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To Kill a Book, By Washington,(State)!!!!

Postby ConfederateSS on Wed Jan 26, 2022 12:44 pm

-------- Washington State has just made it no longer possible to ....Let... To Kill A Mockingbird... be taught in public schools....They say , they don't want teachers feeling uncomfortable teaching the book... :( :( :( O:) ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)... O:)
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Postby mookiemcgee on Wed Jan 26, 2022 6:32 pm

As usually, you post are completely detached from reality. It's no longer 'required reading' that is all, no ban, no burning of books, no changing of history or whatever crazy other suggestive things you want to infer.

It's just not REQUIRED that they teach it to 9th graders, though teachers are welcome to teach it if they want.
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Re: To Kill a Book, By Washington,(State)!!!!

Postby jusplay4fun on Wed Jan 26, 2022 8:21 pm

Let's clarify this matter even more. It is not the entire STATE of Washington, BUT ONLY ONE school district in the state of Washington:

Washington state school district removes 'To Kill a Mockingbird' from required reading list
David Gutman - The Seattle Times (TNS) Jan 26, 2022

Jan. 26—The Mukilteo School Board voted unanimously Monday night to remove "To Kill a Mockingbird" from the required reading list for ninth graders, while still allowing for teachers to choose to teach the classic novel to students.

The board acted after months of discussion among teachers, parents and students, and in reaction to concerns over racism in the classic novel, first published in 1960.

John Gahagan, a board member since 2011, stressed that members were not banning the book, just removing it from the list of required reading. He said a 20-member instructional committee of teachers, parents and community members had voted by a nearly two-thirds margin to no longer have the book be required reading.


https://www.yakimaherald.com/news/northwest/washington-state-school-district-removes-to-kill-a-mockingbird-from-required-reading-list/article_d0168cfd-3b9c-50f7-b4ba-979e56212ea8.html#:~:text=Jan.%2026%E2%80%94The%20Mukilteo%20School,the%20classic%20novel%20to%20students.
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Re: To Kill a Book, By Washington,(State)!!!!

Postby saxitoxin on Wed Jan 26, 2022 8:34 pm

I don't think I ever read To Kill a Mockingbird in school. These are the books I remember having to read in American Literature:

- Catcher in the Rye
- Walden
- The Great Gatsby
- The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn
- Red Badge of Courage
- Where the Red Fern Grows

I'm sure there were more but that's all I remember off the top of my head. I do recall we were assigned to read Kurt Vonnegut, Jr.'s short story Harrison Bergeron in middle school. There's no possible way anyone who has been in middle school in the last 36 months will have been assigned that. Mookiemcgee has spent half his crypto buying up all the copies of it to burn!
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Re: To Kill a Book, By Washington,(State)!!!!

Postby jusplay4fun on Wed Jan 26, 2022 8:51 pm

I read "Huck Finn" and "Mockingbird" and both are really good books.

The Catcher in the Rye is supposed to be very good, too, but never felt compelled to read it (on my own) since it was not one I was required to read.
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Postby saxitoxin on Wed Jan 26, 2022 9:17 pm

Oh I forgot about Fahrenheit 451 (this was actually semi-optional ... they gave us a list of books and we had to pick one off it and I picked this one).

- The only Hemingway we had to read in American Literature was the Old Man and the Sea but I think some schools have to read more?

- We didn't read Slaughterhouse 5 ... we watched the film and then read a summary! I think we ran out of time in class; either that or Vonnegut's writing was inappropriate for school but they wanted us to know the book existed. I read it on my own later. That prompted me to read Cat's Cradle, Sirens of Titan, and Breakfast of Champions.

- We never read Catch 22 but I think some schools do, or so I hear.

Then these were from middle school ...

