Conquer Club

saxitoxin wrote:Sorry, hit post on this too soon (debate doesn't start for another hour). I was just getting the initial analysis cued up.

saxitoxin wrote:Sorry, hit post on this too soon (debate doesn't start for another hour). I was just getting the initial analysis cued up.

riskllama wrote:very refreshing to see somewhat of an actual "debate", as opposed to insults being hurled & two old farts constantly trying to talk over one another...there is still hope.

jusplay4fun wrote:I have to agree with most of what Llama says here. The debate was relatively civil, we heard a good discussion of major points, ideas, and issues; also, interruptions were at a minimum.

Both Harris and Pence made good points and both ignored key questions directed at them. It was good to hear a civil and respectful discussion by two candidates who have opposing points of view on many and most issues.

Will there be a second presidential debate? That seems uncertain to me, at this time.

riskllama wrote:very refreshing to see somewhat of an actual "debate", as opposed to insults being hurled & two old farts constantly trying to talk over one another...there is still hope.

saxitoxin wrote:There are a lot of reports coming in from people in the audience that Kamala had serious body odor.

degaston wrote:

saxitoxin wrote:There are a lot of reports coming in from people in the audience that Kamala had serious body odor.

There are a lot of reports from flies in the audience that Pence smelled like shit.

Maybe that was from all the shit coming out of his mouth.

jusplay4fun wrote:It looks bad to announce a "decision" before the contest ("debate") even begins. Period.

saxitoxin wrote:Sorry, hit post on this too soon (debate doesn't start for another hour). I was just getting the initial analysis cued up.

There was no real contest in the vice-presidential debate between Kamala Harris and Mike Pence. Harris wiped the floor with him. Pence ignored, patronized and talked over the two women in the room. Her strategy was cool competence. His was sexist entitlement.

This debate was less high-pitch without Donald Trump ranting and raving on stage. But it was frustrating in its own way – especially for any woman who has ever been in a room with an interjecting, condescending man. Pence repeatedly interrupted Harris, something she rarely did to him; he repeatedly talked over moderator Susan Page of USA Today when she told him his time was up; he repeatedly flouted the rules he had previously agreed to. The disrespect of women was tangible, and it happened over and over.

Harris had no such leeway to bulldoze either her opponent or the moderator. As a black woman on the national stage, she knew she had to walk a thread-thin line: Be likable, but authoritative; strong, but not “aggressive”. Interrupting Pence or even Page posed serious – and sexist – consequences with an electorate that has never seen a woman in the White House. But for better or worse, Harris is used to the Trump circus, and so she walked that tightrope deftly. She was tough, assertive, funny and charming, while Pence was patronizing and stiff.

Dukasaur wrote:kamela wiped the floor with pence

There was no real contest in the vice-presidential debate between Kamala Harris and Mike Pence. Harris wiped the floor with him. Pence ignored, patronized and talked over the two women in the room. Her strategy was cool competence. His was sexist entitlement.

This debate was less high-pitch without Donald Trump ranting and raving on stage. But it was frustrating in its own way – especially for any woman who has ever been in a room with an interjecting, condescending man. Pence repeatedly interrupted Harris, something she rarely did to him; he repeatedly talked over moderator Susan Page of USA Today when she told him his time was up; he repeatedly flouted the rules he had previously agreed to. The disrespect of women was tangible, and it happened over and over.

Harris had no such leeway to bulldoze either her opponent or the moderator. As a black woman on the national stage, she knew she had to walk a thread-thin line: Be likable, but authoritative; strong, but not “aggressive”. Interrupting Pence or even Page posed serious – and sexist – consequences with an electorate that has never seen a woman in the White House. But for better or worse, Harris is used to the Trump circus, and so she walked that tightrope deftly. She was tough, assertive, funny and charming, while Pence was patronizing and stiff.