Are Hispanic people like Tacos?

[saxitoxin]

Jill Biden yesterday announced that Hispanics are basically just lazy, dumb tacos.

Hispanics are upset.

The remarks were met with anger by the National Association of Hispanic Journalists (NAHJ), who encouraged the first lady and her team to “take time to better understand the complexities of our people and communities. We are not tacos."

https://www.thedailybeast.com/jill-bide ... fast-tacos

[saxitoxin]

In unrelated news ...

President Joe Biden's popularity is tanking among Hispanic voters, according to a new poll from the New York Times/Siena College.

Only 32% strongly or somewhat approved of Biden's presidency, while over 60% strongly or somewhat disapproved in the Monday poll, which surveyed 849 registered voters between July 5-7 and had a margin of error of 4.1%.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... ar-AAZsRNs

[bigtoughralf]

I think you're supposed to say 'tacx' now.

[jonesthecurl]

Some of them, I'm sure, are fine people.

[mookiemcgee]

I think you're supposed to say 'tacx' now.

Where is the penis/vagina on a taco ser?

[Maxleod]

I never understood why Americans call Hispanic a race.

In Hispanic there's Spain.

Hispanic is tanned white, same way Scandinavian is blond white.

And "Latinos"...

Latin languages:

Italian
French
Portugese
Romanian

and... SPANISH.

Guess it's an american thing, but I just don't get it.

[jonesthecurl]

Yes, when I first got here I was puzzled by a 'hispanic' comedian telling jokes about 'white folks' as if he wasn't one.

[mookiemcgee]

I never understood why Americans call Hispanic a race.

In Hispanic there's Spain.

Hispanic is tanned white, same way Scandinavian is blond white.

And "Latinos"...

Latin languages:

Italian
French
Portugese
Romanian

and... SPANISH.

Guess it's an american thing, but I just don't get it.

If you think of it as a venn diagram, Hispanic fits entirely inside the larger circle that is Latino. All Scandinavians virtually all white, but all whites are not Scandinavian.

The truly American way is to describe them all as 'illegals' though.

[jusplay4fun]

I think part of the answer is that Hispanic is an ethnic group, but not a race. BUT now there is discussion that there are no real races. There used to be 3-4 (main) races:

The world population can be divided into 4 major races, namely white/Caucasian, Mongoloid/Asian, Negroid/Black, and Australoid

Some do not count Australoid as a separate race; see also:

https://egyankosh.ac.in/bitstream/123456789/73689/1/Unit-7.pdf

and:

In 1976, the U.S. Congress passed what was the only law in this country’s history that mandated the collection and analysis of data for a specific ethnic group: “Americans of Spanish origin or descent.” The language of that legislation described this group as “Americans who identify themselves as being of Spanish-speaking background and trace their origin or descent from Mexico, Puerto Rico, Cuba, Central and South America, and other Spanish-speaking countries.” This includes 20 Spanish-speaking nations from Latin America and Spain itself, but not Portugal or Portuguese-speaking Brazil. Standards for collecting data on Hispanics were developed by the Office of Management and Budget in 1977 and revised in 1997. Using these standards, schools, public health facilities and other government entities and agencies keep track of how many Hispanics they serve – the primary goal of the 1976 law.

However, the Census Bureau does not apply this definition when counting Hispanics. Rather, it relies entirely on self-reporting and lets each person identify as Hispanic or not.

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/09/23/who-is-hispanic/

[mookiemcgee]

I think part of the answer is that Hispanic is an ethnic group, but not a race.

Are you suggesting Latino(x) is a race?

