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The Bible is Brutal

Postby Minister Masket on Mon Oct 01, 2007 1:51 pm

Even if you don't believe, the Bible makes a rather intriging read.
A few months ago I picked up my copy and flicked to a chapter which I have no hope remembering now. In it, it describes a group of people finding a man picking up logs on a Sunday. As this classifies as work, he had to be punished. Which was - believe it or not - death. Who gave the verdict? God himself. I am not joking. Who knows? Maybe the guy was collecting wood to build a fire for his cold family. Seems harsh, yes?
Any regular readers who know the chapter name and verse number for this little story?
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Postby diddle on Mon Oct 01, 2007 1:54 pm

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Postby unriggable on Mon Oct 01, 2007 1:54 pm

By that logic, most reverends are fucked. Their job takes place on sunday.
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Re: The Bible is Brutal

Postby diddle on Mon Oct 01, 2007 1:59 pm

Minister Masket wrote:Even if you don't believe, the Bible makes a rather intriging read.
A few months ago I picked up my copy and flicked to a chapter which I have no hope remembering now. In it, it describes a group of people finding a man picking up logs on a Sunday. As this classifies as work, he had to be punished. Which was - believe it or not - death. Who gave the verdict? God himself. I am not joking. Who knows? Maybe the guy was collecting wood to build a fire for his cold family. Seems harsh, yes?
Any regular readers who know the chapter name and verse number for this little story?


or maybe he was preparing a ceremony for all his satanist friends
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Postby Itrade on Mon Oct 01, 2007 2:06 pm

According to Leviticus, if you raped a girl you had to pay her father a dowry and get married to her and you could never divorce.

Also, irony: Moses, who was saved from a pharoah who was killing all male children to ensure docility in the slaves, ended up killing all the males of some tribe that he ambushed. This was in like chapter thirty-something of Deuteronomy or one of those books near the start. I'm very sure it was before Judges.
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Re: The Bible is Brutal

Postby Nephilim on Mon Oct 01, 2007 2:11 pm

Minister Masket wrote:Even if you don't believe, the Bible makes a rather intriging read.
A few months ago I picked up my copy and flicked to a chapter which I have no hope remembering now. In it, it describes a group of people finding a man picking up logs on a Sunday. As this classifies as work, he had to be punished. Which was - believe it or not - death. Who gave the verdict? God himself. I am not joking. Who knows? Maybe the guy was collecting wood to build a fire for his cold family. Seems harsh, yes?
Any regular readers who know the chapter name and verse number for this little story?


that would be a really funny story, since the sabbath isn't on, y'know, sunday....
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Re: The Bible is Brutal

Postby 2dimes on Mon Oct 01, 2007 2:47 pm

Nephilim wrote:that would be a really funny story, since the sabbath isn't on, y'know, sunday....

So would this link accurately discribe the correct night?

Any who it's this one I presume.

(New American Standard Bible)
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Copyright Ā© 1960, 1962, 1963, 1968, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1975, 1977, 1995 by The Lockman Foundation wrote:
Numbers 15:32-36

Sabbath-breaking Punished
32Now while the sons of Israel were in the wilderness, they found a man gathering wood on the sabbath day.

33Those who found him gathering wood brought him to Moses and Aaron and to all the congregation;

34and they put him in custody because it had not been declared what should be done to him.

35Then the LORD said to Moses, "The man shall surely be put to death; all the congregation shall stone him with stones outside the camp."

36So all the congregation brought him outside the camp and stoned him to death with stones, just as the LORD had commanded Moses.



Seems pretty fair to me, It's not like he wasn't warned.
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Postby Titanic on Mon Oct 01, 2007 3:31 pm

Bit harsh to kill someone who was collecting wood...
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Postby Anarkistsdream on Mon Oct 01, 2007 3:32 pm

Titanic wrote:Bit harsh to kill someone who was collecting wood...


No shit...

"Dear Lord, don't kill me.. I was fucking COLD!"
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Postby Arbustos on Mon Oct 01, 2007 3:33 pm

How about saying the Old Testament, especially the Pentateuch, is brutal, not the entire Bible...
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Postby Titanic on Mon Oct 01, 2007 3:36 pm

Anarkistsdream wrote:
Titanic wrote:Bit harsh to kill someone who was collecting wood...


No shit...

"Dear Lord, don't kill me.. I was fucking COLD!"


Lucky for the Jews he didn take the oil to keep his family warm
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Postby The1exile on Mon Oct 01, 2007 3:38 pm

They should have burned him at the stake. Death by stoning is so blunt.
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Postby Anarkistsdream on Mon Oct 01, 2007 3:44 pm

The1exile wrote:They should have burned him at the stake. Death by stoning is so blunt.


*rim shot*
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Postby legendkiller717 on Mon Oct 01, 2007 3:46 pm

The1exile wrote:They should have burned him at the stake. Death by stoning is so blunt.


cant believe i actully chuckled at that
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Postby 2dimes on Mon Oct 01, 2007 3:51 pm

So you are told, plainly to collect your wood for six days out of seven.

You must either be galacticly stupid or defiant to disobey that.

So either one is a pretty good reason to get voted out of the tribe. Use of rocks is a pretty good deterent for anyone thinking it's no biggy.
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Postby Anarkistsdream on Mon Oct 01, 2007 3:52 pm

2dimes wrote:So you are told, plainly to collect your wood for six days out of seven.

You must either be galacticly stupid or defiant to disobey that.

