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saxitoxin wrote:Matt Taibbi has just exposed that the Hamilton 68 dashboard, which was used to support thousands of mainstream media stories over the last five years accusing Russia of pushing disinformation in the West, was totally made-up by U.S. state security affiliates for the purpose of delegitimizing any populist political candidate that doesn't support America's global wars.

https://twitter.com/lhfang/status/1619401307433095168

Actors loosely connected to the Clintons and Bushes used Hamilton 68 to advance the business of big business and stoke fearmongering among the doe-eyed public about candidates like Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump who called for non-interventionist foreign policy.

Everyone who screamed, and still screams, "Russia" in response to any criticism of the Western War Machine was merely a useful idiot for state security and their manhandlers at Walmart and Boeing.

Despite the fact it's now been exposed, the operation was a success. The public -- including numerous Conquer Club users -- are now primed to see a Russian behind every lamp post and affirm the most wild and insane stories of collaboration.

What neither Twitter nor Taibbi – nor most of the pundits or media outlets – note is the specific disclaimers Berger established at the end of the methodology guide.

Not all content in this network is “created” by Russia. A significant amount—probably a majority—of content is created by third parties and then amplified by the network because it is relevant to Russian messaging themes.
Not all content amplified by this network is pro-Russian. The network frequently mobilizes to criticize or attack individuals or news reports that it wishes to discredit.
Because of the two points above, we emphasize it is NOT CORRECT to describe sites linked by this network as Russian propaganda sites. We are not claiming that content producers linked by this network are Russian propaganda sites. Rather, content linked by this network is RELEVANT to Russian messaging themes.”
While, yes, Hamilton 68 was an imperfect tool, cited by imperfect, error-prone humans that seemed to have not done their research; calling it McCarthyism or fraudulent seems hyperbolic on Taibbi’s part.

jimboston wrote:

saxitoxin wrote:Matt Taibbi has just exposed that the Hamilton 68 dashboard, which was used to support thousands of mainstream media stories over the last five years accusing Russia of pushing disinformation in the West, was totally made-up by U.S. state security affiliates for the purpose of delegitimizing any populist political candidate that doesn't support America's global wars.

https://twitter.com/lhfang/status/1619401307433095168

Actors loosely connected to the Clintons and Bushes used Hamilton 68 to advance the business of big business and stoke fearmongering among the doe-eyed public about candidates like Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump who called for non-interventionist foreign policy.

Everyone who screamed, and still screams, "Russia" in response to any criticism of the Western War Machine was merely a useful idiot for state security and their manhandlers at Walmart and Boeing.

Despite the fact it's now been exposed, the operation was a success. The public -- including numerous Conquer Club users -- are now primed to see a Russian behind every lamp post and affirm the most wild and insane stories of collaboration.

Says a guy who very likely could be a paid pro-Russian propagandist.

https://nbc16.com/news/nation-world/twi ... rolls-bots

What neither Twitter nor Taibbi – nor most of the pundits or media outlets – note is the specific disclaimers Berger established at the end of the methodology guide.

Not all content in this network is “created” by Russia. A significant amount—probably a majority—of content is created by third parties and then amplified by the network because it is relevant to Russian messaging themes.
Not all content amplified by this network is pro-Russian. The network frequently mobilizes to criticize or attack individuals or news reports that it wishes to discredit.
Because of the two points above, we emphasize it is NOT CORRECT to describe sites linked by this network as Russian propaganda sites. We are not claiming that content producers linked by this network are Russian propaganda sites. Rather, content linked by this network is RELEVANT to Russian messaging themes.”
While, yes, Hamilton 68 was an imperfect tool, cited by imperfect, error-prone humans that seemed to have not done their research; calling it McCarthyism or fraudulent seems hyperbolic on Taibbi’s part.

Summary…

Not every post that is pro-Maga and/or pro-Russian is a bot or a paid propagandist.

You only need a small number or bots or pro-Russian posters to “get the ball rolling”. Once started the psycho racist nutjobs on the extreme-Right take over and spread that false info organically. That DOES NOT mean that there aren’t bots and nefarious actors out there.

Use you brain!

… BTW crazy ideas spread from the extreme-Left nutjobs too. These can gain traction and spread in a similar way. The main difference is that these ideas are not coming from foreign sources. That IS a material difference.

saxitoxin wrote:Despite the fact it's now been exposed, the operation was a success. The public -- including numerous Conquer Club users -- are now primed to see a Russian behind every lamp post and affirm the most wild and insane stories of collaboration.

saxitoxin wrote:the response that proves the point

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saxitoxin wrote:Despite the fact it's now been exposed, the operation was a success. The public -- including numerous Conquer Club users -- are now primed to see a Russian behind every lamp post and affirm the most wild and insane stories of collaboration.

Sad: YouTuber MrBeast Spends Millions Curing Blind People When He Could've Sent Another Tank To Ukraine

YouTube personality MrBeast is being criticized after his latest YouTube video revealed he had spent millions to pay for surgeries to cure blindness in 1000 patients — money that could have been used to send more tanks and artillery to Ukraine.

"MrBeast's little stunt was an act of selfishness like nothing I've ever seen," said former Congressman and aspiring YouTuber Adam Kinzinger. "How could you waste money giving people the gift of sight when democracy itself is at stake in Ukraine? Priorities, people!"

