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Postby Carebian Knight on Sat Sep 15, 2007 3:15 pm

There have been alot of topics about governments and what's wrong with them. So I'm going to ask: What's your idea of a perfect government? Please take this seriously and don't put something stupid or impossible in today's world. Meaning don't say the perfect government would be the one where everyone gathered together to vote on every law, because unless you have less than 1000 people that's just not going to happen.
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Postby OnlyAmbrose on Sat Sep 15, 2007 3:19 pm

Governments are composed of people, and since people are imperfect, so then must be government. There is no perfect government, and which form is better than another largely depends on your values.

Wasn't it Winston Churchill who said something along the lines of, Democracy sucks, it just sucks less than everything else?
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Postby The1exile on Sat Sep 15, 2007 3:20 pm

Benevolent tyranny.
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Postby The1exile on Sat Sep 15, 2007 3:21 pm

OnlyAmbrose wrote:Wasn't it Winston Churchill who said something along the lines of, Democracy sucks, it just sucks less than everything else?


I think the quote was "Democracy is the worst form of government apart from anything else that has been tried".
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Postby Gold Knight on Sat Sep 15, 2007 3:22 pm

There is no perfect government...

"You can please some of the people some of the time, but you cant please all of the people all of the time." - Someone...
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Postby d.gishman on Sat Sep 15, 2007 3:22 pm

The1exile wrote:Benevolent tyranny.


that's an oxymoron. i think you're going for benevolent dictatorship or enlightened despotism
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Postby Carebian Knight on Sat Sep 15, 2007 3:25 pm

I choose a bad name, what i mean is the best government you know of. Like maybe you enjoy different ideas from different countries and you think if they were put together they would be the best government so far.
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Postby The1exile on Sat Sep 15, 2007 3:26 pm

d.gishman wrote:
The1exile wrote:Benevolent tyranny.


that's an oxymoron. i think you're going for benevolent dictatorship or enlightened despotism


benevolent dictatorship, if you like, but still one guy or a small group of advisers who attempt to make the right decisions and the rest of the people get on with their lives without paying any attention to politics beyond the satirists.
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Postby magneticgoop on Sat Sep 15, 2007 3:26 pm

government controlled anarchy with capitalist communism as a economic foundational pricipal
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Postby Guiscard on Sat Sep 15, 2007 3:29 pm

I think some of the Scandinavian countries, Sweden for example.

High electoral turnout and enthusiastic involvement in politics, commitment to a workable welfare state supported by fair but adequate taxation (i.e. not necessarily less tax = better)... They're government seems to be really working to reduce their fossil fuel and nuclear consumption ( I think they're on course to phase out their dependence on foreign oil in 15 years)... Foreign policy wise they have a strong defence force but keep to a policy of non-alignment whilst supporting the EU and the UN. The only thing I disagree markedly with is conscription.

A healthy balance between socialism and a market economy, although in a perfect world my emphasis would be on the socialism.
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Postby fireedud on Sat Sep 15, 2007 3:30 pm

screw governments, can't we manage ourselves?

That's my opinion. We can take care of ourselves.
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Postby misterman10 on Sat Sep 15, 2007 3:31 pm

fireedud wrote:screw governments, can't we manage ourselves?

That's my opinion. We can take care of ourselves.

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Postby muy_thaiguy on Sat Sep 15, 2007 3:34 pm

Republican form of Government, similar to Democracy, but people vote to have representatives of their area (like the US has). It worked for Rome for Centuries, and worked for the US.
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Postby Norse on Sat Sep 15, 2007 3:36 pm

Guiscard wrote:...although in a perfect world my emphasis would be on the socialism.


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Postby Norse on Sat Sep 15, 2007 3:38 pm

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Postby muy_thaiguy on Sat Sep 15, 2007 3:38 pm

Norse wrote:
Guiscard wrote:...although in a perfect world my emphasis would be on the socialism.


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:lol: Have one of the Conservative mind Norse?
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Postby jnd94 on Sat Sep 15, 2007 3:39 pm

Best government is no government
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Postby Norse on Sat Sep 15, 2007 3:40 pm

muy_thaiguy wrote:
Norse wrote:
Guiscard wrote:...although in a perfect world my emphasis would be on the socialism.


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:lol: Have one of the Conservative mind Norse?


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Postby muy_thaiguy on Sat Sep 15, 2007 3:42 pm

Norse wrote:
muy_thaiguy wrote:
Norse wrote:
Guiscard wrote:...although in a perfect world my emphasis would be on the socialism.


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:lol: Have one of the Conservative mind Norse?


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Postby comic boy on Sat Sep 15, 2007 3:45 pm

Providing a Government is Democratic and Secular then it is likely to be as good as we will ever get.
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Postby Syzygy on Sat Sep 15, 2007 4:40 pm

What about plain old nomadic tribalism?
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Re: Perfect Government

Postby NESconqueror on Sat Sep 15, 2007 4:47 pm

Carebian Knight wrote:There have been alot of topics about governments and what's wrong with them. So I'm going to ask: What's your idea of a perfect government? Please take this seriously and don't put something stupid or impossible in today's world. Meaning don't say the perfect government would be the one where everyone gathered together to vote on every law, because unless you have less than 1000 people that's just not going to happen.

Ok... I will make it so that Nintendo is the ONLY gaming corporation that advanced. They have been here since 1985 (Time check) and made it to TODAY. :)
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Postby Norse on Sat Sep 15, 2007 4:50 pm

Syzygy wrote:What about plain old nomadic tribalism?


That is truely what I would like.

I was born in the wrong age...I wish I was born during the dark-ages....walking around europe, getting pissed.
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Postby ignotus on Sat Sep 15, 2007 4:52 pm

Communism in theory, capitalism in practice! :idea:
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Postby Syzygy on Sat Sep 15, 2007 5:06 pm

Norse wrote:
Syzygy wrote:What about plain old nomadic tribalism?


That is truely what I would like.

I was born in the wrong age...I wish I was born during the dark-ages....walking around europe, getting pissed.

The best thing would be the simplicity of it all and the lack of political B.S.
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