- I Am the Cheese (also semi-optional, from a list of books we had to pick ... in retrospect, despite this being a YA novel it seems pretty adult / bizarre for the age range)

- A Walk in Wolf Wood (I guess this one wasn't American Literature though; we didn't have a separate and distinct American Literature class in middle school, just Language Arts)

I completely am drawing a blank as to what we read for English Literature, though. I think it was mostly Shakespearean plays. I know A Midsummer Night's Dream and Hamlet were in there. Also something by T.S. Eliot whom they classified as an English writer instead of American.
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Postby jusplay4fun on Thu Jan 27, 2022 3:59 am

Regarding Eliot:

Thomas Stearns Eliot OM (26 September 1888 – 4 January 1965) was a poet, essayist, publisher, playwright, literary critic and editor.[2] Considered one of the 20th century's major poets, he is a central figure in English-language Modernist poetry.

Born in St. Louis, Missouri, to a prominent Boston Brahmin family, he moved to England in 1914 at the age of 25 and went on to settle, work, and marry there.[3] He became a British citizen in 1927 at the age of 39, subsequently renouncing his American citizenship.[4]

Eliot first attracted widespread attention for his poem "The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock" in 1915, which was received as a modernist masterpiece. It was followed by some of the best-known poems in the English language, including "The Waste Land" (1922), "The Hollow Men" (1925), "Ash Wednesday" (1930), and Four Quartets (1943).[5] He was also known for his seven plays, particularly Murder in the Cathedral (1935) and The Cocktail Party (1949). He was awarded the Nobel Prize in Literature in 1948, "for his outstanding, pioneer contribution to present-day poetry".[6][7]

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Postby mookiemcgee on Thu Jan 27, 2022 11:19 am

saxitoxin wrote:I don't think I ever read To Kill a Mockingbird in school. These are the books I remember having to read in American Literature:

- Catcher in the Rye
- Walden
- The Great Gatsby
- The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn
- Red Badge of Courage
- Where the Red Fern Grows

I'm sure there were more but that's all I remember off the top of my head. I do recall we were assigned to read Kurt Vonnegut, Jr.'s short story Harrison Bergeron in middle school. There's no possible way anyone who has been in middle school in the last 36 months will have been assigned that. Mookiemcgee has spent half his crypto buying up all the copies of it to burn!


Slaughterhouse 5 was on the list for me in HS and was one of my favorite assigned reads, it similarly pushed me to read several of his other books.
We also had to read Catcher, which is a weird book and I'm not sure why schools choose it. Gatsby, Huck Finn both were on the list.
Red Badge of Courage... I've never even heard of before you post. Is Where the Red Fern Grows the sequel?

Of course being in California I had to read all of these in Spanish since CA has completely banned english books in a effort to make illegals feel more comfortable amiright CONFED?
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Re: To Kill a Book, By Washington,(State)!!!!

Postby ConfederateSS on Thu Jan 27, 2022 1:03 pm

mookiemcgee wrote:As usually, you post are completely detached from reality. It's no longer 'required reading' that is all, no ban, no burning of books, no changing of history or whatever crazy other suggestive things you want to infer.

It's just not REQUIRED that they teach it to 9th graders, though teachers are welcome to teach it if they want.

----------Ironically it was the only required book ...Aside from that ,Why are people so afraid?...So egar to ban things?...Or uncomfortable?...Or use that as an excuse?...Instead of opening their minds...
------------You , yourself said, you had to read something required...Which opened your mind , to read several more books...That is my point...You can learn more , open your mind more to things you may never have known...Rather than be so quick to , ban, etc...
---------------Take Rev. And Gen. STONEWALL JACKSON...Instead of being so quick to tear him down...Find out about the true man he was...Willing to risk his life to teach Blacks how to read and write...When it was against the law and could have brought jail or worse...To those who chose to disobey it...
-------------So, ...If you move to China...For good...Should or,do you think China will bend over backwards to teach in English or Spanish...Have everything like driver's tests etc...given in English or Spanish....Or will you have to learn Chinese to get along, in your new life in China... Remember you chose to go, you were not forced to...
-------------As for comfortable...In any form of life... People need to man up , so to speak...When you start anything new, or are put in new situations...Yes, it is uncomfortable, you learn,and get over it...It is time to stop treating everyone like they need to be coddled... People will adapt...They won't, if you hold them back...
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Postby mookiemcgee on Thu Jan 27, 2022 1:35 pm

mookiemcgee wrote:As usually, you post are completely detached from reality. It's no longer 'required reading' that is all, no ban, no burning of books, no changing of history or whatever crazy other suggestive things you want to infer.

