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So there was Adam and Eve and they begat Cane and Abel ( 2 boys !!! )
and what happened next ?
Oh and who married Adam and Eve,surely the offspring were not illegitimate

Please don't start another thread bashing Christianity. Let people believe what they will.

Skittles! wrote:Please don't start another thread bashing Christianity. Let people believe what they will.

Im bashing nothing,I simply wish to further my education and would be grateful if those who voted factual could answer my 2 questions.

joecoolfrog wrote:So there was Adam and Eve and they begat Cane and Abel ( 2 boys !!! )
and what happened next ?
Oh and who married Adam and Eve,surely the offspring were not illegitimate

Adam and Eve had Cain, Abel and Seth. And as it is common in scripture to leave out the females in genealogy, they more than likely had daughters also.

God married them.

jay_a2j wrote:

joecoolfrog wrote:So there was Adam and Eve and they begat Cane and Abel ( 2 boys !!! )
and what happened next ?
Oh and who married Adam and Eve,surely the offspring were not illegitimate

Adam and Eve had Cain, Abel and Seth. And as it is common in scripture to leave out the females in genealogy, they more than likely had daughters also.

God married them.

So the line then continued as a result of incest - dear dear !

I say its all symbolism, in fact I believe in evolution, and to put it simply I think God is just energy, energy that spurred the evolution forward and created stars and such, and eventually there were many adams and eves coming out of evolution as the first humans.

I could go on about what I think the apple and snake mean if anyone's interested...

joecoolfrog wrote:

jay_a2j wrote:

joecoolfrog wrote:So there was Adam and Eve and they begat Cane and Abel ( 2 boys !!! )
and what happened next ?
Oh and who married Adam and Eve,surely the offspring were not illegitimate

Adam and Eve had Cain, Abel and Seth. And as it is common in scripture to leave out the females in genealogy, they more than likely had daughters also.

God married them.

So the line then continued as a result of incest - dear dear !

If they didn't..... you wouldn't be here.

jay_a2j wrote:

joecoolfrog wrote:

jay_a2j wrote:

joecoolfrog wrote:So there was Adam and Eve and they begat Cane and Abel ( 2 boys !!! )
and what happened next ?
Oh and who married Adam and Eve,surely the offspring were not illegitimate

Adam and Eve had Cain, Abel and Seth. And as it is common in scripture to leave out the females in genealogy, they more than likely had daughters also.

God married them.

So the line then continued as a result of incest - dear dear !

If they didn't..... you wouldn't be here.

But surely you,on another thread, have condemned incest as an absolute wrong . Is it not a sin and does the bible not condemn it,are we all descended from people that went to hell. Strange for God to have created such a bug in his program was it not. Unless of course the early scholars got it wrong and what we consider sin is in fact the way to go, there must be an awfull lot of miserable celibates stoking the fires right now

joecoolfrog wrote:

jay_a2j wrote:

joecoolfrog wrote:

jay_a2j wrote:

joecoolfrog wrote:So there was Adam and Eve and they begat Cane and Abel ( 2 boys !!! )
and what happened next ?
Oh and who married Adam and Eve,surely the offspring were not illegitimate

Adam and Eve had Cain, Abel and Seth. And as it is common in scripture to leave out the females in genealogy, they more than likely had daughters also.

God married them.

So the line then continued as a result of incest - dear dear !

If they didn't..... you wouldn't be here.

But surely you,on another thread, have condemned incest as an absolute wrong . Is it not a sin and does the bible not condemn it,are we all descended from people that went to hell. Strange for God to have created such a bug in his program was it not. Unless of course the early scholars got it wrong and what we consider sin is in fact the way to go, there must be an awfull lot of miserable celibates stoking the fires right now

You cant go wrong with pixies

joecoolfrog wrote:

jay_a2j wrote:

joecoolfrog wrote:

jay_a2j wrote:

joecoolfrog wrote:So there was Adam and Eve and they begat Cane and Abel ( 2 boys !!! )
and what happened next ?
Oh and who married Adam and Eve,surely the offspring were not illegitimate

Adam and Eve had Cain, Abel and Seth. And as it is common in scripture to leave out the females in genealogy, they more than likely had daughters also.

God married them.

So the line then continued as a result of incest - dear dear !

If they didn't..... you wouldn't be here.