Experts estimate that for the cost of 1000 eye surgeries, MrBeast could have purchased one M1 Abrams tank or dozens of Javelin missiles that would have killed countless Russians in battle or been sold on the black market to pay Zelensky's prostitution bill from his recent trip to D.C. "We need to protect our kids from YouTube stars like this," said Congressman Mitt Romney. "They teach kids the wrong priorities."

https://babylonbee.com/news/sad-mr-beas ... to-ukraine

saxitoxin wrote:

Sad: YouTuber MrBeast Spends Millions Curing Blind People When He Could've Sent Another Tank To Ukraine

YouTube personality MrBeast is being criticized after his latest YouTube video revealed he had spent millions to pay for surgeries to cure blindness in 1000 patients — money that could have been used to send more tanks and artillery to Ukraine.

"MrBeast's little stunt was an act of selfishness like nothing I've ever seen," said former Congressman and aspiring YouTuber Adam Kinzinger. "How could you waste money giving people the gift of sight when democracy itself is at stake in Ukraine? Priorities, people!"

Experts estimate that for the cost of 1000 eye surgeries, MrBeast could have purchased one M1 Abrams tank or dozens of Javelin missiles that would have killed countless Russians in battle or been sold on the black market to pay Zelensky's prostitution bill from his recent trip to D.C. "We need to protect our kids from YouTube stars like this," said Congressman Mitt Romney. "They teach kids the wrong priorities."

https://babylonbee.com/news/sad-mr-beas ... to-ukraine

jimboston wrote:

saxitoxin wrote:the response that proves the point

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saxitoxin wrote:Despite the fact it's now been exposed, the operation was a success. The public -- including numerous Conquer Club users -- are now primed to see a Russian behind every lamp post and affirm the most wild and insane stories of collaboration.

Oh, I’m sorry.

I didn’t know Mainstream Media forced Russia to invade Ukraine.

Thanks for clarifying this.

saxitoxin wrote:

Sad: YouTuber MrBeast Spends Millions Curing Blind People When He Could've Sent Another Tank To Ukraine

YouTube personality MrBeast is being criticized after his latest YouTube video revealed he had spent millions to pay for surgeries to cure blindness in 1000 patients — money that could have been used to send more tanks and artillery to Ukraine.

"MrBeast's little stunt was an act of selfishness like nothing I've ever seen," said former Congressman and aspiring YouTuber Adam Kinzinger. "How could you waste money giving people the gift of sight when democracy itself is at stake in Ukraine? Priorities, people!"

Experts estimate that for the cost of 1000 eye surgeries, MrBeast could have purchased one M1 Abrams tank or dozens of Javelin missiles that would have killed countless Russians in battle or been sold on the black market to pay Zelensky's prostitution bill from his recent trip to D.C. "We need to protect our kids from YouTube stars like this," said Congressman Mitt Romney. "They teach kids the wrong priorities."

https://babylonbee.com/news/sad-mr-beas ... to-ukraine

saxitoxin wrote:Great news! Matt Gaetz is pledging not to vote Ilhan Omar off the Foreign Affairs Committee, a move previously vowed by so-called "mainstream" Republicans (read: NATO simps) and not very protested by so-called "mainstream" Democrats (read: NATO simps).

The wonderful Rep. Omar has been a voice of sanity against Western Warmongering and is also an ally in the fight against Israel. It's great to see the Left and Right unite to DP the NATO whores in the center into oblivion.

Gaetz pledged, at the same time, to press forward with the removal of Adam Schiff from the committee due to his perpetration of the previously described Russian hoax and his poisonous, toxic, McCarthyist adventure on the American people that has brainwashed people like Jim into becoming bloodthirsty NATO simps.

Omar thanked Gaetz today on Twitter:

https://twitter.com/IlhanMN/status/1620266653920673792

jusplay4fun wrote:

jimboston wrote:

saxitoxin wrote:the response that proves the point

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saxitoxin wrote:Despite the fact it's now been exposed, the operation was a success. The public -- including numerous Conquer Club users -- are now primed to see a Russian behind every lamp post and affirm the most wild and insane stories of collaboration.

Oh, I’m sorry.

I didn’t know Mainstream Media forced Russia to invade Ukraine.

Thanks for clarifying this.

I will give jimb +1 for his latest two posts on this topic.

jimboston wrote:

jusplay4fun wrote:

jimboston wrote:

saxitoxin wrote:the response that proves the point

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saxitoxin wrote:Despite the fact it's now been exposed, the operation was a success. The public -- including numerous Conquer Club users -- are now primed to see a Russian behind every lamp post and affirm the most wild and insane stories of collaboration.

Oh, I’m sorry.

I didn’t know Mainstream Media forced Russia to invade Ukraine.

Thanks for clarifying this.

I will give jimb +1 for his latest two posts on this topic.

Saxi… I sincerely apologize for disagreeing with you on this subject.

I can now see I was completely wrong, and I hope you accept this sincere apology for my lame
jokes and attempts at sarcasm

It was brought to my attention that I MUST be wrong because JP4 seems to agree with me.

Thank you in advance for accepting this apology Saxi.

jimboston wrote:

jusplay4fun wrote:

jimboston wrote:

saxitoxin wrote:the response that proves the point

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saxitoxin wrote:Despite the fact it's now been exposed, the operation was a success. The public -- including numerous Conquer Club users -- are now primed to see a Russian behind every lamp post and affirm the most wild and insane stories of collaboration.

Oh, I’m sorry.

I didn’t know Mainstream Media forced Russia to invade Ukraine.

Thanks for clarifying this.

I will give jimb +1 for his latest two posts on this topic.

Saxi… I sincerely apologize for disagreeing with you on this subject.

I can now see I was completely wrong, and I hope you accept this sincere apology for my lame
jokes and attempts at sarcasm

It was brought to my attention that I MUST be wrong because JP4 seems to agree with me.

Thank you in advance for accepting this apology Saxi.