Conquer Club

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WTF is a torie?

Well, cant speak for 'em all....but im certainly not.

Besides....We're not trying to win a general-erection.

Anarkistsdream wrote:WTF is a torie?

Conservative...

Norse wrote:

Anarkistsdream wrote:WTF is a torie?

Conservative...

a party in britian







and that is the extent of my political knowledge

Norse wrote:

Anarkistsdream wrote:WTF is a torie?

Conservative...

Thanks, bruv.

Gooooo David Cameron! Kick Brown's buttocks!

Anarkistsdream wrote:WTF is a torie?

the singular is actually tory.

And I believe the term derives from irish cattle thieves.

The1exile wrote:

Anarkistsdream wrote:WTF is a torie?

the singular is actually tory.

And I believe the term derives from irish cattle thieves.

I'm trying to think of something funny to say about the common agricultural policy, and do you know what? I can't.

Anyway tories are hung like racehorses. That's where the swagger comes from. I'll be voting for 'em.

Gordon Brown has only one eye so its difficult to believe that he has an accurate picture of his genitalia, Tories look a safer bet to me

there all as bad as each other. they could not give 2 shits for the normal working classes, they line their pockets and thats that.

Cameron is shit. He just plays the media and know fck all, and talk shit. He tries to be like Blair, but Blair had composure and could pull of amazing speeches now and then, and was very good at debating in the Commons.

Anarkistsdream wrote:WTF is a torie?

Mmm... opposite of a Whig?

Titanic wrote:Cameron is shit. He just plays the media and know fck all, and talk shit. He tries to be like Blair, but Blair had composure and could pull of amazing speeches now and then, and was very good at debating in the Commons.

like when he cycled to work and had his briefcase chauffeured in a limo.

id rather vote for david 'blairwannabe' cameron than, gordon 'the pussy' brown, and alistair 'the copycat' darling

heavycola wrote:

Anyway tories are hung like racehorses. That's where the swagger comes from. I'll be voting for 'em.

Welcome to my evil lair...

Telvannia wrote:id rather vote for david 'blairwannabe' cameron than, gordon 'the pussy' brown, and alistair 'the copycat' darling

Gordon Browns a pussy? How exactly? And what exactly did Alistair Darling copycat? On inheritance tax? You know Labour have thought abut raising the limit numerous times since they came into power, and Gordon brown last year actually said that from 2008 onwards the limit would be raise. All Darling did was raise it sooner and higher.

Also, record investment in health and education, thats hardly copycat. In the 18 years the Tories weer in power they bled the health and education sectors almost dry, just so they could please the conservative pussies with "tax cuts".

Too fecking right.

Personally I'm very much against this and Labour's support of it:

and have been from the start.

BUT it's important not to forget all the brilliant things they have done that a Tory government would've never even considered: devolution, minimum wage, far better workers rights, record spending in the public sector, written off load of 3rd world debt, letting Pinochet know exactly what he was - a criminal who's not welcome here, ...

When Gordon Brown decides to have an election (which is NOT David Cameron's choice despite DCs attempts to make it so), my vote will 100% be behind what in my opinion is the best government we've had in a very long time.

Sure, Im guessing that most of you rats have forgotten the "right to buy" policy introduced by the tories.

The single most populatio- wealth enhancing measure ever taken, and because of this, it turned most working classes into middle classes.

Would this have ever happened in a labour government? Doubt it, since they would prefer everyone to rot away in communes.

BTW, there certainly is not better working rights now, in fact labour have shrugged off the unions even more than the tories did. Plus who gives a f*ck about pinochet? Plus I see no benefit to myself writing off the 3rd world debt, especially when considering the British were the only ones to have accrued any debt for the 2nd world war, and despite us "saving the world" we still had to pay the yanks back.

In fact, an independent survey has revealed recently, that in britain, we are now workking longer hours, and being paid less...when taking into account inflation, than we were 15 years ago..


Labour has put us back to the bad old days of the 70's, dont let their spin fool you.

Norse wrote:Sure, Im guessing that most of you rats have forgotten the "right to buy" policy introduced by the tories.

The single most populatio- wealth enhancing measure ever taken, and because of this, it turned most working classes into middle classes.

One good policy in how many years of power?

