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Someone help me with this math problem...

PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 4:50 pm
by GreecePwns
I need to know this by tommorrow (my teacher was absolutely no help at all, which means no one in my class knows). Here's an example:

Factor completely

(9x^[2y+2]) - (27x^2y)

Winner gets...i don't know...a cookie or something. Maybe a 1v1 when I get a free space.

PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 4:52 pm
by Norse
Bracket it more clearly...

PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 4:53 pm
by Dancing Mustard
7.5

Easy, now give me a biscuit for being a genius.

PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 4:55 pm
by wicked
is 2K = 2000 or is K another variable?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 4:55 pm
by GreecePwns
wicked wrote:is 2K = 2000 or is K another variable?
another variable

Re: Someone help me with this math problem...

PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 4:55 pm
by Norse
GreecePwns wrote:I need to know this by tommorrow (my teacher was absolutely no help at all, which means no one in my class knows). Here's an example:

Factor completely

(9x^2k+2) - (27x^2k)

Winner gets...i don't know...a cookie or something. Maybe a 1v1 when I get a free space.


dude, bracket the powers more clearly...is it 9x to the power of 2k+2..or 9x to the power of 2 multiplied by k+2?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 4:56 pm
by 0ojakeo0
what grade are you in?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 4:56 pm
by wicked
Well all I could do with it is ...

x^2k = 1/9

assuming it's really (9x^2k)+2 - 27x^2k ???


But I don't really remember what "factor completely" means. :lol:

PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 4:57 pm
by GreecePwns
0ojakeo0 wrote:what grade are you in?
In American terms, 10th.

PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 4:58 pm
by Norse
wicked wrote:Well all I could do with it is ...

x^2k = 1/9


But I don't really remember what "factor completely" means. :lol:


factorise

PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 4:58 pm
by 0ojakeo0
GreecePwns wrote:
0ojakeo0 wrote:what grade are you in?
In American terms, 10th.


Ok dont got to worry for two more years. :)

PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 4:59 pm
by Norse
you done logrythyms yet?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 4:59 pm
by GreecePwns
0ojakeo0 wrote:
GreecePwns wrote:
0ojakeo0 wrote:what grade are you in?
In American terms, 10th.
Ok dont got to worry for two more years. :)
But it's Honors level work so, i guess you can say 11th or 10 1/2th

PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 4:59 pm
by GreecePwns
Norse wrote:you done logrythyms yet?
nope.

PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 5:00 pm
by Norse
hehe, well I hope you're a fast learner... :lol:

PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 5:01 pm
by GreecePwns
Norse wrote:hehe, well I hope you're a fast learner... :lol:
somewhat...but the point is i could've done it if the +2 in the first term's exponent using GCF.

PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 5:02 pm
by 0ojakeo0
GreecePwns wrote:
0ojakeo0 wrote:
GreecePwns wrote:
0ojakeo0 wrote:what grade are you in?
In American terms, 10th.
Ok dont got to worry for two more years. :)
But it's Honors level work so, i guess you can say 11th or 10 1/2th


Ill probaly be in honors though...

Re: Someone help me with this math problem...

PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 5:02 pm
by nagerous
have you rationalised the denominator?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 5:04 pm
by Dancing Mustard
Have you calibrated the optimal value for the first variable? That ought to be your first step.

Re: Someone help me with this math problem...

PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 5:04 pm
by GreecePwns
nagerous wrote:have you rationalised the denominator?
:-s There's no denominator?

Have you calibrated the optimal value for the first variable? That ought to be your first step.


:-s

Re: Someone help me with this math problem...

PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 5:12 pm
by bob3603
GreecePwns wrote:I need to know this by tommorrow (my teacher was absolutely no help at all, which means no one in my class knows). Here's an example:

Factor completely

(9x^[2y+2]) - (27x^2y)

Winner gets...i don't know...a cookie or something. Maybe a 1v1 when I get a free space.


9x^(2y)*(x-sqrt(3))(x+sqrt(3))

PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 5:14 pm
by Norse
9X Log (2y + 2) = 27X Log (2y)

1/3 log(2y + 2) = Log (2y)

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Re: Someone help me with this math problem...

PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 5:18 pm
by Titanic
GreecePwns wrote:I need to know this by tommorrow (my teacher was absolutely no help at all, which means no one in my class knows). Here's an example:

Factor completely

(9x^[2y+2]) - (27x^2y)

Winner gets...i don't know...a cookie or something. Maybe a 1v1 when I get a free space.


Damn thats easy.

9x^2y(x^2-3x)

Remember, when you times polynomials you times the base, and add teh powers.

9x^2y times x^2 = 9x^(2y+2)

9x^2y times -3x = -(27x^2y) [Remember, -3x is actually -3x^1]

Additional: You can write (9x^2y)(x^2-3x) if you want, but thats unnecessary because the first bracket is all 1 product.

Re: Someone help me with this math problem...

PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 5:20 pm
by GreecePwns
Titanic wrote:
GreecePwns wrote:I need to know this by tommorrow (my teacher was absolutely no help at all, which means no one in my class knows). Here's an example:

Factor completely

(9x^[2y+2]) - (27x^2y)

Winner gets...i don't know...a cookie or something. Maybe a 1v1 when I get a free space.


Damn thats easy.

9x^2y(x^2-3x)

Remember, when you times polynomials you times the base, and add teh powers.

9x^2y times x^2 = 9x^(2y+2)

9x^2y times -3x = -(27x^2y) [Remember, -3x is actually -3x^1]
You're subtracting them, not multiplying.

Re: Someone help me with this math problem...

PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 5:23 pm
by Titanic
GreecePwns wrote:
Titanic wrote:
GreecePwns wrote:I need to know this by tommorrow (my teacher was absolutely no help at all, which means no one in my class knows). Here's an example:

Factor completely

(9x^[2y+2]) - (27x^2y)

Winner gets...i don't know...a cookie or something. Maybe a 1v1 when I get a free space.


Damn thats easy.

9x^2y(x^2-3x)

Remember, when you times polynomials you times the base, and add teh powers.

9x^2y times x^2 = 9x^(2y+2)

9x^2y times -3x = -(27x^2y) [Remember, -3x is actually -3x^1]
You're subtracting them, not multiplying.


No I'm not. When expanding the bracket, you do not subtract first. You times the first product by the outside product, and then you times the second product (with the negative sign) by the outside product.

Its impossible to simplify a subtraction which involves polynomials of different powers.