It's just not REQUIRED that they teach it to 9th graders, though teachers are welcome to teach it if they want.



ConfederateSS wrote:----------Ironically it was the only required book

False, and in fact just a stupid thing to say. Unless you have a source, you are telling us that a school board has NO required reading outside of one book for high school? You will believe anything you hear, as long as it comes from your preferred source won't you Confed?

ConfederateSS wrote: ...Aside from that ,Why are people so afraid?...So egar to ban things?...Or uncomfortable?...Or use that as an excuse?...Instead of opening their minds...

They didn't ban anything, you are just parroting what you heard on Fox News (or whatever is farther to the right that you listen to).

ConfederateSS wrote:------------You , yourself said, you had to read something required...Which opened your mind , to read several more books...That is my point...You can learn more , open your mind more to things you may never have known...Rather than be so quick to , ban, etc...

Again, nothing was banned. You've been misinformed and corrected, any teacher who chooses to can make this required reading for their own classroom if they want.

ConfederateSS wrote:---------------Take Rev. And Gen. STONEWALL JACKSON...Instead of being so quick to tear him down...Find out about the true man he was...Willing to risk his life to teach Blacks how to read and write...When it was against the law and could have brought jail or worse...To those who chose to disobey it...

Oh boy, here we go again down the 'silent majority' rabbit hole of blacks chose to come to America as slaves propaganda you spew so frequently.

ConfederateSS wrote:-------------So, ...If you move to China...For good...Should or,do you think China will bend over backwards to teach in English or Spanish...Have everything like driver's tests etc...given in English or Spanish....Or will you have to learn Chinese to get along, in your new life in China... Remember you chose to go, you were not forced to...

blacks chose to come to America in the 1700-1800s lol? Again with this bullshit?
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ConfederateSS wrote:-------------As for comfortable...In any form of life... People need to man up , so to speak...When you start anything new, or are put in new situations...Yes, it is uncomfortable, you learn,and get over it...It is time to stop treating everyone like they need to be coddled... People will adapt...They won't, if you hold them back... O:) ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)... O:)


It seems it makes you 'uncomfortable' that people in small community, in a far away state, made a choice at the local level to let teachers decide what's appropriate for their individual classroom. I guess you should man up and accept it, instead of being a stupid little bitch about it.
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Postby DirtyDishSoap on Thu Jan 27, 2022 5:21 pm

Oh for f*ck sakes, here we go... considering I've lived nearly my entire life in this f*ck awful state, I'll illuminate you on my area.

To kill a Confederate bird was never required reading. Huckleberry wasn't even required reading but i could still find it in our schools library, the only reason i read that to begin with was because of the racial ties behind it and why would be offensive. No class back from my tender childhood to my graduation of 08 was either book required reading.

In fact, no book should be required reading. Let the teacher leave it up to their discretion.

I was reading Grapes of Wrath when i was in the 5th grade. Why? Because my teacher didn't treat me like an idiot and I'm actually capable of critical thinking. You on the other hand, I'm actually shocked you haven't destroyed your keyboard from the amount of drool you spew. I'm positive you read out loud every post thinking you're sending us some texted masterpiece, but it's just absolute trash.

You're trash.

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Postby KoolBak on Thu Jan 27, 2022 5:45 pm

:lol: Made me smile
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Postby ConfederateSS on Fri Jan 28, 2022 7:13 pm

mookiemcgee wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:!