Against selling off the national transport, communications and utilities to line their own profits? Allowing natural gas to be burnt off to make electricity, so now we have to buy in gas from overseas? I could go on.

Norse wrote:BTW, there certainly is not better working rights now, in fact labour have shrugged off the unions even more than the tories did.

Sorry, but this is the most laughable comment I've ever heard. In a word, no.

Norse wrote:Plus who gives a f*ck about pinochet?

I'm sure the families of now deceased people care an awful lot

Norse wrote: Plus I see no benefit to myself writing off the 3rd world debt, especially when considering the British were the only ones to have accrued any debt for the 2nd world war, and despite us "saving the world" we still had to pay the yanks back.

Lovely to see Tories haven't lost any of their selfishness despite Cameron's attempts to make them seem in some way a nice group of people to have in power.

I'd rather poke a fork in my eye than vote for that cnut.

AlgyTaylor wrote:One good policy in how many years of power?

'twas a massively great policy, as well as many others, such as securing a better future for people in poor situations, who could not afford to buy their own home, like yourself i guess.

This policy did not benefit my parents, but I still agree that it was one of the largest wealth bringing poliicies ever.

Against selling off the national transport, communications and utilities to line their own profits? Allowing natural gas to be burnt off to make electricity, so now we have to buy in gas from overseas? I could go on.

Oh yes, the public secter

Lazy, inefficient, uncompetitive bone idle wastage.

Even Labour MP's Agree with this one...look what theyve done with the postal service...and also they had put the final nail into the coffin of the publich transport..Maybe you should read up about this.

Sorry, but this is the most laughable comment I've ever heard. In a word, no.

Oh is it?

The bleatings of an ignorant man, i see.

I'm sure the families of now deceased people care an awful lot

What has chile got to do with the price of mature cheddar?

Lovely to see Tories haven't lost any of their selfishness despite Cameron's attempts to make them seem in some way a nice group of people to have in power.

I'd rather poke a fork in my eye than vote for that cnut.

I feel your pain, you cantankerous, blissfully ignorant, probably jobless git.

Bring back the 70's! Hurrah!

Seriously though, Im assuming that you are either a bitter 60 year old ex-miner, or a 1st year politics student. Learn some facts about what you spout off in future.

The single most populatio- wealth enhancing measure ever taken, and because of this, it turned most working classes into middle classes.

Lol, no it wasnt. It only helped those who could actually afford it, ie, lower middle class. The actual lower class who could barely live on council estates could not afford to buy out their house. The minimum wage has done more to help the lower class close the gap towards the middle class. Btw, the tories were totally against the minimum wage when it was first introduced.

BTW, there certainly is not better working rights now, in fact labour have shrugged off the unions even more than the tories did.

Lol no. The tories did, remember the miners strike? They completely took all power away from unions and left them in a dire situation. Labour do not set out to cause the unions disruption because the unions pay a significant amount of Labours running costs.

Plus who gives a f*ck about pinochet?

Those people who care about human rights, and innocent lives, and freedom of expression and views.

Plus I see no benefit to myself writing off the 3rd world debt, especially when considering the British were the only ones to have accrued any debt for the 2nd world war, and despite us "saving the world" we still had to pay the yanks back.

Firstly, we did not "save the world". We alone could never have won WWII, we only just managed to hold of the Luftwaffe on home territory, and that was because of a huge tactical mistake by Hitler and the high command.

Secondly, it was not only Britain which had debts to the USA and Canada after WWII. Other countries, and European countries, also have debts from the lend-lease programme and the Marshall plan (which alone involved 15 countries).

Writing of 3rd world debt is important. It is this debt which prevents African countries (and the other countries in the world) from expanding their economy, feeding their people, fighting corruption, and eventually leads to the civil wars. Obviously other factors do count, but having billions of pounds of debt removed can help clear air make a difference. Also, it is partly out imperialistic ideas which put them in the situation they are in now, so it should be our duty to their citizens to at least make sure they can live their lives.

In fact, an independent survey has revealed recently, that in britain, we are now workking longer hours, and being paid less...when taking into account inflation, than we were 15 years ago..

Working longer hours..possible..I dunno the statistic on this. Show your proof please.

