A 15 year-old black girl in the US has spent the last 2 months in jail as punishment for not doing her homework.
A Michigan judge's decision to send a 15-year-old girl to juvenile detention for violating her probation by not completing her online schoolwork during the coronavirus lockdown has prompted protests and calls for her release.
The black teenager has reportedly been detained since mid-May.
Re: US black children arrested for not doing homework
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 9:50 am
by mrswdk
Hey, officer, leave those kids alone!
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Re: US black children arrested for not doing homework
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:31 am
by riskllama
she was in violation of her probation, mrs...that's usually what happens to people who do that.
Re: US black children arrested for not doing homework
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:43 am
by mrswdk
llama thinks jailing a mentally ill minor for two months was an appropriate response to her not completing a piece of homework during the pandemic.
Re: US black children arrested for not doing homework
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 12:07 pm
by riskllama
it's not like she didn't have time to complete it... .
Re: US black children arrested for not doing homework
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 1:13 pm
by mookiemcgee
Re: US black children arrested for not doing homework
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 1:16 pm
by mookiemcgee
mrswdk wrote:llama thinks jailing a mentally ill minor for two months was an appropriate response to her not completing a piece of homework during the pandemic.
ADHD = mentally ill? I mean it's in the DSM, but it isn't exactly the same as Schizophrenia
Re: US black children arrested for not doing homework
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 1:22 pm
by Jdsizzleslice
ngl, the reach has gone so far that it has turned into a reach around. Nice one mrs.
Re: US black children arrested for not doing homework
Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 1:56 pm
by jimboston
Did you fail to read the article you quoted and linked?
“She had been placed on probation in mid-April via a zoom juvenile court hearing after facing an assault and theft charge last year; one of the terms of the probation was a requirement to do her schoolwork.”
So she physically assaulted another human being, and attempted to steal something... THAT is why she is Juvenile Detention.
The court gives her a break and says “listen, if you just try to be good and do your homework you can go home”. She says “Yes, I will do that.”
Then she didn’t do what she said she would!
That’s now the court’s fault? That she committed assault and stole and then didn’t uphold her end of the bargain?
Also... your thread title is a lie...
US black children arrested for not doing homework
This word you CHOSE to use is plural, yet the story is about one individual. Lie much?
Re: US black children arrested for not doing homework
Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 3:18 pm
by Jdsizzleslice
mrs: "That is one damning headline." Also mrs: "She was on probation for assault and theft?"
Re: US black children arrested for not doing homework
Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:50 pm
by mrswdk
She was on probation, therefore locking her up for two months in response to her not doing her homework during the middle of a global pandemic is her own fault! Lock her up! Lock her up!
Re: US black children arrested for not doing homework
Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:56 pm
by Jdsizzleslice
mrswdk wrote:Lock her up! Lock her up!
There it is! mrs wants Hillary Clinton to go to jail!
Re: US black children arrested for not doing homework
Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:08 pm
by Dukasaur
mrswdk wrote:She was on probation, therefore locking her up for two months in response to her not doing her homework during the middle of a global pandemic is her own fault! Lock her up! Lock her up!
Don't be an idiot. Probation terms are probation terms. If you agree to serve a probation, you agree to the terms, which usually involve being on your best behaviour. For adults, that usually includes going to work (if employed) or actively seeking work (if unemployed.) Doing your schoolwork is just the juvenile equivalent of an adult going to work.
Re: US black children arrested for not doing homework
Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:49 pm
by jimboston
mrswdk wrote:She was on probation, therefore locking her up for two months in response to her not doing her homework during the middle of a global pandemic is her own fault! Lock her up! Lock her up!
Apparently you don’t understand how probation works or what the word means?
She wasn’t locked up for not doing homework. She was locked up for violating her probation agreement.
It’s a pretty simple concept.
I’m sending you back to the Remedial Forum till you can get a better handle on basic english and adult concepts.
Re: US black children arrested for not doing homework
Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:05 am
by saxitoxin
If her homework were Common Core curriculum and she refused to do it, Dronocrats would be demanding she be put to death and her Twitter account suspended, in that order.
