Yale discriminates against Asians

[mrswdk]

The US Justice Department has ruled that Yale University has been discriminating against Asian students who apply to its undergraduate courses:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-08-14/ ... s/12557704

Just another example of the barriers Chinese face in trying to live a regular life in America.

[2dimes]

[riskllama]

[jimboston]

First sentence in the article... “The US Justice Department has accused Yale University of illegally discriminating against Asian American and white applicants in its undergraduate admissions process.“

Interesting how the title of your thread and the context of the article vary.

Also interesting how people of Asian descent are called “Asian Americans” and people of European descent are called “white” and not “European Americans”. Can we agree that whatever labeling system we use should be standardized?

So everyone should be either...
Native American
African American
European American
Asian American
Latin American
etc.

OR people should be...
Red
Black
White
Yellow
Brown
etc.

In the same sentence you should use one formula/method and not two different labeling schemes.

(Also, why do we feel the need to label people? Different question... I suppose we need some way to identify and correct injustice, but doesn’t the labeling in some way perpetuate injustice?)

[mrswdk]

Yeah, it's dumb how white people are just 'Americans' while anyone who isn't white is first and foremost defined by the fact they aren't white.

[jimboston]

Yeah, it's dumb how white people are just 'Americans' while anyone who isn't white is first and foremost defined by the fact they aren't white.

I agree.

Um... I think that’s exactly what I said.

[The ram]

Yeah, it's dumb how white people are just 'Americans' while anyone who isn't white is first and foremost defined by the fact they aren't white.

I agree.

Um... I think that’s exactly what I said.

You did.

Shimmy isn't even Chinese, he's mixed race. He probably goes on a Chinese version of risk and pretends to be a European woman picking holes in everything that's Chinese. He's one fucked up attention seeking troll, that's for certain.

[jonesthecurl]

Yeah, it's dumb how white people are just 'Americans' while anyone who isn't white is first and foremost defined by the fact they aren't white.

I agree.

Um... I think that’s exactly what I said.

He's not required to disagree with you on everything. Just almost everything.

Oh, and I wholeheartedly agree too.

[jimboston]

Yeah, it's dumb how white people are just 'Americans' while anyone who isn't white is first and foremost defined by the fact they aren't white.

I agree.

Um... I think that’s exactly what I said.

He's not required to disagree with you on everything. Just almost everything.

Oh, and I wholeheartedly agree too.

Yes...but it’s funny that even when he agrees with me he phrases it in a way that a casual reader may interpret as contradictory.

I know he understood me... but he’s writing it with the effect of implying that I was disagreeing with him.
Someone jumping in fresh might assume I was opposed to that view.

[mrswdk]

lolwut

You're too paranoid, bro.

[mrswdk]

He's one fucked up attention seeking troll

[jimboston]

lolwut

You're too paranoid, bro.

I’m paranoid.

... but these elite well educated “Asian Americans and whites”, who are gonna get into several other top universities and already have an advantage over the average middle-income family, they’re not paranoid. No, there’s a racist conspiracy against “Asian Americans and whites” in CT.

[mrswdk]

but these elite well educated “Asian Americans and whites”... they’re not paranoid.

Correct. It was not 'these Asians and whites' who said Yale is biased, it was the US Department of Justice who said Yale is biased. Which you already know, because you acknowledged that during your first attempt at trolling this thread (here).

jim 'gaslight' boston up to his usual tricks, eh.

[saxitoxin]

He probably goes on a Chinese version of risk and pretends to be a European woman picking holes in everything that's Chinese.

It does appear he's interested in Chinese holes.

[2dimes]

Oh good, Saxi's here. Maybe he can explain why any self respecting Chinese person would want to attend a brain washing American university, instead of one of the many superior institutions in China.

[mrswdk]

Leaving aside your pointless attempt at turning this into a China v America thread, the article is talking specifically about Americans who are ethnic Asian.

But I guess they are all just Chinese to you

[jimboston]

but these elite well educated “Asian Americans and whites”... they’re not paranoid.

Correct. It was not 'these Asians and whites' who said Yale is biased, it was the US Department of Justice who said Yale is biased. Which you already know, because you acknowledged that during your first attempt at trolling this thread (here).

jim 'gaslight' boston up to his usual tricks, eh.

So now you automatically agree with everything the US Dept. of Justice says?

[2dimes]

Leaving aside your pointless attempt at turning this into a China v America thread, the article is talking specifically about Americans who are ethnic Asian.

But I guess they are all just Chinese to you

Of course not. Only the intelligent ones are really Chinese. Which is why I'm puzzled they would even apply to an American university. Why are you pretending America is not vastly inferior to China in this thread?

[mrswdk]

America has good universities, they are just tainted by the stench of structural racism same as America's justice system, welfare system and foreign policy.

[jimboston]

America has good universities, they are just tainted by the stench of structural racism same as America's justice system, welfare system and foreign policy.

The “structural racism” you’re complaining about in the OP is completely different than the “structural racism” you’re saying exists in the judicial and welfare and foreign policy systems.

In fact the “racism” the article talks about is Affirmative Action policy and is/was designed to redress the racism you’re complaining about now. You realize you can’t do have it both ways right? You can’t ‘100% equal access’ if you don’t somehow weight the system. In time the educational and economic differences in the classes may subside, but you can’t get there overnight and without breaking a few eggs.

... it’s very easy for China to have no racism when everyone is Chinese. Forget the fact that they push various ethnic and religion minorities to the fridges of their society as part of the policy of the system.

[mrswdk]

Where did I say I think affirmative action is a good way of tackling inequality?

[jimboston]

Where did I say I think affirmative action is a good way of tackling inequality?

You didn’t specifically say that... but you ave a habit of complaining about thing but never offering solutions or opinions.

In this case you are confusing opposite sides of an issue and complaining about both.

Also, you haven’t corrected the OP title. If you want to claim they are racist against Asians you should also include the fact that “whites” are also being discriminated against. It seems you like to ignore parts of the article that don’t fit your narrative.

[mrswdk]

Where did I say I think affirmative action is a good way of tackling inequality?

You didn’t specifically say that... but you ave a habit of complaining about thing but never offering solutions or opinions.

Inferring: bad when other people do it to jim, great when jim does it to others.

[jimboston]

Where did I say I think affirmative action is a good way of tackling inequality?

You didn’t specifically say that... but you ave a habit of complaining about thing but never offering solutions or opinions.

Inferring: bad when other people do it to jim, great when jim does it to others.

Keep dodging the point.

It’s so obvious when you’ve hit a brick wall in your arguments and can no longer validate your stated views.... you just ignore the argument entirely and start finding tiny things to pick at in my phraseology.

You’re pathetic.

Hold a view and defend it... offer a solution.

[mrswdk]

you just ignore the argument entirely and start finding tiny things to pick at in my phraseology.

Yes folks, this is jimboston accusing someone else of playing semantics rather than addressing the real point.

JUST WHEN YOU THOUGHT 2020 COULDN'T GET ANY WILDER