Conquer Club

jay_a2j wrote:TO INVADE IRAN.


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,305686,00.html

Nobody was injured in the October 23rd attack on Combat Outpost Cashe, but one U.S. vehicle was damaged, officials said.

Frigidus wrote:

jay_a2j wrote:TO INVADE IRAN.


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,305686,00.html

Nobody was injured in the October 23rd attack on Combat Outpost Cashe, but one U.S. vehicle was damaged, officials said.

If the government can get themselves to war off a beaten up truck I'm impressed. Seriously though, we won't go to war. The public is already pissed off. They aren't insane.

Napoleon Ier wrote:just bomb the hell out of em. for laafs. why bother occupying, smash them up a la Israel '81

Serbia wrote:No kidding. At this point, we don't have to search for rockets to have reason to invade Iran. Facing facts, Iran is a greater threat to the world than Saddam was before we invaded Iraq. Iran is trying to get nukes, and they've already promised to bomb Israel with it. Even Europe (UK in particular) is talking about Iran as a serious threat. I'm confident that there will be a war involving the West and Iran in the near future. Iran is already fighting a proxy war against us in Iraq as it is, and these rockets are just more evidence of that fact. Anyone with understanding of the situation there knows that Iran has a very heavy hand not just in Iraq, but in the Syrian and Lebanese governments as well.

Serbia wrote:I hate to say this, but just because you don't find the WMD doesn't mean they didn't exist. Do you forget the evidence that Saddam DID gas his own people (Kurds in the north)?

Gitmo Bay is not "awful positions". What exactly constitutes torture in your opinion? Draping underwear over a guy's head? A female pointing at your genitals? OH NO! The horror! Try going back in time, to one of Saddam's torture chambers, where they'd cut off limbs, tear the flesh off people, brutally murdering political prisoners. Or do I also have to remind you that the prisoner we have in Cuba are prisoners of war? Please, there is nothing that you can point to in Gitmo that is actual "torture".

Serbia wrote:I hate to say this, but just because you don't find the WMD doesn't mean they didn't exist. Do you forget the evidence that Saddam DID gas his own people (Kurds in the north)?

Gitmo Bay is not "awful positions". What exactly constitutes torture in your opinion? Draping underwear over a guy's head? A female pointing at your genitals? OH NO! The horror! Try going back in time, to one of Saddam's torture chambers, where they'd cut off limbs, tear the flesh off people, brutally murdering political prisoners. Or do I also have to remind you that the prisoner we have in Cuba are prisoners of war? Please, there is nothing that you can point to in Gitmo that is actual "torture".

Prisoners are held in small mesh-sided cells, and lights are kept on day and night. Detainees have rations similar to those of US forces, with consideration for Muslim dietary needs. Detainees are kept in isolation most of the day, are blindfolded when moving within the camp and forbidden to talk in groups of more than three. United States doctrine in dealing with prisoners of war states that isolation and silence are effective means in breaking down the will to resist interrogation. Red Cross inspectors and released detainees have alleged acts of torture, including sleep deprivation, the use of so-called truth drugs, beatings and locking in confined and cold cells. Human rights groups argue that indefinite detention constitutes torture.

The use of Guantánamo Bay as a military prison has drawn fire from human rights organizations and other critics, who cite reports that detainees have been tortured or otherwise poorly treated. Supporters of the detention argue that trial review of detentions has never been afforded to prisoners of war, and that it is reasonable for enemy combatants to be detained until the cessation of hostilities. However, the detainees' status as potential or active terrorists, and the lack of any ratified treaties regarding treatment of captured terrorists, makes the situation particularly complicated.

The Bush administration argued that the Third Geneva Convention does not apply to perceived al-Qaeda or Taliban fighters, since the Geneva convention only applies to uniformed soldiers of a recognized government. Jim Phillips of the Heritage Foundation claimed that "some of these terrorists who are not recognized as soldiers don't deserve to be treated as soldiers." Critics of U.S. policy say the government has violated the Conventions in attempting to create a distinction between 'prisoners of war' and 'illegal combatants'. A U.S. district court partially agreed with the Bush administration, finding that the Geneva Conventions apply to Taliban fighters, but not to Al Qaeda terrorists. Amnesty International has called the situation "a human rights scandal" in a series of reports.

One of the allegations of abuse at the camp is the abuse of the religion of the detainees.The US government has claimed that they respect all religious and cultural sensitivities. However, prisoners released from the camp have alleged that abuse of religion included flushing the Qur'an down the toilet, defacing the Qur'an, writing comments and remarks on the Qur'an, tearing pages out of the Qur'an and denying detainees a copy of the Qur'an. These allegations were highlighted by Pakistan politician Imran Khan.