So either one is a pretty good reason to get voted out of the tribe. Use of rocks is a pretty good deterent for anyone thinking it's no biggy.


True dat...

Hell, if GOD spoke to me and told me to do something, I'd listen...

Fact is, God's never said jack shit to me.
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Postby 2dimes on Mon Oct 01, 2007 3:58 pm

The1exile wrote:They should have burned him at the stake.

He must not have gathered enough wood.
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Postby The1exile on Mon Oct 01, 2007 4:04 pm

Actually I thought the guy in charge thought he could keep the wood and save himself the trouble of getting it the next day.
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Postby heavycola on Mon Oct 01, 2007 4:17 pm

Arbustos wrote:How about saying the Old Testament, especially the Pentateuch, is brutal, not the entire Bible...


Because jeffrey dahmer was only evil while he was killing and eating people. And that was hardly any of the time. Aside from that he was a charming young man.

Anyway he said the bible, not the entire bible. The Pentateuch is in the bible. It's the action-packed beginning.
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Postby Arbustos on Mon Oct 01, 2007 4:20 pm

heavycola wrote:
Arbustos wrote:How about saying the Old Testament, especially the Pentateuch, is brutal, not the entire Bible...


Because jeffrey dahmer was only evil while he was killing and eating people. And that was hardly any of the time. Aside from that he was a charming young man.

Anyway he said the bible, not the entire bible. The Pentateuch is in the bible. It's the action-packed beginning.


The "Bible" implies the entire thing... not just a certain chapter or group of books.
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Postby heavycola on Mon Oct 01, 2007 4:33 pm

Arbustos wrote:
heavycola wrote:
Arbustos wrote:How about saying the Old Testament, especially the Pentateuch, is brutal, not the entire Bible...


Because jeffrey dahmer was only evil while he was killing and eating people. And that was hardly any of the time. Aside from that he was a charming young man.

Anyway he said the bible, not the entire bible. The Pentateuch is in the bible. It's the action-packed beginning.


The "Bible" implies the entire thing... not just a certain chapter or group of books.


But it's in the bible. Therefore the adjective 'brutal' applies just as much as 'wise', 'peaceful', whatever else you want. Or do the nasty bits not count?
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Postby 2dimes on Mon Oct 01, 2007 4:45 pm

heavycola wrote:
Arbustos wrote:
heavycola wrote:
Arbustos wrote:How about saying the Old Testament, especially the Pentateuch, is brutal, not the entire Bible...


Because jeffrey dahmer was only evil while he was killing and eating people. And that was hardly any of the time. Aside from that he was a charming young man.

Anyway he said the bible, not the entire bible. The Pentateuch is in the bible. It's the action-packed beginning.


The "Bible" implies the entire thing... not just a certain chapter or group of books.


But it's in the bible. Therefore the adjective 'brutal' applies just as much as 'wise', 'peaceful', whatever else you want. Or do the nasty bits not count?

Is cutting off a guys ear brutal? How about tying a whip and chasing people off for selling birds.

Man up sissies.
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Postby freezie on Mon Oct 01, 2007 4:47 pm

2 guys were living peacefully on a plain under the sun. One day, one of them killed the other with a bloody nailed stick, finishing him off by bitting him with a snake. He also placed caterpillars in his wounds.


I'll say that was brutal, even if the first part was peaceful. Makes sense? yes it does.

And I'll gather wood on sunday anytime......Cause if I ever have to gather wood, it's for an emergency anyway.
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Re: The Bible is Brutal

Postby joecoolfrog on Mon Oct 01, 2007 4:47 pm

Nephilim wrote:
Minister Masket wrote:Even if you don't believe, the Bible makes a rather intriging read.
A few months ago I picked up my copy and flicked to a chapter which I have no hope remembering now. In it, it describes a group of people finding a man picking up logs on a Sunday. As this classifies as work, he had to be punished. Which was - believe it or not - death. Who gave the verdict? God himself. I am not joking. Who knows? Maybe the guy was collecting wood to build a fire for his cold family. Seems harsh, yes?
Any regular readers who know the chapter name and verse number for this little story?


that would be a really funny story, since the sabbath isn't on, y'know, sunday....


Now we all know that the Biblical Sabbath was Saturday and that it was changed to Sunday (apparently to apease the still majority pagans) by Constantine and ever since has been the Christian day of worship. Given this why dont Fundamentalist Christians worship on Saturday as opposed to the arbituary day that has no biblical foundation. Im not asking this to be provocative,I am simply puzzled because it doesnt add up when you consider that large parts of the Old Testament are accepted without question.
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Postby Arbustos on Mon Oct 01, 2007 4:47 pm

heavycola wrote:
Arbustos wrote:
heavycola wrote:
Arbustos wrote:How about saying the Old Testament, especially the Pentateuch, is brutal, not the entire Bible...


Because jeffrey dahmer was only evil while he was killing and eating people. And that was hardly any of the time. Aside from that he was a charming young man.

Anyway he said the bible, not the entire bible. The Pentateuch is in the bible. It's the action-packed beginning.


The "Bible" implies the entire thing... not just a certain chapter or group of books.


But it's in the bible. Therefore the adjective 'brutal' applies just as much as 'wise', 'peaceful', whatever else you want. Or do the nasty bits not count?


You're assuming I'd call the Bible peaceful, or even describe it with any adj. like that... I don't. It's just a book or collection of books in and of itself. Parts of it are brutal or wise, but not as a whole.
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