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The Bible is Brutal
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Mon Oct 01, 2007 1:51 pmby Minister Masket
Even if you don't believe, the Bible makes a rather intriging read.
A few months ago I picked up my copy and flicked to a chapter which I have no hope remembering now. In it, it describes a group of people finding a man picking up logs on a Sunday. As this classifies as work, he had to be punished. Which was - believe it or not - death. Who gave the verdict? God himself. I am not joking. Who knows? Maybe the guy was collecting wood to build a fire for his cold family. Seems harsh, yes?
Any regular readers who know the chapter name and verse number for this little story?
Posted:
Mon Oct 01, 2007 1:54 pmby diddle
damn i have bushy eyebrows
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Mon Oct 01, 2007 1:54 pmby unriggable
By that logic, most reverends are fucked. Their job takes place on sunday.
Re: The Bible is Brutal
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Mon Oct 01, 2007 1:59 pmby diddle
Minister Masket wrote:Even if you don't believe, the Bible makes a rather intriging read.
A few months ago I picked up my copy and flicked to a chapter which I have no hope remembering now. In it, it describes a group of people finding a man picking up logs on a Sunday. As this classifies as work, he had to be punished. Which was - believe it or not - death. Who gave the verdict? God himself. I am not joking. Who knows? Maybe the guy was collecting wood to build a fire for his cold family. Seems harsh, yes?
Any regular readers who know the chapter name and verse number for this little story?
or maybe he was preparing a ceremony for all his satanist friends
Posted:
Mon Oct 01, 2007 2:06 pmby Itrade
According to Leviticus, if you raped a girl you had to pay her father a dowry and get married to her and you could never divorce.
Also, irony: Moses, who was saved from a pharoah who was killing all male children to ensure docility in the slaves, ended up killing all the males of some tribe that he ambushed. This was in like chapter thirty-something of Deuteronomy or one of those books near the start. I'm very sure it was before Judges.
Re: The Bible is Brutal
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Mon Oct 01, 2007 2:11 pmby Nephilim
Minister Masket wrote:Even if you don't believe, the Bible makes a rather intriging read.
A few months ago I picked up my copy and flicked to a chapter which I have no hope remembering now. In it, it describes a group of people finding a man picking up logs on a Sunday. As this classifies as work, he had to be punished. Which was - believe it or not - death. Who gave the verdict? God himself. I am not joking. Who knows? Maybe the guy was collecting wood to build a fire for his cold family. Seems harsh, yes?
Any regular readers who know the chapter name and verse number for this little story?
that would be a really funny story, since the sabbath isn't on, y'know, sunday....
Re: The Bible is Brutal
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Mon Oct 01, 2007 2:47 pmby 2dimes
Nephilim wrote:that would be a really funny story, since the sabbath isn't on, y'know, sunday....
So would this
link accurately discribe the correct night?
Any who it's this one I presume.
(New American Standard Bible)
New American Standard Bible (NASB)
Copyright © 1960, 1962, 1963, 1968, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1975, 1977, 1995 by The Lockman Foundation wrote:Numbers 15:32-36
Sabbath-breaking Punished
32Now while the sons of Israel were in the wilderness, they found a man gathering wood on the sabbath day.
33Those who found him gathering wood brought him to Moses and Aaron and to all the congregation;
34and they put him in custody because it had not been declared what should be done to him.
35Then the LORD said to Moses, "The man shall surely be put to death; all the congregation shall stone him with stones outside the camp."
36So all the congregation brought him outside the camp and stoned him to death with stones, just as the LORD had commanded Moses.
Seems pretty fair to me, It's not like he wasn't warned.
Posted:
Mon Oct 01, 2007 3:31 pmby Titanic
Bit harsh to kill someone who was collecting wood...
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Mon Oct 01, 2007 3:32 pmby Anarkistsdream
Titanic wrote:Bit harsh to kill someone who was collecting wood...
No shit...
"Dear Lord, don't kill me.. I was fucking COLD!"
Posted:
Mon Oct 01, 2007 3:33 pmby Arbustos
How about saying the Old Testament, especially the Pentateuch, is brutal, not the entire Bible...
Posted:
Mon Oct 01, 2007 3:36 pmby Titanic
Anarkistsdream wrote:Titanic wrote:Bit harsh to kill someone who was collecting wood...
No shit...
"Dear Lord, don't kill me.. I was fucking COLD!"
Lucky for the Jews he didn take the oil to keep his family warm
Posted:
Mon Oct 01, 2007 3:38 pmby The1exile
They should have burned him at the stake. Death by stoning is so blunt.
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Mon Oct 01, 2007 3:44 pmby Anarkistsdream
The1exile wrote:They should have burned him at the stake. Death by stoning is so blunt.
*rim shot*
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Mon Oct 01, 2007 3:46 pmby legendkiller717
The1exile wrote:They should have burned him at the stake. Death by stoning is so blunt.
cant believe i actully chuckled at that
Posted:
Mon Oct 01, 2007 3:51 pmby 2dimes
So you are told, plainly to collect your wood for six days out of seven.
You must either be galacticly stupid or defiant to disobey that.
So either one is a pretty good reason to get voted out of the tribe. Use of rocks is a pretty good deterent for anyone thinking it's no biggy.
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Mon Oct 01, 2007 3:52 pmby Anarkistsdream
2dimes wrote:So you are told, plainly to collect your wood for six days out of seven.