But surely you,on another thread, have condemned incest as an absolute wrong . Is it not a sin and does the bible not condemn it,are we all descended from people that went to hell. Strange for God to have created such a bug in his program was it not. Unless of course the early scholars got it wrong and what we consider sin is in fact the way to go, there must be an awfull lot of miserable celibates stoking the fires right now

What makes you think Adam and Eve went to hell? In the beginning there had to be incest, or the population would die out. If sin caused one to go to hell, we would all be going, because all have sinned.

jay_a2j wrote:

joecoolfrog wrote:

jay_a2j wrote:

joecoolfrog wrote:

jay_a2j wrote:

joecoolfrog wrote:So there was Adam and Eve and they begat Cane and Abel ( 2 boys !!! )
and what happened next ?
Oh and who married Adam and Eve,surely the offspring were not illegitimate

Adam and Eve had Cain, Abel and Seth. And as it is common in scripture to leave out the females in genealogy, they more than likely had daughters also.

God married them.

So the line then continued as a result of incest - dear dear !

If they didn't..... you wouldn't be here.

But surely you,on another thread, have condemned incest as an absolute wrong . Is it not a sin and does the bible not condemn it,are we all descended from people that went to hell. Strange for God to have created such a bug in his program was it not. Unless of course the early scholars got it wrong and what we consider sin is in fact the way to go, there must be an awfull lot of miserable celibates stoking the fires right now

What makes you think Adam and Eve went to hell? In the beginning there had to be incest, or the population would die out. If sin caused one to go to hell, we would all be going, because all have sinned.

god could have thought of making about 1000 people to start off with, that way, it wouldn't have come to incest so quickly.

its not a literal story. its symbolic

firth4eva wrote:its not a literal story. its symbolic

if it's symbolic, then why did jesus die to save the earth from a sin that was supposed to be caused by adam and eve?

mr. incrediball wrote:

jay_a2j wrote:

joecoolfrog wrote:

jay_a2j wrote:

joecoolfrog wrote:

jay_a2j wrote:

joecoolfrog wrote:So there was Adam and Eve and they begat Cane and Abel ( 2 boys !!! )
and what happened next ?
Oh and who married Adam and Eve,surely the offspring were not illegitimate

Adam and Eve had Cain, Abel and Seth. And as it is common in scripture to leave out the females in genealogy, they more than likely had daughters also.

God married them.

So the line then continued as a result of incest - dear dear !

If they didn't..... you wouldn't be here.

But surely you,on another thread, have condemned incest as an absolute wrong . Is it not a sin and does the bible not condemn it,are we all descended from people that went to hell. Strange for God to have created such a bug in his program was it not. Unless of course the early scholars got it wrong and what we consider sin is in fact the way to go, there must be an awfull lot of miserable celibates stoking the fires right now

What makes you think Adam and Eve went to hell? In the beginning there had to be incest, or the population would die out. If sin caused one to go to hell, we would all be going, because all have sinned.

god could have thought of making about 1000 people to start off with, that way, it wouldn't have come to incest so quickly.

Even Eve cam from Adam (his rib). We are all related. Bro....


And I most certainly believe Adam and Eve to be literal.

mr. incrediball wrote:

firth4eva wrote:its not a literal story. its symbolic

if it's symbolic, then why did jesus die to save the earth from a sin that was supposed to be caused by adam and eve?

because that sin wasn't caused by adam and eve it was caused by those 1000 real people that you mentioned


IMO

I've never taken it as a Symbolic thing, but that is very interesting.

most of the religious arguments come from people believing their holy book to be literal

firth4eva wrote:most of the religious arguments come from people believing their holy book to be literal

not anymore

static_ice wrote:

firth4eva wrote:most of the religious arguments come from people believing their holy book to be literal

not anymore

ill take that as a compliment


errrrr... face is up here mate

firth4eva wrote:

static_ice wrote:

firth4eva wrote:most of the religious arguments come from people believing their holy book to be literal

not anymore

ill take that as a compliment


errrrr... face is up here mate

it wasn't meant as a compliment but you can take it however you like

I think that even when it was first written it was probably symbolic, certainly the majority of theologians take this view. The literal view would be amusing if the implications of Fundamentalist belief were not so alarming in both East and West.

Personally, I don't Adam and Eve it myself.

Stopper wrote:Personally, I don't Adam and Eve it myself.

Skittles! wrote:Please don't start another thread bashing Christianity. Let people believe what they will.

this is bashing judaism as much if not more than christianity is it not?

I belive as a christian that adam and eve is more of a story or tale...almost like a lesson.