[ConfederateSS]

I think part of the answer is that Hispanic is an ethnic group, but not a race. BUT now there is discussion that there are no real races. ...False!!!!!!...Fixed...

https://egyankosh.ac.in/bitstream/123456789/73689/1/Unit-7.pdf

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https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/09/23/fwho-is-hispanic/

----------------No race...FALSE...
----------------I say I am An Earthling...Like the birds,fish,trees...etc...etc...
----------------But there is one race...The HUMAN RACE....
---------------------Everyone comes from Africa...Home of The Garden of EDEN...So Everyone is African actually....
--------------------- For After GOD created MANKIND.... MANKIND would go North to Europe, And Northeast to Asia...As Man would go from Asia , Down through North and South America, at the same time...Man floated,sailed in make shift crafts from Africa to Australia....But MANKIND is all African/ Human Earthlings....ONE HUMAN RACE... ... ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)...

[mookiemcgee]

[jusplay4fun]

ConfedSS, with his usual hyperbole and excessive drama, missed my point. When I said "no races" I meant that the use of 3-4 races of humans is questioned by many and can be considered a false categorization of human beings. All humans are all part of the only one true race, that of the human race.

I think this is the point that ConfedSS TRIED to make, in a rather inarticulate manner; typical of ConFedSS, he is full of fury (...!!.... and more .....) and grammatical errors. And did he mean "earthling" and NOT Earththing?

NOT I say I am An Earththing.

[saxitoxin]

I never understood why Americans call Hispanic a race.

In Hispanic there's Spain.

Hispanic is tanned white, same way Scandinavian is blond white.

And "Latinos"...

Latin languages:

Italian
French
Portugese
Romanian

and... SPANISH.

Guess it's an american thing, but I just don't get it.

The federal government only identifies six races: White, Black, Asian, Native American, Pacific Islander, and Some Other Race.

Hispanic is a statistically monitored ethnicity, rather than a race. (Not based on biological characteristics but a preponderance of cultural traits generally including two or more of the following: Spanish-language surname, Spanish-language fluency, adherence to customs associated with Spain or Central/South America like quinceañeras, birth in Spain or Central/South America.)

Italian and Irish used to be statistically monitored ethnicities when there were concerns with population control and crime associated with Italian and Irish immigration and breeding patterns, but they're no longer ethnicities that warrant special attention by the government. (I, however, refuse to live in a neighborhood inhabited by people of Italian or Irish descent.)

When you fill out the Census, you first identify whether you are Hispanic, and then, regardless of your answer to that - you identify your Race; 85% of the Hispanic population is White Hispanic with the remaining 15% Black Hispanic, Asian Hispanic, Native American Hispanic, Pacific Islander Hispanic, or Some Other Race Hispanic.


All of the "yes" answers get merged during aggregation of statistics; they're just presented this way to elicit accurate responses by people who, for instance, describe themselves as Puerto Rican but don't want to consider themselves Hispanic.


All of the red options get aggregated as Asian but are separated for presentation and all of the green options get aggregated as Pacific Islander but are also separated for presentation.

[saxitoxin]

Native American is problematic as a race since Tribes only consider Tribal citizens to be Native Americans (except in the case of Alaskan Natives), which is a political definition and not a biological definition since a Tribal Government can enroll anyone they want as a member and also exclude anyone they want. It would be like saying "my race is Justin Bieber Fan Club" or "my race is Stamp Collector."

But Tribes simultaneously refuse to endorse a change to the Census questionnaire that would specify you must be a current enrolled member of a Tribe to be counted as Native American (instead allowing this amorphous idea of "principal tribe," or a tribe with whom you have a genealogical affinity but aren't actually a citizen of). They know they benefit from wild overestimates of their own population resulting from 100% White Americans who have romantic false memories of a great-great-grandfather being a half Cherokee or Blackfoot or Snake or Sioux warrior or whatever (i.e. Elizabeth Warren).

Officially, the Native American population is 1.5% but it's probably more like 0.2%.

[jusplay4fun]

I think many Americans are too concerned about race, ethnicity, and identity politics. The results is an attempt is to fragment the US population rather than focusing on what it means to be American, which is based on our common values, attitudes, and bonds.

