America,Worth Saving???...

[ConfederateSS]

--------- 1) The Teachers Unions....In Illinois....This is Pre-Pandemic...2019 A.D. numbers,after the pandemic, they're worse....
---------------- Between 2012 A.D. and 2019 A.D. Teacher Unions in Illinois had 4 teacher strikes....4 pay raises....During the Pandemic the teacher's union was the one, wanting the schools kept closed...
---------------- In Illinois in 2019 A.D. students in 3rd grade...only 36% could read at a 3rd grade level...In one city, one group, only 2% could read at a 3rd grade level, only 1% could do 3rd grade math...4 strikes, 4 pay raises....FOR WHAT???...

----------------- 2) It is not just American Schools... Where have the street smarts gone...In America...???
----------------- In Las Vegas, Nevada...An Illegal Alien stab 8 women...6 hurt, 2 dead....The Border is open....Sure, Biden is to blame....For Most things like this...
----------------- Here is what happened...The Illegal Alien saw some show girls....He approached them...Saying ,"Hey come take a picture with me... Don't worry about this knife...I am a chef."....They went over to him, and he stabbed them...The Illegal Alien was arrested...A huge part of the blame is the girls fault...A man with a knife, you just walk over... ...
----------------- It is like in Alaska...There is a law, you get a ticket if you are caught taking selfies with a bear...Do we need laws , Don't take selfies with bears...Has America totally lost it???...... ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)...

[Dukasaur]

So let me get this right:

Some civil servants in Illinois do a shitty job.

In Las Vegas some psychopath committed some violent crimes, and unsuspecting girls out partying got hurt because they didn't really expect to run into a psychopath while having their girls' night out.

And this is evidence of the end of the country?

[bigtoughralf]

tbf throughout history empires that sexually liberalise tend to collapse fairly soon after, and these days the US has both feet firmly planted in the 'walk around naked' phase of moral decadence. Maybe Confed hasn't given the strongest overview but the end is coming for sure.

[mookiemcgee]

I'd like to circle back to the idea Saxi had in the other thread. Let more illegal immigrants in, they can teach. No unions, cheap labor, kids going to learn a second language FOR FREE, kids will learn 'street smarts'.

Sure occasionally an illegal alien might stab a girl or two... but this MAGA guy Stephen Paddock 5 years ago shot 413 people (mostly women) with the 30 guns he snuck into the hotel. It's pretty clear who the bigger danger is.

We are truly checking all the boxes here for Confed's issues, it's just a matter of accepting the solution is different that you though it would be.

[jusplay4fun]

tbf throughout history empires that sexually liberalise tend to collapse fairly soon after, and these days the US has both feet firmly planted in the 'walk around naked' phase of moral decadence. Maybe Confed hasn't given the strongest overview but the end is coming for sure.

saxi has been spotted walking around naked, but MOST of the rest of us are STILL fully clothed in public in the USA. Well , tbf, some women wear revealing outfits, but that is a different matter than being naked.

[jimboston]

tbf throughout history empires that sexually liberalise tend to collapse fairly soon after, and these days the US has both feet firmly planted in the 'walk around naked' phase of moral decadence. Maybe Confed hasn't given the strongest overview but the end is coming for sure.

define “the end”

define “fairly soon”… cite examples

[Maxleod]

tbf throughout history empires that sexually liberalise tend to collapse fairly soon after, and these days the US has both feet firmly planted in the 'walk around naked' phase of moral decadence. Maybe Confed hasn't given the strongest overview but the end is coming for sure.

define “the end”

define “fairly soon”… cite examples

Woodstock, before/after:

[saxitoxin]

tbf throughout history empires that sexually liberalise tend to collapse fairly soon after, and these days the US has both feet firmly planted in the 'walk around naked' phase of moral decadence. Maybe Confed hasn't given the strongest overview but the end is coming for sure.

saxi has been spotted walking around naked

who am i to deny the people what they want

[Dukasaur]

I'd like to circle back to the idea Saxi had in the other thread. Let more illegal immigrants in, they can teach. No unions, cheap labor, kids going to learn a second language FOR FREE, kids will learn 'street smarts'.

Sure occasionally an illegal alien might stab a girl or two... but this MAGA guy Stephen Paddock 5 years ago shot 413 people (mostly women) with the 30 guns he snuck into the hotel. It's pretty clear who the bigger danger is.