Slaughterhouse 5 was on the list for me in HS and was one of my favorite assigned reads, it similarly pushed me to read several of his other books.


ConfederateSS wrote:
mookiemcgee wrote:As usually, you post are completely detached from reality. It's no longer 'required reading' that is all, no ban, no burning of books, no changing of history or whatever crazy other suggestive things you want to infer.

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-----------You , yourself said, you had to read something required...Which opened your mind , to read several more books...That is my point...You can learn more , open your mind more to things you may never have known...Rather than be so quick to , ban, etc...

----------Yes, Kool...I smiled too....Mookie in his own words...Proved my point....Why things should be taught, not torn down... :D :D :D
--------Now Mookie ,are you talking about a street sign...Or a classroom in A small Chinese village...you moved to at age 11...Will they teach Chinese History in English or Spanish...A Chinese class...Will you be given Chinese books to read in English or Spanish...???...You go to some cities in California...None of the street signs are in English...How is your state doing...Being run into the ground by a bunch of Liberals who don't follow the laws of America...

--------As for China that was an example....In Canada , English and French are the official languages of their country...In The USA... English is, when it was decided on..it won by one vote....

---------On top of that.... Chinese, Spanish, and English are not even the most spoken language in the world... Arabic is...Hey, guess what numerals we use...Arabic...
-----------Now as for people speaking and learning English in America....I believe the old Expression is..."When in Rome"....now in The 19th and 20th centuries... People came to America...Spoke their native languages at home or at clubs and such...But at school, their jobs...They learned English...Why do you think they did that.... Because they were forced to...They were uncomfortable....Or do you think they wanted to thrive and make a life in America...Be an American...I know it is hard for far LEFT LIBERALS to understand that concept... Because Liberals just can stand how GREAT AMERICA IS...WILL STOP AT NOTHING TO TEAR AMERICA DOWN.....IN NEW YORK CITY, non citizens can now vote...Yeah! You might like that...LEFT LIBERALS...As you Californians leave your car doors unlocked,trunks open, as stores leave your communities...You guys are doing alright, ignoring American laws...Keep doing what you want...But one day it will come and bite you in your ass... :lol: =D> =D> =D>
O:) ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)... O:)....I can wear 1,000 Kiss me I'm Irish buttons , paint my ass green...But there is no way I will be mistaken for an Irishman on St.Patrick's Day!!!...My people, ancestors ,grand parents, generations etc..had to learn English to make their way in America!!!...But I guess blind,deaf to the world Liberals will just never understand that To make it in America, you have to want to!!!!...They want the government to hand them stuff, they think they are entitled, gimme, gimme, gimme...Keep up the good work West Coast, New England,New York...You are entitled to live in what you wanted, I mean entitled...
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Postby mookiemcgee on Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:04 pm

All of this from a guy who spent an entire thread arguing that teaching critical race theory should be banned, and it's also the reason we have school shootings.

In China, they start teaching kids english in 3rd grade (when they are 9). Some students start as early as kindergarten.

In California the street signs are in English, unless the streets are the names of actual people who's names are of Spanish origin. In China there is a whole area where all the street signs, shop signs and basically everything is in English. It's really not that unusual. In any city in America that has a 'China Town' you would also find street and shop signs in Chinese. It's really not all that crazy or unusual anywhere in the world to find this phenomenon. You seem to have an issue with it because it's in Spanish, presumably because you blame Mexicans for all your problems.

How is CA being run? Oh, well it's the 6th largest economy in the world... just behind Germany and ahead of England. God tier weather, people friendly, very little crime I haven't locked my doors at night the decade I've been in this house. I know the news you watch makes it seem really bad, but you should come visit and actually see for yourself why we have such insane high real estate cost (because everyone still wants to live here), and why people really don't mind paying slightly higher taxes (because the services they pay for actually work here).

