All Americans Will Be Amish

[saxitoxin]

on a long enough scale

And even if Amish population growth continued at current trends, it would still take them over 200 years more to make up 100% of American population, barring some non-Amish population collapse.

https://medium.com/migration-issues/how ... 68e3d0de87

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I'm ready. Shut off the power.

Oh sure I might miss a half dozen or so people here, but over all it will be a bonus.

[ConfederateSS]

---------------No,....All Americans (non-elites)....Will starve....The Globalist plan....
--------------- Like in Holland/Netherlands ....The Biden Administration is going after the Amish farmers...Unlike the Dutch farmers.....The Amish don't use gasoline or chemical fertilizer.....Their food is healthy, fresh....But the main thing is ..The Amish don't go by , follow the Biden agenda....They can't control the Amish, that scares the radical LEFT, so they are shutting down Amish farms....As if they were Al Capone run speakeasies during prohibition....
-------------- If you don't summit to your Global Elite rulers....They will come for you.... Amish, regular Americans who pay taxes... Churches, so on and so on....The main thing, is The Global Elites , want the masses , kept starving... Dependant on the Government hand outs...
-------------- If you want to make it...You have to move to South America...Walk back across the U.S./Mexican Border...Get all the free Bs...... ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)...

[jusplay4fun]

---------------No,....All Americans (non-elites)....Will starve....The Globalist plan....

The main point, that I do not agree with entirely, is for farmers to use little or no synthetic fertilizers. Did humans STARVE before artificial or synthetic fertilizers were invented? NO. The point, I think, is for the earth to be more sustainable, without these "chemical" and synthetic fertilizers. One main impact is less food, and then the main argument by Thomas Malthus, the "father" of the "Dismal Science" will be more likely achieved. Another impact is to utilize "natural fertilizers" but the issue of bad odors is then a consequence, among other problems. Please see below.

This is ConfedSS's (enough s-es there to trip over) fallacy in his thinking and his presentation: He takes a small snippet in the News and weaves a totally unlikely scenario. Hmmm, reminds me of someone else. He does not back up his narrative with facts, logic, or sources. Since he did not, neither will I support my summation here with any sources. Several find such information and affirmation too much to read and/or comprehend, anywayzzzzz.

--------------- Like in Holland/Netherlands ....The Biden Administration is going after the Amish farmers...Unlike the Dutch farmers.....The Amish don't use gasoline or chemical fertilizer.....Their food is healthy, fresh....But the main thing is ..The Amish don't go by , follow the Biden agenda....They can't control the Amish, that scares the radical LEFT, so they are shutting down Amish farms....As if they were Al Capone run speakeasies during prohibition....


I think I read where Mookie suggested ONLY ONE Amish farmer ran afoul of federal rules and regulations on selling or giving away large quantities of beef/meat that may cause illness. THAT IS NOT the conspiracy that the Federal Government (under Biden) is trying to shut down Amish farms. Again, TOO MUCH HYPERBOLE and it sounds SHRILL.

It is true that the Amish do not use modern technology, such as internal combustion engines. I think they allow use of phone for emergencies. BUT their communities are not the end-all, be-all, and the only way. At some age, late teens, I suppose, they give their young people a chance to decide: the Amish way or go live in the "larger" and non-Amish society. Their communities are capped at a certain number, so their model is not sustainable, UNLESS the rest of us are "gone." I understand too, that sometimes they break off and form new communities, but good arable land for their farming methods is not infinite and is actually very limited.

So, while ConfedSS seems to endorse the Amish way, it will not work for the entire country or the entire world. It will not work for the entire state of Pennsylvania either, where most live. I think that Virginia has a few such communities. I am sure we have Mennonites, but I do not know that much about them. They seem like the Amish and dress in a similar manner. I have seen them at tourist sites, such as Luray Caverns, in Virginia.

And I read that during the years of low rain, i.e., drought, that run off from Amish fields produced lots of negative environment impacts in the Chesapeake Bay. Too much manure made its way into nearby rivers and ultimately in the Chesapeake Bay, so their attempt to basically be "better" for the earth had the opposite effect during that time of drought.

The rest below is not worthy of a my comment, except to say that ConfedSS seems to be spinning a conspiracy theory that to me is quite nonsensical, illogical, and farfetched. And who are these Global Elites? Name them.


-------------- If you don't summit to your Global Elite rulers....They will come for you.... Amish, regular Americans who pay taxes... Churches, so on and so on....The main thing, is The Global Elites , want the masses , kept starving... Dependant on the Government hand outs...
-------------- If you want to make it...You have to move to South America...Walk back across the U.S./Mexican Border...Get all the free Bs...... ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)...

I found something else to contest: If I wanted to go to South America, I certainly would not walk there, unless ConfedSS is advocating that we stop using cars of any sort. If I were to use the Amish method, I think it smart to bring and ride horses there. And would people like the American Amish be welcomed in whatever country they try to settle? Would there be walls and hate and discrimination? I am asking for a friend.[/color]

[mookiemcgee]

Amish can use boats, not sure if they can have engines. I think it's ok as long as they aren't piloting the boats but not 100% on that.

[jusplay4fun]

Amish can use boats, not sure if they can have engines. I think it's ok as long as they aren't piloting the boats but not 100% on that.

I assume they will use sailboats that also have oars, LIKE the Vikings..

[jusplay4fun]

Here is an interesting source of info on the Amish:

https://www.pastchronicles.com/fast-gallery/fascinating-facts-about-the-amish-that-few-people-know/35/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=youtube.com&utm_campaign=CH_GE_PC_CA_All_AmishFacts_v1_0426&utm_term=136767822420&utm_content=feed&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI5MCNmfnv-QIVbEYeAh3ccAUWEAEYASAAEgK_SPD_BwE

saxi needs to warned that this is likely "click bait" and one of the linked sites is for Ukrainian women. I am not sure these beautiful women are his type, though.