We are truly checking all the boxes here for Confed's issues, it's just a matter of accepting the solution is different that you though it would be.

+1

[ConfederateSS]

----------Yes, Duk....The Teacher's Union is to blame.....Instead of ,Math , Science, History, Reading....They are pushing .... Radicalism......It was bad enough in College since the 60's.....They went on to train the future teachers of the 70's,80's...etc.etc....Through all levels of Education...Here we are...
-------------- If a hitting coach was on a team hitting .020...Instead of say...2.40...That hitting coach would be fired...Not getting a pay raise...
-------------- So, would the Manager of the team....The President and General Manager...

------------- A girls night out.....That is when you should be most cautious of strangers...If Gordon Ramsey had a knife out on the strip in Vegas...I wouldn't go near him....So yes it is the girls fault for being street smart impaired....Why would anyone need to be walking around with a knife...Why and the Hell would you voluntary go near them...If some stranger told you, to hold a package at an airport, Would You?...HELL NO!!!!!!!!
-------------- Maybe the next time , like 5 years ago....When a crazy gunman lites up Vegas....They can just say, when walking around with a gun..... Don't worry , I am an Olympic Target Shooter.... Everything is O.K...
-------------- You have to be aware of your surroundings Duk...Know today people are crazy, more than ever...You have to be more careful, around people...MORE THAN EVER...
-------------- Walk down a street...You will see , not everyone, but most...Walking and looking down at their phone... Oblivious of their surroundings...Most stay inside on their gagets...So, when they do go out...They are not street smart prepared.....When we were growing up...We spent the days outside.... Didn't come in , until the street lights came on, sometime , not even then...We learned street smarts, by being outside... Something that has been lost... Through this new technology world... .... ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)...
------------- Not everyone lives in Canada.... Canada is Awesome...I will admit that...You can walk in peace along the Riverfront in Windsor... Growing up in Southwest Detroit...We had T-shirts....I am from Southwest Detroit, I vacation in Beirut...But we did learn street smarts, quickly...

[jusplay4fun]

I'd like to circle back to the idea Saxi had in the other thread. Let more illegal immigrants in, they can teach. No unions, cheap labor, kids going to learn a second language FOR FREE, kids will learn 'street smarts'.

Sure occasionally an illegal alien might stab a girl or two... but this MAGA guy Stephen Paddock 5 years ago shot 413 people (mostly women) with the 30 guns he snuck into the hotel. It's pretty clear who the bigger danger is.

We are truly checking all the boxes here for Confed's issues, it's just a matter of accepting the solution is different that you though it would be.

+1

really?

October 2, 2017 ·
Asked by reporters if Stephen Paddock had been agitated about politics, his brother replied: "No religious affiliation. No political affiliation. He just hung out."

https://www.facebook.com/nprpolitics/posts/asked-by-reporters-if-stephen-paddock-had-been-agitated-about-politics-his-broth/1970784129834223/

We looked at 19 shootings that have received significant national media coverage since the Columbine High School shooting in 1999. More than eight people were killed in each of the shootings.

We found very few cases in which the political affiliation of the shooter could be verified.

[url]https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2018/feb/23/larry-pittman/nc-republican-says-many-mass-shooters-turn-out-be-/
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Stephen Craig Paddock[5] (April 9, 1953 – October 1, 2017)[6] was an American mass murderer who perpetrated the 2017 Las Vegas shooting.[7][8][9][10] Paddock opened fire into a crowd of about 22,000 concertgoers attending a country music festival on the Las Vegas Strip, killing 60 people[a] and injuring approximately 867 (at least 413 of whom were wounded by gunfire).[11][12] As law enforcement swarmed his hotel room, Paddock died by suicide, shooting himself through the palate.[1][13] The incident is the deadliest mass shooting by a lone shooter in United States history. Paddock's motive remains officially undetermined,[14][15] and the possible factors are the subject of speculation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Paddock

meanwhile, one politically motivated killer:

In 2017, 66-year-old James Thomas Hodgkinson shot and injured six people at a congressional baseball game in Virginia — nearly killing House Majority Whip Steve Scalise. Hodgkinson volunteered for the presidential campaign of Democrat Bernie Sanders and apparently targeted the Republican team.

