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2dimes"I especially hope any future protests can be as peaceful as possible.[/quote]
This was not a protest. A protest is an airing of grievances. This was an attempt to intimidate elected representatives through fear. It's terrorism, plain and simple.

[quote="2dimes wrote:I have chipped away at another ten minutes and I vaguely agree that President Trump should have use clear language to oppose the crowds entering the building.

Dukasaur wrote:

2dimes wrote:I have chipped away at another ten minutes and I vaguely agree that President Trump should have use clear language to oppose the crowds entering the building.

What, "We love you, you're very special" wasn't strong enough? Should he have said, "I worship the ground you walk on, since you're doing my dirty work!"?

armati wrote:Heres one to contemplate. First time I've seen this guy. Jones I've seen before.
Anyway, I cant vouche for the guy.
Not like Putin who is entirely credible, heroic actually.

armati wrote:
Personally, I could care less either way, I have agreed with Carlin for years, 2 headed snake.
If you follow the foregn policies you see no dif between dems and repubs.

Dukasaur wrote:If a leftist mob had tried to seize the capitol, they would have been mowed down with machine guns.

Walker and I co-wrote a book, “Unintimidated‚” in which we described the attack on the Capitol in Madison. “Standing on the capitol steps at dusk, [Secretary of Administration] Mike Huebsch watched as an army of thousands formed on State Street and began marching toward him,” we wrote. “Soon they had descended on the building, banging on the doors and windows, chanting, ‘Let us in! Let us in!’ ­The small contingent of capitol police was quickly overwhelmed. Protesters ripped the hinges of an antique oak door at the State Street entrance and streamed inside. Mike watched in disbelief as the window to Democratic Representative Cory Mason’s office opened right in front of him and protesters began crawling into the building. Once inside, they began unlocking doors and bathroom windows until a sea of thousands had flooded the capitol.”

The police retreated in the face of the horde, giving up the first floor, then the second. “The protesters ran amok, chanting ‘­This is our house!’ and ‘This is what democracy looks like!’ ” we wrote. “And they then began searching for the Republican senators who had dared to defy the will of the unions.” As the crowd scoured the building looking for the offending legislators, police sneaked them out through an underground tunnel to a government building across the street. But a Democratic representative posted on social media that the Republican senators were escaping through the tunnels, so when the senators came up into the lobby, the mob was there waiting for them. ­

“The tall windows that framed the lobby were plastered with people yelling and banging on the glass,” we wrote. “They were trapped. ­The senators hid under a stairwell, out of view, while the police ordered a city bus to pull up in front of the building. Officers then formed a human wall on the sidewalk, parting the sea of protesters and creating a pathway for the senators to reach the bus.” ­Once the senators were on board, “the mob on the street began punching the windows and shaking the vehicle. … The police told the senators and staff inside to keep their heads down in case a window shattered.”

Thankfully, no one was killed. But during the course of the occupation, Walker received a steady stream of death threats against him and his wife, including one that promised to “gut her like a deer” and one threatening to kill his sons. Police found dozens of .22-caliber bullets scattered across the Capitol grounds. The occupiers drew chalk outlines of fake dead bodies etched with Walker’s name on the floor, and carried signs that read “Death to tyrants,” “The only good Republican is a dead Republican” and one with picture of him in crosshairs with the words, “Don’t retreat, Reload.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... gainst-it/

Democracy more at risk with no brake on Joe Biden
Salvatore Babones
Salvatore Babones is an associate professor at the University of Sydney and the author of The New Authoritarianism: Trump, Populism, and the Tyranny of Experts, which was named “best on politics 2018” by The Wall Street Journal.

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/commen ... c17484f41e

American democracy is under threat — again.

Joe Biden will take office next week with the unquestioning endorsement of all of these institutions, and control of both houses of congress to boot. Biden’s Democrats are now seeking maximum government — not to implement their policies, but to destroy their opponents. They have demanded show trials of Trump and his supporters, an expansion of the Supreme Court so that Biden can appoint his own new justices and the admission of two new states (the District of Columbia and Puerto Rico) to cement the Democrats’ control over the Senate.

They even propose stretching the Constitution so far as to hold a legally questionable impeachment trial for Trump after he leaves office, just so they can disqualify him from ever running for office again.

Biden’s supporters propose to change the structure of the American state to ensure their grip on power remains firm for a generation or more. And at this point, the only person who is in a position to stop the country from sliding into such a new authoritarianism is ... Joe Biden.

It is always dangerous to trust the fate of a nation to one person, and doubly so if that person is himself being offered near-dictatorial powers to reshape the country’s institutions in his favour.

Trump’s threat to American democracy was the same old threat, the threat of a power-hungry populist eager for the adulation of the crowd, yet another would-be Citizen Kane. Biden’s threat is much more insidious, and much more serious.

WASHINGTON (AP) — U.S. defense officials say they are worried about an insider attack or other threat from service members involved in securing President-elect Joe Biden’s inauguration.

https://apnews.com/article/biden-inaugu ... fed1242ae8

saxitoxin wrote:Now the Bidenistas have got a Black Capitol Police officer suspended merely because he wore a MAGA hat during the riot and defected to the side of the crowd. This shows Biden hates Black men expressing themselves.

saxitoxin wrote:Now the Bidenistas have got a Black Capitol Police officer suspended merely because he wore a MAGA hat during the riot and defected to the side of the crowd. This shows Biden hates Black men expressing themselves.

A man who is suspected of joining the riot at the U.S. Capitol last week told authorities a Capitol Police officer shook his hand as he entered the building and said: 'It's your house now.'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... veals.html

saxitoxin wrote:Now the Bidenists are mad merely because the CP authorized access to the building by the protesters. Snowflakes.

A man who is suspected of joining the riot at the U.S. Capitol last week told authorities a Capitol Police officer shook his hand as he entered the building and said: 'It's your house now.'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... veals.html

What's next? If MAGA supporters occupy the White House are they going to throw a fit when the Secret Service and Park Police don't try to stop them? Sorry but the 1A is more important than maintaining the sanctity of Jill Biden's vibrator closet.

Dukasaur wrote:I used to get really, really angry about saxi's lies. It's been months since he moved my blood pressure by even 1 mm of mercury. He's gotten so absurd he's not even threatening any more.