How your are doing? Drinking water safe in flint yet? Has the manufacturing base Trump promised you come back or has basically nothing changed? Are people cups running over with the new found wealth being created? You can make up all the shit you want about non-citizens voting, none of it is true. Your deep belief in the big lie has turned you from 'an american' into an 'american traitor' just like it did for your ancestors who fought on the confederate side a couple hundred years ago... You are now a multigenerational American traitor family. Congrats!
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Postby saxitoxin on Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:43 pm

mookiemcgee wrote:In China, they start teaching kids english in 3rd grade (when they are 9). Some students start as early as kindergarten.


Big deal. I started learning English even before kindergarten.
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Postby saxitoxin on Sat Jan 29, 2022 2:02 pm

Your deep belief in the big lie


    January 2017: More than 50 House Democrats have declared that they plan to boycott Donald Trump’s inauguration Friday. The number grew after Lewis said he doesn’t see Trump as a “legitimate president” and announced that he would not attend his inauguration.

    https://time.com/4635411/democrats-boyc ... uguration/


    August 2019: Stacey Abrams said Monday that she won’t concede her loss in the 2018 Georgia gubernatorial race. “Concession means to say that the process was fair, but when I run an organization that in 10 days between election night and the night I refuse to concede we receive more than 50,000 phone calls for people who were denied the right to vote I am complicit if I say that that system is fair,” Abrams said.

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Postby saxitoxin on Sat Jan 29, 2022 2:10 pm

mookiemcgee wrote:everyone still wants to live here


    April 2021: California loses one of 53 House seats after 2020 Census found the Golden State’s population growth slowing. Maybe the hardest news to take of all: While California is seeing its national stature shrink ever-so-slightly, that power is being shunted to our faster-growing rivals, Texas (which adds two seats) and Florida (which gets one).

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Postby mookiemcgee on Sat Jan 29, 2022 2:16 pm

saxitoxin wrote:
Your deep belief in the big lie


    January 2017: More than 50 House Democrats have declared that they plan to boycott Donald Trump’s inauguration Friday. The number grew after Lewis said he doesn’t see Trump as a “legitimate president” and announced that he would not attend his inauguration.

    https://time.com/4635411/democrats-boyc ... uguration/


    August 2019: Stacey Abrams said Monday that she won’t concede her loss in the 2018 Georgia gubernatorial race. “Concession means to say that the process was fair, but when I run an organization that in 10 days between election night and the night I refuse to concede we receive more than 50,000 phone calls for people who were denied the right to vote I am complicit if I say that that system is fair,” Abrams said.

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Postby mookiemcgee on Sat Jan 29, 2022 2:18 pm

saxitoxin wrote:
mookiemcgee wrote:everyone still wants to live here


    April 2021: California loses one of 53 House seats after 2020 Census found the Golden State’s population growth slowing. Maybe the hardest news to take of all: While California is seeing its national stature shrink ever-so-slightly, that power is being shunted to our faster-growing rivals, Texas (which adds two seats) and Florida (which gets one).

    https://calmatters.org/politics/2021/04 ... ss-census/





Fair enough, not everyone. The tin-foil hats are starting to move to Wyoming and Texas.... They aren't flooding to the midwest though
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Postby saxitoxin on Sat Jan 29, 2022 2:22 pm

mookie "misinformation" mcgee wrote:very little crime



    December 2021: Preliminary numbers from California’s biggest cities suggest that 2020’s stunning 30-percent increase in the statewide murder rate – the largest since 1960 – has continued to rise this year, and crime experts have as many questions as answers.

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mookiemcgee wrote:Drinking water safe in flint yet?