Here is some info discussed earlier from this source:

33. Hygiene and environmental issues
The Amish have built a very sustainable lifestyle. However, scientists have observed that some of the waste produced by their efforts to grow their own crops and farm their own animals are causing environmental issues. For one, it seems their waste products end up in local rivers and streams.

Complaints about the Amish impact on the natural world have escalated to the point that the EPA (Environmental Protection Agency) has even stepped in. The agency has reportedly asked the Amish to change some of the ways they do things, but such requests have been mostly ignored.

also, same source:

24. Their numbers are growing
Contrary to popular belief, the Amish community is not small, isolated, or secluded. Their population can be traced back to the 1600s. Though they were originally present in Sweden, they have traveled across the globe, with most of them currently residing in the United States.

Despite being a traditional and conservative community, their population is continually growing. Currently, there are an estimated 400,000 Amish people residing in America, and their numbers are increasing by the year.

25. Health issues among the Amish
Though the Amish are healthy and have a relatively low risk of cancer compared to most of the world’s population, they are still not immune to health issues. Despite their good lifestyle and natural way of living, their population experiences health risks specific to their group.

The current population of the Amish can be traced to the original 100 people that belonged to their community. Essentially, their members have merged with each other. The result is the Founder Effect, which leads to genetic disorders. However, since the Amish do not regularly visit doctors, their problems are mostly undiagnosed.

[mookiemcgee]

Also... They love Siesta Key near Sarasota in Florida! Big community in the area.

[jonesthecurl]

The butter will be decent at least.

[bigtoughralf]

I never understood the whole 'no technology' thing. Like, what makes a phone technology but not the tools they use to build their houses?

[mookiemcgee]

I never understood the whole 'no technology' thing. Like, what makes a phone technology but not the tools they use to build their houses?

Its less about 'no technology' and more about 'will this new technology hurt the Amish way of life?'. There are also shades of grey, some are really conservative and shun almost all tech, other will use computers but 'no internet, no music, no video' just word and excel for business use. The Amish don't automatically embrace what's new, they evaluate it and decide if it's a good fit for the lives they want to lead.

[saxitoxin]

I never understood the whole 'no technology' thing.

GET OUT POM

[bigtoughralf]

The Amish don't automatically embrace what's new, they evaluate it and decide if it's a good fit for the lives they want to lead.

If only prolific Conquer Club poster saxitoxin was similarly thoughtful about new additions to his post history.

[Dukasaur]

I never understood the whole 'no technology' thing. Like, what makes a phone technology but not the tools they use to build their houses?

Its less about 'no technology' and more about 'will this new technology hurt the Amish way of life?'. There are also shades of grey, some are really conservative and shun almost all tech, other will use computers but 'no internet, no music, no video' just word and excel for business use. The Amish don't automatically embrace what's new, they evaluate it and decide if it's a good fit for the lives they want to lead.

Yeah, there's no specific ban on technology in their lives. The basic rule is to "live a simple life, uncomplicated by machines." Different groups (and even individuals within groups) decide for themselves how much technology is too much. In some cases, it's a bare-bones medieval lifestyle, but not in all. Some have every kind of technology, as long as they can in good conscience say that it is not complicating their lives.

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[ConfederateSS]

--------Really Jp4fun.....ONLY One...Huh!!!! ....
----------- How many is enough????...To you see the real writing on the wall ...???
----------- If The Biden Government can shut down An Amish Farm....Raid An Ex/Future U.S. President's Home...for no reason...What will they do to you???....That is the real question....... ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)...

[mookiemcgee]

--------Really Jp4fun.....ONLY One...Huh!!!! ....
----------- How many is enough????...To you see the real writing on the wall ...???
----------- If The Biden Government can shut down An Amish Farm....Raid An Ex/Future U.S. President's Home...for unlawful possession of state secrets...What will they do to you???....That is the real question....... ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)...

fixed for accuracy

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[jusplay4fun]

--------Really Jp4fun.....ONLY One...Huh!!!! ....
----------- How many is enough????...Do you see the real writing on the wall ...???
----------- If The Biden Government can shut down An Amish Farm....Raid An Ex/Future U.S. President's Home...for no reason...What will they do to you???....That is the real question....... ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)...

Fixed typo.

ONLY One? One what? I posted three times since your previous post here, so what are you referencing??? You are clear as MUD, as usual.

Also: those are the things you cite as what Biden is doing that is SO BAD? Do you see the impacts of Biden's policy on the US Economy? The Economy will have a larger impact on most people's mind vs. Biden's "attack" on the Amish, especially in regards to the November elections.

Did you hear Biden's divisive speech in Philadelphia, after he called for Unity in January 2021? Where is Biden's desire to UNITE Americans? Talk about divisive politics and confrontational rhetoric; Biden is now giving us examples.

Here is what I wrote and posted in another thread in this Forum; do you see the writings on a the Larger Wall, ConfedSS?

The Democrats will try to use anti-Trump rhetoric, Gun Restrictions, Abortion, the slight reduction in gasoline prices, and college loan forgiveness as their road to victory in November 2022 and 2024. Green energy is not high on the list of concerns for most voters. How many feel about the future and how badly inflation [i.e., The US Economy] impacts their lives (and possibly Crime) will be a HUGE Factor in the elections of 2022.

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[mookiemcgee]

I saw if was going to be a long video and almost balked. Glad I didnt, that was a true instant classic.

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The rest were introductions of Noah to really enhance the enjoyment of that last one.

[saxitoxin]