mr. incrediball
Norse wrote:
mr. incrediball wrote:
and... yep, all my respect for you just went down the drain.


I'm sure this one hit home to xtra....


yeah... well... i... shut up -_-

Re: I want to hear what you think!

PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 4:30 pm
by The1exile
xtratabasco wrote:Brits have been getting raped for centuries by the royalty , but that is there own fault becuase there brain dead so they deserve it.


Really. Like how.

PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 4:31 pm
by MasterKujacnbsh
Death penalty is so hipocritical.

PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 4:32 pm
by Norse
MasterKujacnbsh wrote:Death penalty is so hipocritical.


Well, maybe if you are keeping people alive for terrible spelling.