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    Drain and Water Commissioner of Genesee County: Jeffrey Wright (Democrat Party)

    Genesee County vote in 2020 elections: Democrat (53.84% Biden)

    Genesee County vote in 2016 elections: Democrat (52.34% Clinton)

    Genesee County vote in 2012 elections: Democrat (63.56% Obama)

    Genesee County vote in 2008 elections: Democrat (65.45% Obama)

    Genesee County vote in 2004 elections: Democrat (60.4% Kerry)

    Genesee County vote in 2000 elections: Democrat (62.8% Gore)

    Genesee County vote in 1996 elections: Democrat (60.9% Clinton)

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Postby ConfederateSS on Sat Jan 29, 2022 8:14 pm

----------CRT is make believe land made up of Fake History ,math,other subjects, to brainwash America's children,think in 2022 A.D.,kids are either on one side of oppression or the other ,to separate them...Easy for The Democratic party to control...
---------------The new math in Oregon...2+2 = 7 ...,129...What ever you're comfortable with little Timmy... Don't want to hurt your feelings...Saying you're wrong the answer is 4...Having the correct answer is oppression...Buy the way , little Timmy, you are now to identify as a girl and your name is Tabitha, don't tell mommy and daddy... That's not uncomfortable to teach a 1st grader.... :roll: :roll: :roll:...This really needs to stop...It is sick,kids shouldn't be put through this anywhere...School or not...
------------As to Flint, the Democratic party destroyed the auto industry...Which Flint was a major part of...Film maker Michael Moore actually made a movie about...Going to Seattle , Home of NIKE..Trying to get them to open a Shoe factory in Flint, at the site of an abandoned car plant... Because of Democratic led unions, NIKE refused...it would cost to much...Plus they make a fortune , exploiting Southeast Asia , not just China for the past 6 decades of slave labor...Now as to the water...Sure lead pipes...But how old are the houses???...Granted the people should have had a say, in switching the way water comes and goes to Flint.....Detroit has the Detroit River and the Rouge River... Pollution central ...But Detroit has one, if not the best water plants in the country..
-----------I know people don't think about certain things when they buy a house...I am sure those renting...It would be up to the landlords...
----------But why should it be the government's fault , you have lead pipes...I know not everyone can afford to replace them...I own My house,my parent's house ,both my grandparents houses...I changed from lead to copper,PVC myself...But I know how...I know...A) It is a dirty job,take a few weeks, busting up cement,digging down, mud , water....Yes, I know how to do that...Anyone can learn...It is well worth it in the long run...Who thinks of that stuff when they buy a house?...They are to busy thinking of how pretty it is...Not that they might be here for decades... Might want to know, The Roof...Does the house have lead or ,copperPVC...The Electrical layout...What things can I do on my own to improve my house...
----------B)But how many people who lead entitled lives, free this and free that...Would get down and dirty?...They would find that uncomfortable to do...Why learn?...Leave it up to the government to do everything for everyone...right Mookie..It is more comfortable to cash that free check from Uncle Sam.... Comfortable and Uncomfortable have many meanings Mookie...
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Re: To Kill a Book, By Washington,(State)!!!!

Postby jusplay4fun on Sat Jan 29, 2022 8:38 pm

The rhetoric and words are getting a bit heated here. Maybe this is in response to the COLD of the Blizzards of this winter..?

Less vitriol would help the discussion and reduce some of the wild claims and ideas presented.

btw, ConfSS: the shoe maker is Nike, not NIKI.
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Re: To Kill a Book, By Washington,(State)!!!!

Postby ConfederateSS on Sat Jan 29, 2022 8:44 pm

jusplay4fun wrote:The rhetoric and words are getting a bit heated here. Maybe this is in response to the COLD of the Blizzards of this winter..?

Less vitriol would help the discussion and reduce some of the wild claims and ideas presented.

btw, ConfSS: the shoe maker is Nike, not NIKI.

-----------Yeah, I know...I also put for ,instead of 4...you missed that...and I forget Michael Moore... :D ...It might be Washington or Both States,or all three west coast states... O:) ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)... O:)
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Re: To Kill a Book, By Washington,(State)!!!!

Postby jusplay4fun on Sat Jan 29, 2022 8:55 pm

As typical, ConfSS takes a complex situation and oversimplifies it.

