Conquer Club

Jdsizzleslice wrote:I mean, they control something like 85% of the territory, so it's only fitting, right?

jimboston wrote:I mean like...
1) Who cares?
SAXI
2) Why is he rushing to do this his way out the door?
He has likely made a deal that will benefit his personal business interests once he's evicted from DC
3) Does this recognition violate any treaties or precedents?
Who cares?

etc.

jimboston wrote:I mean like...
1) Who cares?
2) Why is he rushing to do this his way out the door?
3) Does this recognition violate any treaties or precedents?

etc.

jimboston wrote:I mean like...
1) Who cares?
2) Why is he rushing to do this his way out the door?
3) Does this recognition violate any treaties or precedents?

etc.

Dukasaur wrote:In exchange for Trump's recognition of Moroccan mastery of the region, Morocco will become the fourth Arab nation to sign on to normalize relations with Israel. Expect some more breast-beating about how Trump "brought peace to the Middle East" because 4 out of 22 Arab League nations (almost 20% !!!) will then have signed his bogus "peace deal."

Jdsizzleslice wrote:

Dukasaur wrote:In exchange for Trump's recognition of Moroccan mastery of the region, Morocco will become the fourth Arab nation to sign on to normalize relations with Israel. Expect some more breast-beating about how Trump "brought peace to the Middle East" because 4 out of 22 Arab League nations (almost 20% !!!) will then have signed his bogus "peace deal."

So... getting other Arab nations to normalize relations with Israel is "bogus", Duk?

Are you so filled with hatred for Trump that you can't even acknowledge a good thing that he does?

Dukasaur wrote:We've been through your second question before. I'll acknowledge that I hate Trump pretty intensely. It does not override truth. On those occasions when he has done something right, I have been willing to acknowlege it.

Dukasaur wrote:What makes Trump's Israel treaty bogus is not that it is bad. I'll acknowledge that getting Arab countries to normalize relations with Israel is a positive step. What's bogus about it is that it does not come anywhere close to meeting the hype that Trump's spin doctors have been attributing to it. They actually use phrases like "brought peace to the Middle East" and his deal does nothing of the sort. None of the four Arab nations that signed on to the deal were ever significant in the wars against Isreal. It's nice that they made peace, but they were never really at war. Morocco and Sudan did send token forces to join in the major Arab-Israeli wars, the last of which ended half a century ago. (Only the Moroccan force actually engaged in combat; the Sudanese force only arrived after the cease-fire had been signed.) Bahrain and the Emirates didn't even do that much. None of the four were really at war with Israel any more except on paper.

Dukasaur wrote:This treaty between Isreal and four minor members of the Arab League who are not really fighting with it and haven't in 47 years, is just window dressing. It's nice, yes. A game changer? Absolutely not. Deserving of all the ceaseless self-congratulations the Trumpists give each other for it? No.

Dukasaur wrote:What's more, it's come at a frightening cost. Morocco's signature, as we discussed yesterday, was obtained at the price of rubber-stamping the Moroccan conquest of the Sahlawi people in Western Sahara, essentially ending the dream of Sahlawi independence. I would not be at all surprised if genocide is the next step. Today we learned that Trump is sending a billion dollars' worth of military toys to Morocco. So, tacit permission to slaughter the Sahlawi, and a $1 billion pack of implements of destruction to do it with, all to get their signature on an essentially symbolic document that won't change much.

2dimes wrote:I laughed at the pictures of those LAVs. They were all upside down, burned out or broken.

saxitoxin wrote:

2dimes wrote:I laughed at the pictures of those LAVs. They were all upside down, burned out or broken.

Realistically, that was less likely the result of Houthi attacks and more likely just the result of Saudi driving.

ConfederateSS wrote:---------The 2 Africa maps have Western Sahara.......But the World Map 2.1 has the territory all Morocco...Looks Like Conquer Club was The 1st to recognize Morocco's claim... ... ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)...