[url]https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2018/feb/23/larry-pittman/nc-republican-says-many-mass-shooters-turn-out-be-/
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[mookiemcgee]

That's what you take issue with here JP? The suggestion that a gun obsessed, anti government mass murderer might be 'right leaning' politically? I never suggested the killings were politically motived but he doesn't scream socialist who wants a big federal gov't to give taxes to poor people to me bud.


https://theintercept.com/2020/09/22/ste ... far-right/

Paddock “had an obsession with guns” and would become angry when challenged on the Second Amendment, according to Adam LeFevre, who dated the sister of Paddock’s partner. Paddock “made it very clear he would have no part of gun ownership restrictions,” said LeFevre, who got a glimpse of Paddock’s well-stocked gun room during a tour of his home, in another interview. Indeed, by the time of the attack, Paddock had amassed an arsenal of some 80 firearms, mostly assault-style rifles, in addition to stockpiling ammunition and some survivalist equipment — another glaring attribute of the far right.

“He was animated about the government and the tax system,” LeFevre told us in an email. “He was outspoken about the inadequacies and waste of the government.”Paddock’s ardent opposition to gun restrictions bled into his embrace of a number of the debunked conspiracy theories that have helped to fuel a rise in right-wing extremism in recent years, according to the statements collected by the Las Vegas police, as well as interviews with journalists.

The month before the shooting, one unnamed associate recounted to Las Vegas police detectives that Paddock tried to bribe him into selling a gun part used to convert a semiautomatic firearm into a fully automatic machine gun, demonstrating a total disregard for federal firearms laws. When the associate refused because he said it would be illegal, Paddock reportedly became enraged and made references to a litany of anti-government conspiracy theories, including supposed plans by the Federal Emergency Management Administration to set up “detention camps” of Americans and plans for widespread confiscation of firearms. Paddock believed that Hurricane Katrina in 2005 “was just a dry run for law enforcement and military to start kickin’ down doors and confiscating guns,” the associate said.

“He was kind of fanatical about this stuff,” the associate added, quoting Paddock as saying that “somebody has to wake up the American public and get them to arm themselves.”

Another witness interviewed in the investigation gave a similar account of Paddock’s fixation on anti-government conspiracy theories. A 27-year-old Las Vegas sex worker, who said she spent many hours drinking and gambling with Paddock, described him as “paranoid” and said that he would often rant about the American government’s orchestration of the Sept. 11 attacks.

[jusplay4fun]

So what is your point, Mookie? That one "nut" with a gun obsession, not fond of the Federal Government (and gun restrictions), went on a rampage and killed lots of people? Is that shocking? (That does not justify in any way the heinous nature of his reprehensible crimes.) He was apparently disconnected from most people and saw no empathy with those he shot and killed. He was CRAZY, a NUT, YES..! He was not a MAGA or Trump supporter, was he? Do we have evidence of that?

The NEWS is the Death count, the very high of dead, right?

And this NUT, Paddock, planned carefully to KILL MANY, MANY people and his high perch, weapons and ammo gave him an incredible sniper's nest to KILL many and injure many more.

And then an avowed LEFT wing nut kills Congress members and you and others ignore that? His connections to Bernie Sanders (the REAL one) is well proven and documented. His killings are NOT that news worthy because he did not kill ENOUGH and the Capital Police escort shot and stopped him? RIGHT? He did not plan well enough, did he? Was he too NUTS and not a good planner??

REALLY?

[jimboston]

Seems to me if he was shooting at a Country Music Festival he was more likely hitting Conservative leaning people.
No?

I don;t think he had a ‘target’ audience in mind.

[mookiemcgee]

So what is your point, Mookie? That one "nut" with a gun obsession, not fond of the Federal Government (and gun restrictions), went on a rampage and killed lots of people? Is that shocking? (That does not justify in any way the heinous nature of his reprehensible crimes.) He was apparently disconnected from most people and saw no empathy with those he shot and killed. He was CRAZY, a NUT, YES..! He was not a MAGA or Trump supporter, was he? Do we have evidence of that?

The NEWS is the Death count, the very high of dead, right?

And this NUT, Paddock, planned carefully to KILL MANY, MANY people and his high perch, weapons and ammo gave him an incredible sniper's nest to KILL many and injure many more.