His summary of the Flint Michigan water crises is a good example. He tries to blame the Democrats ONLY for the mess, as did saxitoxin.

Note that the water crises and the lead contamination was due to someone appointed in charge of Flint's government by a REPUBLICAN Governor, Rick Snyder. Do not let ALL the BLAME go to Democrats and put NONE of the Blame on the Republicans. It seems to me that the Republicans here were TOO fiscally frugal.

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------------As to Flint, the Democratic party destroyed the auto industry...Which Flint was a major part of...Film maker Michael Moore actually made a movie about...Going to Seattle , Home of NIkI...Trying to get them to open a Shoe factory in Flint, at the site of an abandoned car plant... Because of Democratic led unions, NIKE refused...it would cost to much...Plus they make a fortune , exploiting Southeast Asia , not just China for the past 6 decades of slave labor...Now as to the water...Sure lead pipes...But how old are the houses???...Granted the people should have had a say, in switching the way water comes and goes to Flint.....


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Presidential Claimant of the United States: Old Joe (Democrat Party)

Chair of Senate Environment and Public Works Committee: Tom Carper (Democrat Party)

Chair of House Water Resources and Environment Subcommittee: Grace Napolitano (Democrat Party)

Administrator of the EPA: Michael Reagan (Democrat Party)

Governor of Michigan: Jennifer Granholm (Democrat Party)

Mayor of Flint: Sheldon Neeley (Democrat Party)

Chair of Flint City Council: Eric Mays (Democrat Party)

Drain and Water Commissioner of Genesee County: Jeffrey Wright (Democrat Party)


Let us look at the FACTS:

The Michigan Attorney General's Office Thursday announced criminal charges for eight former state officials, including the state's former Gov. Rick Snyder, along with one current official, for their alleged roles in the Flint water crisis.

Together the group face 42 counts related to the drinking water catastrophe roughly seven years ago. The crimes range from perjury to misconduct in office to involuntary manslaughter.

The drinking water debacle is linked to at least 12 deaths and at least 80 people sickened with Legionnaires' disease after untreated water from the Flint River caused lead to leach from old pipes, poisoning the majority Black city's water system.

Snyder, a Republican who left office two years ago, is facing two counts of willful neglect, both misdemeanors which each carry a maximum sentence of one year in prison and a fine up to $1,000.

https://www.npr.org/2021/01/14/956924155/ex-michigan-gov-rick-snyder-and-8-others-criminally-charged-in-flint-water-crisi


This was the lay of the land in 2011, when Flint, cash-strapped and shouldering a $25 million deficit, fell under state control. Michigan Governor Rick Snyder appointed an emergency manager (basically an unelected official chosen to set local policy) to oversee and cut city costs. This precipitated the tragic decision in 2013 to end the city’s five-decade practice of piping treated water for its residents from Detroit in favor of a cheaper alternative: temporarily pumping water from the Flint River until a new water pipeline from Lake Huron was built. Although the river water was highly corrosive, Flint officials failed to treat it, and lead leached out from aging pipes into thousands of homes.

Lead levels in Flint water
Soon after the city began supplying residents with Flint River water in April 2014, residents started complaining that the water from their taps looked, smelled, and tasted foul. Despite protests by residents lugging jugs of discolored water, officials maintained that the water was safe. A study conducted the following year by researchers at Virginia Tech revealed the problem: Water samples collected from 252 homes through a resident-organized effort indicated citywide lead levels had spiked, with nearly 17 percent of samples registering above the federal “action level” of 15 parts per billion (ppb), the level at which corrective action must be taken. More than 40 percent measured above 5 ppb of lead, which the researchers considered an indication of a “very serious” problem.

https://www.nrdc.org/stories/flint-water-crisis-everything-you-need-know

Lead-Laced Water In Flint: A Step-By-Step Look At The Makings Of A Crisis
April 20, 2016


https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/04/20/465545378/lead-laced-water-in-flint-a-step-by-step-look-at-the-makings-of-a-crisis
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