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I'm just wondering, because I'm myself from Russia and I noticed that Americans have a very blurred (by propaganda) view of Russia.

A very large country, some people want to restore the Tsar-ship (I think that's how you phrase it), large population of Russian Orthodox, some people want a return to the Stalin days (not positive on that one), one side of the mountains, you have European people, other side, Asian (looks that is), former heart and soul of the USSR.

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My view- A large country with some tension between it and the U.S. It has a failing democracy.

I don't know much about Russia, I'm not even sure all that is right.

Doctor Zhivago was a good story. Besides that I really thought this guy was pretty cool...

Well..what with being born in Russia, I know quite a lot!

Well it seems to be so afraid of slipping back into the chaos of the yeltsin years that they yearn for the growth and security that Putin's regime has provided at the expense of civil liberties (although the U.S. is guilty of this two after 9/11 though not to the same extent as Russia). Corrpution seems endemic (Gazprom anyone...). Ex-KGB seem to have both a monopoly on political and economic power. Their reach seems expansive with their murder of a British citizen Alexander Litvinenko.

Of course a lot of these fears stem from the fact that Russia is once again able to throw its weight around in the world due to its large natural resources and their growing power in the natural gas market which Europe is especially dependent on. Russia has officially stated it would like to create an OPEC for natural gas. Russia and Iran produce 50% of the world's output compared to OPEC's 33% production of the world's oil.

The country seems to be slipping into an ultranationalist mood as evident by when estonia moved a Soviet War memorial they recieved condemnation, large scale protests, and a full out cyber assault on the government of Estonia from Russian computers.

Russia is not the same enemy of 20 years ago because the fight is no longer over ideology but simply of economic power. Also there constant test runs of bombers towards British airspace is keeping the world on edge, which they have just resumed for the first time since the cold war.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article2302783.ece

Yer, Russian politics and nationlism is going bad again, which isn good.

Now I have a question for you, is it true about the governments recent involvement in the information district of your country, that they must portray 50% of there news being positive information about the state and the U.S. to be portrayed as a enemy in any report concerning conflicting interests ?

Avron wrote:Now I have a question for you, is it true about the governments recent involvement in the information district of your country, that they must portray 50% of there news being positive information about the state and the U.S. to be portrayed as a enemy in any report concerning conflicting interests ?

No, our free press is owned by many different politicians, there is no way they would all agree on anything.

I heard it was an order, not an agreement.

Avron wrote:I heard it was an order, not an agreement.

You heard wrong.

brrrrr

Cronus wrote:Well it seems to be so afraid of slipping back into the chaos of the yeltsin years that they yearn for the growth and security that Putin's regime has provided at the expense of civil liberties (although the U.S. is guilty of this two after 9/11 though not to the same extent as Russia). Corrpution seems endemic (Gazprom anyone...). Ex-KGB seem to have both a monopoly on political and economic power. Their reach seems expansive with their murder of a British citizen Alexander Litvinenko.

Of course a lot of these fears stem from the fact that Russia is once again able to throw its weight around in the world due to its large natural resources and their growing power in the natural gas market which Europe is especially dependent on. Russia has officially stated it would like to create an OPEC for natural gas. Russia and Iran produce 50% of the world's output compared to OPEC's 33% production of the world's oil.

The country seems to be slipping into an ultranationalist mood as evident by when estonia moved a Soviet War memorial they recieved condemnation, large scale protests, and a full out cyber assault on the government of Estonia from Russian computers.

Russia is not the same enemy of 20 years ago because the fight is no longer over ideology but simply of economic power. Also there constant test runs of bombers towards British airspace is keeping the world on edge, which they have just resumed for the first time since the cold war.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article2302783.ece

That article is shit, the cold war was about economic power too and why does it say Russia's still the US's enemy? The authors just trying to get more people to read her other stuff (how do I know its a woman? Because women do retarded shit like this all the time, they're totally unprofessional in everything they do).