Being paid less, even after taking inflation into account, pure bullsh*t. Public sectors workers up until this year have recieved an above inflation wage increase (generally 1%-3% above). Private sector workers generally get an even better deal, especially because the finance and service sectors have boomed in the past 10 years within the UK, and these are high paying jobs and have huge amounts of employees (around 65%-70% of the UK workforce).

Oh yes, the public secter Laughing

Lazy, inefficient, uncompetitive bone idle wastage.

The public sector when in good hands can do a very good job. Look at the NHS compares to the private health care in USA. Also, transport fares have rocketed since they were privatised, at least with government subsidies travel resonably priced.

What has chile got to do with the price of mature cheddar?

That depends on how narrow minded your vision and motives are.

I trust the Labour government much more then the Tories. The tories abolished the GLC and made London suffer just because Ken Livingstone, a labour candidate, became the leader of the council. They held back international efforts to end the aparthied in SA. They viewed Nelson Mandela as a terrorist. The bought about a recession in the early 90's. They caused the pound to crash in value. They sucked education and healthcare dry and put them in terrible states. They supported people who had human rights abuses against their names. Want me to continue?

Titanic wrote:

The single most populatio- wealth enhancing measure ever taken, and because of this, it turned most working classes into middle classes.

Lol, no it wasnt. It only helped those who could actually afford it, ie, lower middle class. The actual lower class who could barely live on council estates could not afford to buy out their house. The minimum wage has done more to help the lower class close the gap towards the middle class. Btw, the tories were totally against the minimum wage when it was first introduced.

BTW, there certainly is not better working rights now, in fact labour have shrugged off the unions even more than the tories did.

Lol no. The tories did, remember the miners strike? They completely took all power away from unions and left them in a dire situation. Labour do not set out to cause the unions disruption because the unions pay a significant amount of Labours running costs.

Plus who gives a f*ck about pinochet?

Those people who care about human rights, and innocent lives, and freedom of expression and views.

Plus I see no benefit to myself writing off the 3rd world debt, especially when considering the British were the only ones to have accrued any debt for the 2nd world war, and despite us "saving the world" we still had to pay the yanks back.

Firstly, we did not "save the world". We alone could never have won WWII, we only just managed to hold of the Luftwaffe on home territory, and that was because of a huge tactical mistake by Hitler and the high command.

Secondly, it was not only Britain which had debts to the USA and Canada after WWII. Other countries, and European countries, also have debts from the lend-lease programme and the Marshall plan (which alone involved 15 countries).

Writing of 3rd world debt is important. It is this debt which prevents African countries (and the other countries in the world) from expanding their economy, feeding their people, fighting corruption, and eventually leads to the civil wars. Obviously other factors do count, but having billions of pounds of debt removed can help clear air make a difference. Also, it is partly out imperialistic ideas which put them in the situation they are in now, so it should be our duty to their citizens to at least make sure they can live their lives.

In fact, an independent survey has revealed recently, that in britain, we are now workking longer hours, and being paid less...when taking into account inflation, than we were 15 years ago..

Working longer hours..possible..I dunno the statistic on this. Show your proof please.

Being paid less, even after taking inflation into account, pure bullsh*t. Public sectors workers up until this year have recieved an above inflation wage increase (generally 1%-3% above). Private sector workers generally get an even better deal, especially because the finance and service sectors have boomed in the past 10 years within the UK, and these are high paying jobs and have huge amounts of employees (around 65%-70% of the UK workforce).

Oh yes, the public secter Laughing

Lazy, inefficient, uncompetitive bone idle wastage.

The public sector when in good hands can do a very good job. Look at the NHS compares to the private health care in USA. Also, transport fares have rocketed since they were privatised, at least with government subsidies travel resonably priced.

What has chile got to do with the price of mature cheddar?

That depends on how narrow minded your vision and motives are.

I trust the Labour government much more then the Tories. The tories abolished the GLC and made London suffer just because Ken Livingstone, a labour candidate, became the leader of the council. They held back international efforts to end the aparthied in SA. They viewed Nelson Mandela as a terrorist. The bought about a recession in the early 90's. They caused the pound to crash in value. They sucked education and healthcare dry and put them in terrible states. They supported people who had human rights abuses against their names. Want me to continue?

Titanic, I think you're cool and all, and I like your style.

But don't you think that post was excessively long? I mean, how long did it honestly take you, and why do you care that much?