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I think they are made to be broken. Would appreciate any voting and/or opinion.

Honibaz

rule

*checks mind dictionary*

does not compute

Depends on if the law is fair or not. if the law forbade me to speak about a certain issue against the government (aka restriction of freedom of speech), i would feel strongly against obeying that law blindly. however, if it's a law against theft or murder, yeah everyone should follow that law.

I was not sure so I looked it up:


rule |ro?l| noun 1 one of a set of explicit or understood regulations or principles governing conduct within a particular activity or sphere : the rules of the game were understood. • a law or principle that operates within a particular sphere of knowledge, describing or prescribing what is possible or allowable : the rules of grammar. • a code of practice and discipline for a religious order or community : the Rule of St. Benedict. • control of or dominion over an area or people : the revolution brought an end to British rule. • ( the rule) the normal or customary state of things : such accidents are the exception rather than the rule. 2 a strip of wood or other rigid material used for measuring length or marking straight lines; a ruler. • a thin printed line or dash, generally used to separate headings, columns, or sections of text. 3 ( Rules) Austral. short for Australian Rules (football). • Law an order made by a judge or court with reference to a particular case only. verb 1 [ trans. ] exercise ultimate power or authority over (an area and its people) : Latin America today is ruled by elected politicians | [ intrans. ] the period in which Spain ruled over Portugal. • (of a feeling) have a powerful and restricting influence on (a person's life) : her whole life seemed to be ruled by fear. • [ intrans. ] be a dominant or powerful factor or force : [with complement ] the black market rules supreme. • [with clause ] pronounce authoritatively and legally to be the case : a federal court ruled that he was unfairly dismissed from his job. • Astrology (of a planet) have a particular influence over (a sign of the zodiac, house, aspect of life, etc.). 2 [ trans. ] make parallel lines across (paper) : [as adj. ] ( ruled) a sheet of ruled paper. • make (a straight line) on paper with a ruler. PHRASES as a rule usually, but not always. make it a rule to do something have as a habit or general principle to do something : I make it a rule never to mix business with pleasure. rule of law the restriction of the arbitrary exercise of power by subordinating it to well-defined and established laws. rule of thumb a broadly accurate guide or principle, based on experience or practice rather than theory. rule the roost be in complete control. PHRASAL VERBS rule something out (or in) exclude (or include) something as a possibility : the doctor ruled out appendicitis. DERIVATIVES ruleless adjective ORIGIN Middle English : from Old French reule (noun), reuler (verb), from late Latin regulare, from Latin regula ‘straight stick.’

Laws are there to be respected. But with every law you can be justified in breaking it.

For example, one could justify murder in self defence if there was absolutely no alternative other than to kill the assailant.

Other laws might be easier to justify breaking, eg the poll tax laws were rightly ignored by many as it was an injust tax. Likewise breaking the 1994 criminal justice act should, IMO, be not just justified but an absolute obligation of every free thinking member of society (provided it's not done without due respect being paid to anyone directly affected by it ... ie so it's not bothering anyone)

Honibaz wrote:I think they are made to be broken. Would appreciate any voting and/or opinion.

Honibaz

too many god damn rules.

we have to be fair. we can't own property. stopsigns. patriot act. national id cards.



the are just too many rules.

This post empirically proves that rules have to be followed all the time and with no deviations ever, and that if you do the penalty can justifiably be deat.

If they were not 100% binding and authoritative then I would have posted porn in this space here:





But it is against the rules, so I didn't.

The End. Fact.

Yes they are!

d.gishman wrote:Depends on if the law is fair or not. if the law forbade me to speak about a certain issue against the government (aka restriction of freedom of speech), i would feel strongly against obeying that law blindly. however, if it's a law against theft or murder, yeah everyone should follow that law.

For most people, this is a no-brainer. And for that infantile minority, no matter how you try, they'll never get it.

Like the "No multiple accounts" rule?

bw

No, laws and rules are not made to be broken. But That doesnt mean they wont be, or should be.

Blastshot wrote:No, laws and rules are not made to be broken. But That doesnt mean they wont be, or should be.

But you can't break a rule or law if it's not there.

Honibaz

Honibaz wrote:

Blastshot wrote:No, laws and rules are not made to be broken. But That doesnt mean they wont be, or should be.

But you can't break a rule or law if it's not there.

Honibaz

Well duh. Same could be said for a law-rule that is poorly, if indeed at all, enforced.

Honibaz wrote:

Blastshot wrote:No, laws and rules are not made to be broken. But That doesnt mean they wont be, or should be.

But you can't break a rule or law if it's not there.

Honibaz

well couldn't you equally say that the rule or law cant be obeyed if it doesn't exist?

Jehan wrote:

Honibaz wrote:

Blastshot wrote:No, laws and rules are not made to be broken. But That doesnt mean they wont be, or should be.

But you can't break a rule or law if it's not there.

Honibaz

well couldn't you equally say that the rule or law cant be obeyed if it doesn't exist?

Well yeah, I guess you're right.

Honibaz

so uhhh, is that it?

Jehan wrote:so uhhh, is that it?

It's not it yet, I was starting the topic because rules and laws does exist.

Honibaz

Surely there has to be a reason for the law. Laws with logic I'll follow, without, no.

Laws and rules are made to be respected, otherwise we would live in bloodbaths, thievery, racist, raping and so on..

Of course, some injustfied rules can be abolished..

AlgyTaylor wrote:Laws are there to be respected. But with every law you can be justified in breaking it.

For example, one could justify murder in self defence if there was absolutely no alternative other than to kill the assailant.

Other laws might be easier to justify breaking, eg the poll tax laws were rightly ignored by many as it was an injust tax. Likewise breaking the 1994 criminal justice act should, IMO, be not just justified but an absolute obligation of every free thinking member of society (provided it's not done without due respect being paid to anyone directly affected by it ... ie so it's not bothering anyone)

I agreed with two things in that act, the redefining of rape to include anal rape of men. Equal rights for all!
And the lowering of the age at which "homosexual acts" are legal. Except that they didn't lower it far enough. What's the big difference between heterosexual and homosexual teenagers and the things they like doing? Not much, just the gender of the partner.

Apart from that... I wouldn't mind an outdoors party with some repetitive beats, do you think I'll get arrested now?

There does seem to be big gap between

"I disagree with this law, so I'm going to work to change it, and that includes civil disobedience"

and

"This law is stupid, so I'm ignoring it"
or
"I break laws because thats what they're there for."

MR. Nate wrote:There does seem to be big gap between

"I disagree with this law, so I'm going to work to change it, and that includes civil disobedience"

and

"This law is stupid, so I'm ignoring it"
or
"I break laws because thats what they're there for."

QFT