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Manual (standard) or Automatic Transmission?

PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 5:23 pm
by misterman10
Just wondering which you think is overall better, driving a standard or automatic car. In everyone's opinions, which one is more fun? Which gets better gas mileage? Which do you have? Which do you prefer?

The list goes on, so discuss.

Automatic:
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Manual:
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 5:36 pm
by hecter
Automatic is for pussies who can't drive.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 5:37 pm
by static_ice
I think america might be the only country that uses mostly automatic, and I can't say which is easier but I know standard has better gas mileage

PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 5:51 pm
by ignotus
@ static_ice: QFT!

@ hecter: QFT! :twisted:

PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 6:08 pm
by Dancing Mustard
Manual all the way. Anybody who prefers automatic is just a malcoordinated imbecile who needs to learn to drive.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 6:15 pm
by unriggable
My mom was pissed off when she found out the car she was going to get only came in auto.

I plan to learn to drive only on standard.

But right now I bike everywhere.

PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 4:42 am
by Titanic
I prefer manual because thats all I've ever used. People who use automatic sometimes find it easier...

PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 4:55 am
by autoload
Dancing Mustard wrote:Manual all the way. Anybody who prefers automatic is just a malcoordinated imbecile who needs to learn to drive.


This coming from a 12 year old that iz a poop.

Anyways, I have one of each and I dare say that I prefer driving the manual. The automatic does have it's uses such as rush hour traffic and so forth. Also automatic is preferred if you have a truck and tow heavy loads.

PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 7:42 am
by Dancing Mustard
If when towing heavy loads you enjoy the sensation of causing uneccesary wear to your gearbox, the warm fuzzy feeling you get from being grossly fuel-inefficient, and the joy of overheating your engine... then yes it's preferable to be using an automatic for towing. On the other hand, people who can actually drive use manuals for towing, but you feel free to suit yourself... we just want to see you happy. And after all, we all know that everybody who owns a car is a good driver; don't we?


I'm so glad that my pre-school has these Dorling Kindersly 'How Cars Work' books laying about, don't know how I'd learn anything without their handy-dandy pull-out cross-sections.

Now you run along and bathe in your ignorance of simple motoring mechanics Autoload, my 12 year old brain has a finger-painting class to attend.

PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 7:48 am
by heavycola
here is manuel transmission


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EDIT: for the record the OP suddenly learned how to spell

PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 9:42 am
by autoload
Dancing Mustard wrote:If when towing heavy loads you enjoy the sensation of causing uneccesary wear to your gearbox, the warm fuzzy feeling you get from being grossly fuel-inefficient, and the joy of overheating your engine... then yes it's preferable to be using an automatic for towing. On the other hand, people who can actually drive use manuals for towing, but you feel free to suit yourself... we just want to see you happy. And after all, we all know that everybody who owns a car is a good driver; don't we?


I'm so glad that my pre-school has these Dorling Kindersly 'How Cars Work' books laying about, don't know how I'd learn anything without their handy-dandy pull-out cross-sections.

Now you run along and bathe in your ignorance of simple motoring mechanics Autoload, my 12 year old brain has a finger-painting class to attend.


Your information is poor on so many levels.

Grossly fuel inefficient? Son, when pulling a trailer, your fuel efficiency is naught anyways. Besides, most differences amount to only 1 or 2 MPG nowadays with today's 5 and 6 speed automatics. I would like to see you try to even back up a trailer. Of course I would expect you to be a pro at it because of all the wonderful reading you did about it.

Causing unnecessary wear to your gearbox? Take a look at some owner's manuals for newer vehicles. I guarantee that almost all of them will give a higher tow rating for the automatic than the stick for the same size engine. What do you think the reason for that is? Pulling heavy loads require more slip in your transmission than lighter loads. A torque converter in your automatic transmission can handle reasonable amounts of slip where as the same amount of slip causes a measurable amount of wear on the clutch of a manual transmission. Excessive shifting of an automatic is what causes overheating. Keeping the transmission in third gear reduces the frequent locking and unlocking of the Torque Converter thus reducing heat build up.

Now you run along and bathe in your ignorance of simple motoring mechanics Autoload. Well, I may not be able to swap out an engine or transmission by myself, but I can at least change alternators, do my brakes, tune ups, batteries, lights, etc. So I don't believe I am totally ignorant of "motoring mechanics" as you like to put it.

You better get some books newer than the year you were born my boy.

Research and come back to me when you are educated.

PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 10:09 am
by The Weird One
heavycola wrote:here is manuel transmission


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EDIT: for the record the OP suddenly learned how to spell


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faulty towers. . . great show!

PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 10:30 am
by wicked
I know how heated "guys and cars" discussions can get. Just a reminder to keep the flames out of it.... ahem DM and Auto.

p.s... I love the pictures misterman! :lol:

PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 10:31 am
by The Weird One
:roll:

PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 10:42 am
by autoload
wicked wrote:I know how heated "guys and cars" discussions can get. Just a reminder to keep the flames out of it.... ahem DM and Auto.

p.s... I love the pictures misterman! :lol:


He started it.

PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 11:27 am
by unriggable
Hey wicked!

PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 2:06 pm
by Dancing Mustard
autoload wrote:
wicked wrote:I know how heated "guys and cars" discussions can get. Just a reminder to keep the flames out of it.... ahem DM and Auto.

p.s... I love the pictures misterman! :lol:


He started it.
No I didn't. You did.

Now I am going to stick my tongue out at you in a jeering fashion.

PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 7:56 pm
by misterman10
As I suspected, nobodies posting that they voted automatic, as the thought of them being called pussies :-$ is too much for them to handle.

PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 8:02 pm
by static_ice
misterman10 wrote:As I suspected, nobodies posting that they voted automatic, as the thought of them being called pussies :-$ is too much for them to handle.


and your vote is?

PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 8:03 pm
by misterman10
static_ice wrote:
misterman10 wrote:As I suspected, nobodies posting that they voted automatic, as the thought of them being called pussies :-$ is too much for them to handle.


and your vote is?
Manual, what else

PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 8:16 pm
by static_ice
yeah...

PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 8:17 pm
by The Weird One
HOORAY FOR BIKES :P

PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 1:02 am
by reverend_kyle
I vote automatic, gives me a spare hand to jerk off and a spare hand to eat.


Got a problem I'll shoot you with the other spare hand I have due to not having to move the stick shift.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 9:22 am
by autoload
I voted for the bike anyways.