You must either be galacticly stupid or defiant to disobey that.
So either one is a pretty good reason to get voted out of the tribe. Use of rocks is a pretty good deterent for anyone thinking it's no biggy.
True dat...
Hell, if GOD spoke to me and told me to do something, I'd listen...
Fact is, God's never said jack shit to me.
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Mon Oct 01, 2007 3:58 pmby 2dimes
The1exile wrote:They should have burned him at the stake.
He must not have gathered enough wood.
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Mon Oct 01, 2007 4:04 pmby The1exile
Actually I thought the guy in charge thought he could keep the wood and save himself the trouble of getting it the next day.
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Mon Oct 01, 2007 4:17 pmby heavycola
Arbustos wrote:How about saying the Old Testament, especially the Pentateuch, is brutal, not the entire Bible...
Because jeffrey dahmer was only evil while he was killing and eating people. And that was hardly any of the time. Aside from that he was a charming young man.
Anyway he said the bible, not the entire bible. The Pentateuch is in the bible. It's the action-packed beginning.
Posted:
Mon Oct 01, 2007 4:20 pmby Arbustos
heavycola wrote:Arbustos wrote:How about saying the Old Testament, especially the Pentateuch, is brutal, not the entire Bible...
Because jeffrey dahmer was only evil while he was killing and eating people. And that was hardly any of the time. Aside from that he was a charming young man.
Anyway he said the bible, not the entire bible. The Pentateuch is in the bible. It's the action-packed beginning.
The "Bible" implies the entire thing... not just a certain chapter or group of books.
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Mon Oct 01, 2007 4:33 pmby heavycola
Arbustos wrote:heavycola wrote:Arbustos wrote:How about saying the Old Testament, especially the Pentateuch, is brutal, not the entire Bible...
Because jeffrey dahmer was only evil while he was killing and eating people. And that was hardly any of the time. Aside from that he was a charming young man.
Anyway he said the bible, not the entire bible. The Pentateuch is in the bible. It's the action-packed beginning.
The "Bible" implies the entire thing... not just a certain chapter or group of books.
But it's
in the bible. Therefore the adjective 'brutal' applies just as much as 'wise', 'peaceful', whatever else you want. Or do the nasty bits not count?
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Mon Oct 01, 2007 4:45 pmby 2dimes
heavycola wrote:Arbustos wrote:heavycola wrote:Arbustos wrote:How about saying the Old Testament, especially the Pentateuch, is brutal, not the entire Bible...
Because jeffrey dahmer was only evil while he was killing and eating people. And that was hardly any of the time. Aside from that he was a charming young man.
Anyway he said the bible, not the entire bible. The Pentateuch is in the bible. It's the action-packed beginning.
The "Bible" implies the entire thing... not just a certain chapter or group of books.
But it's
in the bible. Therefore the adjective 'brutal' applies just as much as 'wise', 'peaceful', whatever else you want. Or do the nasty bits not count?
Is cutting off a guys ear brutal? How about tying a whip and chasing people off for selling birds.
Man up sissies.
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Mon Oct 01, 2007 4:47 pmby freezie
2 guys were living peacefully on a plain under the sun. One day, one of them killed the other with a bloody nailed stick, finishing him off by bitting him with a snake. He also placed caterpillars in his wounds.
I'll say that was brutal, even if the first part was peaceful. Makes sense? yes it does.
And I'll gather wood on sunday anytime......Cause if I ever have to gather wood, it's for an emergency anyway.
Re: The Bible is Brutal
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Mon Oct 01, 2007 4:47 pmby joecoolfrog
Nephilim wrote:Minister Masket wrote:Even if you don't believe, the Bible makes a rather intriging read.
A few months ago I picked up my copy and flicked to a chapter which I have no hope remembering now. In it, it describes a group of people finding a man picking up logs on a Sunday. As this classifies as work, he had to be punished. Which was - believe it or not - death. Who gave the verdict? God himself. I am not joking. Who knows? Maybe the guy was collecting wood to build a fire for his cold family. Seems harsh, yes?
Any regular readers who know the chapter name and verse number for this little story?
that would be a really funny story, since the sabbath isn't on, y'know, sunday....
Now we all know that the Biblical Sabbath was Saturday and that it was changed to Sunday (apparently to apease the still majority pagans) by Constantine and ever since has been the Christian day of worship. Given this why dont Fundamentalist Christians worship on Saturday as opposed to the arbituary day that has no biblical foundation. Im not asking this to be provocative,I am simply puzzled because it doesnt add up when you consider that large parts of the Old Testament are accepted without question.
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Mon Oct 01, 2007 4:47 pmby Arbustos
heavycola wrote:Arbustos wrote:heavycola wrote:Arbustos wrote:How about saying the Old Testament, especially the Pentateuch, is brutal, not the entire Bible...
Because jeffrey dahmer was only evil while he was killing and eating people. And that was hardly any of the time. Aside from that he was a charming young man.
Anyway he said the bible, not the entire bible. The Pentateuch is in the bible. It's the action-packed beginning.
The "Bible" implies the entire thing... not just a certain chapter or group of books.
But it's
in the bible. Therefore the adjective 'brutal' applies just as much as 'wise', 'peaceful', whatever else you want. Or do the nasty bits not count?
You're assuming I'd call the Bible peaceful, or even describe it with any adj. like that... I don't. It's just a book or collection of books in and of itself.
Parts of it are brutal or wise, but not as a whole.