Napoleon Ier wrote:Its wrong. But who gves a damn about the towelheads terrorist scum. Im not crying for them

radiojake wrote:

Napoleon Ier wrote:Its wrong. But who gves a damn about the towelheads terrorist scum. Im not crying for them

I really hope you're just trying to stir shit up

mandalorian2298 wrote:

Frigidus wrote:

jay_a2j wrote:TO INVADE IRAN.


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,305686,00.html

Nobody was injured in the October 23rd attack on Combat Outpost Cashe, but one U.S. vehicle was damaged, officials said.

If the government can get themselves to war off a beaten up truck I'm impressed. Seriously though, we won't go to war. The public is already pissed off. They aren't insane.

Last time the your public got pissed, the re-elected Bush.

Serbia wrote:No kidding. At this point, we don't have to search for rockets to have reason to invade Iran. Facing facts, Iran is a greater threat to the world than Saddam was before we invaded Iraq. Iran is trying to get nukes, and they've already promised to bomb Israel with it. Even Europe (UK in particular) is talking about Iran as a serious threat. I'm confident that there will be a war involving the West and Iran in the near future. Iran is already fighting a proxy war against us in Iraq as it is, and these rockets are just more evidence of that fact. Anyone with understanding of the situation there knows that Iran has a very heavy hand not just in Iraq, but in the Syrian and Lebanese governments as well.

xtratabasco wrote:

Serbia wrote:No kidding. At this point, we don't have to search for rockets to have reason to invade Iran. Facing facts, Iran is a greater threat to the world than Saddam was before we invaded Iraq. Iran is trying to get nukes, and they've already promised to bomb Israel with it. Even Europe (UK in particular) is talking about Iran as a serious threat. I'm confident that there will be a war involving the West and Iran in the near future. Iran is already fighting a proxy war against us in Iraq as it is, and these rockets are just more evidence of that fact. Anyone with understanding of the situation there knows that Iran has a very heavy hand not just in Iraq, but in the Syrian and Lebanese governments as well.

the Jews have over 100 nukes.

why dont they take care of their own problems?

radiojake wrote: OK Serbia, why don't you book yourself a little holiday and spend sometime in Cuba and have a 3 week vacation at Guatanamo and see how you like it?

radiojake wrote: Saddam gassed the Kurds, yeah thats fucking awful, but thats completely different to having nuclear weapons that 'threatens the security of the free world'. There are awful dictators all around. Check out Africa, and Zimbabwe in particular. President Mugabe is a fucking asshole - but hey, Zimbabwe don't have any real resources that could be stolen that justify the amount of money a military invasion would cost, so we'll just leave him there, shall we?

radiojake wrote: Also, Serbia, I'm going to assume (which, taken isn't always the smartest thing to do, as assumptions are often wrong... but hey, if its good enough for the US administration) by the fact you have an American and Israeli flag in your signature that you would be pretty biased in your leanings in the middle east conflict. We wouldn't have a zionist here would we?

radiojake wrote: You know its funny, you should maybe check out the stats on how many American's have died in America since 9/11 in Road Fatalities. I bet it would be way more than acts of terrorism. Why doesn't America start shutting down all the car manufacturing plants? Or better yet, see how many American's have died in American since 9/11 from cancer's or other diseases that directly or indirectly have come about from the polluted rivers and pesticides and drugs put in all the food we eat.

So, like a good old patriot, please continue being side tract by all the terrorists out there that are hell bent on destroying America, while you blissfully ignore all the things that are killing you all from inside the system.

unriggable wrote:

Serbia wrote:I hate to say this, but just because you don't find the WMD doesn't mean they didn't exist. Do you forget the evidence that Saddam DID gas his own people (Kurds in the north)?

Those two statements have nothing to do with each other.

Strife wrote:

xtratabasco wrote:

Serbia wrote:No kidding. At this point, we don't have to search for rockets to have reason to invade Iran. Facing facts, Iran is a greater threat to the world than Saddam was before we invaded Iraq. Iran is trying to get nukes, and they've already promised to bomb Israel with it. Even Europe (UK in particular) is talking about Iran as a serious threat. I'm confident that there will be a war involving the West and Iran in the near future. Iran is already fighting a proxy war against us in Iraq as it is, and these rockets are just more evidence of that fact. Anyone with understanding of the situation there knows that Iran has a very heavy hand not just in Iraq, but in the Syrian and Lebanese governments as well.

the Jews have over 100 nukes.

why dont they take care of their own problems?

Jews? what do you mean Jews? Do you mean Israelies?

Serbia wrote:
You people can't get off the "resources" bit can you? The simple reason that we aren't in Africa, nor involved in the dispute between India and Pakistan, or the Philippines fighting against the Islamic terrorist there (you being in Australia should be familiar with that) is because it's not considered to be a threat to the USA.

radiojake wrote: No, I'm pretty sure the abundance of oil has everything to do with why the American Military is there.

Go fly your stupid flag, patriot. Or even better, if you agree with the war so much, why don't you join the army. You'll probably be killed. Yet another fool who dies so rich people can get richer.