[saxitoxin]

The results is an attempt is to fragment the US population rather than focusing on what it means to be American, which is based on our common values, attitudes, and bonds.

Agreed. We should all put aside our differences and unite behind President Trump and the Trump family. Ivanka truly is our Princess Di.

[mookiemcgee]

I, however, refuse to live in a neighborhood inhabited by people of Italian or Irish descent.

You spend alot of time here, and I'm just gonna play into the stereotype that JimBoston is Irish. Didn't you already say you prefer living among gay heathens in another thread?

It would be like saying "my race is Justin Bieber Fan Club" or "my race is Stamp Collector."

Or like a republican Dean Browing saying 'I'm a gay black guy' ?

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[jimboston]

People all just need to chill.

She wasn’t trying to be mean… she was trying to acknowledge that they’re a very diverse group.

Are Taco’s all identical or are they different? So people put rice in Tacos, some use plain tomatoes others salsa, my daughter likes cheese but I prefer sour cream. Some people like hard shells, some soft… I’ll skip the shell entirely and just go for the salad. When you account for all the variations of spices, toppings, shell types, etc… the possibilities for what makes a “taco” a “taco” are enormous. I think her analogy is valid.

If someone said “You Celtic peoples are very diverse… like for example how there are many variations of beer.” I wouldn’t be offended. (Though I would think they were mistaken as I don’t think we’re very diverse.)

[bigtoughralf]

“You Celtic peoples are very diverse… like for example how there are many variations of beer.” I wouldn’t be offended.

Is that because you're American?

[bigtoughralf]

I, however, refuse to live in a neighborhood inhabited by people of Italian or Irish descent.

That's fair, few people would want to live next door to a bunch of Yankee doodles who paint their whole house green and talk about nothing except how their great x7 grandfather was from Co Tyrone.

[saxitoxin]

I, however, refuse to live in a neighborhood inhabited by people of Italian or Irish descent.

That's fair, few people would want to live next door to a bunch of Yankee doodles who paint their whole house green and talk about nothing except how their great x7 grandfather was from Co Tyrone.

EXACTLY.

Also, the odor.

[mookiemcgee]

People all just need to chill.

She wasn’t trying to be mean… she was trying to acknowledge that they’re a very diverse group.

Are Taco’s all identical or are they different? So people put rice in Tacos, some use plain tomatoes others salsa, my daughter likes cheese but I prefer sour cream. Some people like hard shells, some soft… I’ll skip the shell entirely and just go for the salad. When you account for all the variations of spices, toppings, shell types, etc… the possibilities for what makes a “taco” a “taco” are enormous. I think her analogy is valid.

If someone said “You Celtic peoples are very diverse… like for example how there are many variations of beer.” I wouldn’t be offended. (Though I would think they were mistaken as I don’t think we’re very diverse.)

Stereotype confirmed!

[ConfederateSS]

ConfedSS, with his usual hyperbole and excessive drama, missed my point. When I said "no races" I meant that the use of 3-4 races of humans is questioned by many and can be considered a false categorization of human beings. All humans are all part of the only one true race, that of the human race.

I think this is the point that ConfedSS TRIED to make, in a rather inarticulate manner; typical of ConFedSS, he is full of fury (...!!.... and more .....) and grammatical errors. And did he mean "earthling" and NOT Earththing?

NOT I say I am An Earththing.

---------Yes, Earthling....... Unfortunately, spellcheck doesn't feel the same....Robots must not be allowed to take over all Earthlings...

------------- The most important fact is...The U.S. Government keeps America divided, then any other factor...The Government labels this, labels that...That is what needs to stop...The Government dividing America... Keeping Americans fighting each other...... ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)...

[jimboston]

“You Celtic peoples are very diverse… like for example how there are many variations of beer.” I wouldn’t be offended.

Is that because you're American?

I wouldn’t be offended because taking offense at something so trivial is ridiculous.

If that’s not answering your question perhaps you better phrase. your questions more clearly.