And Murdering someone doesn't give you an 'expansive reach', more bullshit on the side of the author. Everything else is pretty common knowledge, so f*ck that stupid bitch and her menopause driven article.

big, colder than canada, ex-communist country, one of the sides in the cold war, hot woman (for a cold country ^_^), a major world power, almost rivals the US in terms of economic and military power, lots of snow, contains siberia, a part of Europe and Asia. thats about it, oh and was part of the allies in WWII.

though russia is starting to raise concerns again with the whole continental ballistic shield being set up by the americans which really angered the russians.

jako wrote:big, colder than canada, ex-communist country, one of the sides in the cold war, hot woman (for a cold country ^_^), a major world power, almost rivals the US in terms of economic and military power, lots of snow, contains siberia, a part of Europe and Asia. thats about it, oh and was part of the allies in WWII.

though russia is starting to raise concerns again with the whole continental ballistic shield being set up by the americans which really angered the russians.

About the hot woman part, its a really patriarchal society, the men treat the women like shit and the women are supposed to be slutty and dress up real good. The woman are hot because their society forces them to be.

And Russia wasn't on the side of the Allies, it just happened that they were all fighting the same enemy.

Also it doesn't rival the US.

Russia = big, backward, assinations, unstable even after fall of Communism, don't trust the government, wouldn't go there unless absolutely had to

cawck mongler wrote:

jako wrote:big, colder than canada, ex-communist country, one of the sides in the cold war, hot woman (for a cold country ^_^), a major world power, almost rivals the US in terms of economic and military power, lots of snow, contains siberia, a part of Europe and Asia. thats about it, oh and was part of the allies in WWII.

though russia is starting to raise concerns again with the whole continental ballistic shield being set up by the americans which really angered the russians.

About the hot woman part, its a really patriarchal society, the men treat the women like shit and the women are supposed to be slutty and dress up real good. The woman are hot because their society forces them to be.

And Russia wasn't on the side of the Allies, it just happened that they were all fighting the same enemy.

Also it doesn't rival the US.

Women in Russia are hot because they take care of them selfs (unlike in US) Bullshit about patriarchal society, we have as many women judges, politicians, doctors as US, if not more.

RobinJ wrote:Russia = big, backward, assinations, unstable even after fall of Communism, don't trust the government, wouldn't go there unless absolutely had to

RobinJ = brainwashed, probably since childhood, will never learn not to trust media. Not everything you see on TV is true, for example: super man was never real, and US weren't the first to enter Berlin in WW2.

They can sure drink! My family is part russian we some some major alcoholics in my family..enough said!

well from what i have learned from a russian born friend it is mostly peaceful. there are a lot of political tensions as the modern russia is only about 15 years old and has growing pains. it is still developing though from the soviet era to the more modern one. for the most part it is just a normal eastern block country

Не стреляйте я знаю тайны!

No, actually I've found the Russians I've met to be good people with a very strong work ethic. Big believers in education. Like most people there is a huge difference among them in attitudes and beliefs. I've found among Russians that they are very much surprised by and tolerant of my feeble attempts to speak their language. There was a lot of propaganda on both sides during the Cold War, but most Russians I've met are nice folks and I haven't seen much if any animosity toward Americans. It's almost like both nations have turned around on the grass roots level and said "Ok we're friends now. Whew! that's a relief."

CrazyAnglican wrote:Не стреляйте я знаю тайны!

No, actually I've found the Russians I've met to be good people with a very strong work ethic. Big believers in education. Like most people there is a huge difference among them in attitudes and beliefs. I've found among Russians that they are very much surprised by and tolerant of my feeble attempts to speak their language. There was a lot of propaganda on both sides during the Cold War, but most Russians I've met are nice folks and I haven't seen much if any animosity toward Americans. It's almost like both nations have turned around on the grass roots level and said "Ok we're friends now. Whew! that's a relief."

all their foreign exchange students or simply students who come to the U.S. to learn from Russia all seem to be mathematical geniuses based on the ones I have met.

Cronus wrote:

CrazyAnglican wrote:Не стреляйте я знаю тайны!

No, actually I've found the Russians I've met to be good people with a very strong work ethic. Big believers in education. Like most people there is a huge difference among them in attitudes and beliefs. I've found among Russians that they are very much surprised by and tolerant of my feeble attempts to speak their language. There was a lot of propaganda on both sides during the Cold War, but most Russians I've met are nice folks and I haven't seen much if any animosity toward Americans. It's almost like both nations have turned around on the grass roots level and said "Ok we're friends now. Whew! that's a relief."

all their foreign exchange students or simply students who come to the U.S. to learn from Russia all seem to be mathematical geniuses based on the ones I have met.

That's because only mathematical geniuses would go to Us on foreign student exchange