And then an avowed LEFT wing nut kills Congress members and you and others ignore that? His connections to Bernie Sanders (the REAL one) is well proven and documented. His killings are NOT that news worthy because he did not kill ENOUGH and the Capital Police escort shot and stopped him? RIGHT? He did not plan well enough, did he? Was he too NUTS and not a good planner??

REALLY?

Let me circle back to my point for you...

I'd like to circle back to the idea Saxi had in the other thread. Let more illegal immigrants in, they can teach. No unions, cheap labor, kids going to learn a second language FOR FREE, kids will learn 'street smarts'.

Sure occasionally an illegal alien might stab a girl or two... but this MAGA guy Stephen Paddock 5 years ago shot 413 people (mostly women) with the 30 guns he snuck into the hotel. It's pretty clear who the bigger danger is.

We are truly checking all the boxes here for Confed's issues, it's just a matter of accepting the solution is different that you though it would be.


My point is illegal immigrants are less dangerous than gun toting americans, and allowing them into the country with special temporary work visas can help reduce the over-employent issues and bail the country out of the inflation problems created by Donald Trump policies and the FED's decade plus of inflating asset prices through QE.

You just seem offended that Stephen Paddock, america's deadliest mass murderer might have aligned with far right extremist belief systems, but I'm not sure you actually have a point you are trying to make. Maybe i missed it?

[mookiemcgee]

Seems to me if he was shooting at a Country Music Festival he was more likely hitting Conservative leaning people.
No?

I don;t think he had a ‘target’ audience in mind.

I never suggested the killings were politically motived

Little know fact (at least around here), you can kill people for non-political reasons and still have personal political leanings.

[jimboston]

Seems to me if he was shooting at a Country Music Festival he was more likely hitting Conservative leaning people.
No?

I don;t think he had a ‘target’ audience in mind.

I never suggested the killings were politically motived

Little know fact (at least around here), you can kill people for non-political reasons and still have personal political leanings.

I’m not disagreeing with you.

Just making and observation.

[jusplay4fun]

Seems to me if he was shooting at a Country Music Festival he was more likely hitting Conservative leaning people.
No?

I don;t think he had a ‘target’ audience in mind.

I never suggested the killings were politically motived

Little know fact (at least around here), you can kill people for non-political reasons and still have personal political leanings.

Then do not make it seem that that you do not think so:

Mookie said (above, same thread):

but this MAGA guy Stephen Paddock 5 years ago shot 413 people (mostly women) with the 30 guns he snuck into the hotel. It's pretty clear who the bigger danger is.

You are the ONE, Mookie, to interject a political angle by mentioning MAGA and trying to IMPLY that MAGA folks are a BIG(GER) Danger.

[mookiemcgee]

Seems to me if he was shooting at a Country Music Festival he was more likely hitting Conservative leaning people.
No?

I don;t think he had a ‘target’ audience in mind.

I never suggested the killings were politically motived

Little know fact (at least around here), you can kill people for non-political reasons and still have personal political leanings.

Then do not make it seem that that you do not think so:

Mookie said (above, same thread):

but this MAGA guy Stephen Paddock 5 years ago shot 413 people (mostly women) with the 30 guns he snuck into the hotel. It's pretty clear who the bigger danger is.

You are the ONE, Mookie, to interject a political angle by mentioning MAGA and trying to IMPLY that MAGA folks are a BIG(GER) Danger.

I am fully implying right wing extremists are a bigger danger to everyone in America's health than 'illegal' immigrants here to work.

Accusing me of interjecting politics into a Confed thread is laughable.

[jonesthecurl]

Well, I just registered to vote so the US has one more sane voice.

[GaryDenton]

Thank you. Too many toxic foolish people and sanity needs to make a comeback.

[mookiemcgee]

Well, I just registered to vote so the US has one more sane voice.

We just need to move you into a state where it can have more impact jonesy

[bigtoughralf]

Well, I just registered to vote so the US has one more sane voice.

We just need to move you into a state where it can have more impact jonesy

So, Switzerland?

[saxitoxin]

Just a warning: if the Democrats lose next month I'll be absolutely insufferable for 45-60 days.

[saxitoxin]

Thank you. Too many toxic foolish people and sanity needs to make a comeback.

... by electing a party led by a senile 81 year old who wants to start a nuclear war.