But because it's just normal mathematics, she's a victim of systemic racism who is the spiritual love child of Rosa Parks and Aunt Jemima.
Re: US black children arrested for not doing homework
Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 3:39 am
by mrswdk
Dukasaur wrote:
mrswdk wrote:She was on probation, therefore locking her up for two months in response to her not doing her homework during the middle of a global pandemic is her own fault! Lock her up! Lock her up!
Don't be an idiot. Probation terms are probation terms. If you agree to serve a probation, you agree to the terms, which usually involve being on your best behaviour. For adults, that usually includes going to work (if employed) or actively seeking work (if unemployed.) Doing your schoolwork is just the juvenile equivalent of an adult going to work.
It's the Franz Kafka approach to probation:
1 - tell adult to go to their job at Starbucks every day as a condition of their probation 2 - COVID pandemic leads to adult being sent home from job at Starbucks because the store is closed 3 - arrest adult for not going to job at Starbucks
What jdizzle and others would expect to see happen at step 4 probably depends on the skin colour and family wealth of the adult.
Re: US black children arrested for not doing homework
Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 3:50 am
by riskllama
doing her homework whilst being in the middle of a worldwide pandemic & basically being confined to her house already, i think she could've found the time to do her homework & still had ample opportunity to follow her leisurely pursuits, as well. epic fail, mrs...
Re: US black children arrested for not doing homework
Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 3:56 am
by mrswdk
From the article:
Fellow students and her teachers at Groves High School, in the Detroit suburb of Beverly Hills, came out in her support at a rally on Thursday, and several thousand people have signed online petitions calling for her release.
"A lot of people were behind on their work this semester, no one had motivation to do anything because the teachers weren't teaching and we were all online. I know so many people that didn't do their homework," 18-year-old student Prudence Canter told Reuters news agency.
Social studies teacher Geoff Wickersham told Reuters: "It didn't seem like the judge or the caseworker knew how grades and due dates and things were structured during the pandemic shutdown in the spring. I think this is a huge injustice."
When it comes to deciding whether her response to the pandemic was reasonable and understandable, I'll take the views of her fellow students and teachers over jim and jdizzle's insane ranting.
Re: US black children arrested for not doing homework
Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 12:12 pm
by riskllama
LOL, i guess complying w/her orders of probation wasn't quite enough to motivate herself from staying out of the clink...*shrugs*. i expect she has plenty of time to finish it up now.
Re: US black children arrested for not doing homework
Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2020 5:07 am
by mrswdk
A US judge is considering assault charges against a US couple after they armed themselves with guns in response to dozens of protesters breaking into their property.
Given that under US law you can apparently be charged with assaulting someone you never came within 20 meters of, you'll forgive me for not reading too much into the 'assault' charge faced by the girl we're discussing in this thread. The original arrest was probably for no more than 'looking at officers in an offensively black way'.
Re: US black children arrested for not doing homework
Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2020 11:52 am
by Jdsizzleslice
mrswdk wrote:A US judge is considering assault charges against a US couple after they armed themselves with guns in response to dozens of protesters breaking into their property.
Given that under US law you can apparently be charged with assaulting someone you never came within 20 meters of, you'll forgive me for not reading too much into the 'assault' charge faced by the girl we're discussing in this thread. The original arrest was probably for no more than 'looking at officers in an offensively black way'.
Ah yes, because you were there and are able to testify in defense of the accused girl that she did in fact NOT assault someone.
Propaganda machine mrswdk. When will you ever learn.
Re: US black children arrested for not doing homework
Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2020 3:35 pm
by mrswdk
Jdsizzleslice wrote:
mrswdk wrote:A US judge is considering assault charges against a US couple after they armed themselves with guns in response to dozens of protesters breaking into their property.
Given that under US law you can apparently be charged with assaulting someone you never came within 20 meters of, you'll forgive me for not reading too much into the 'assault' charge faced by the girl we're discussing in this thread. The original arrest was probably for no more than 'looking at officers in an offensively black way'.
Ah yes, because you were there and are able to testify in defense of the accused girl that she did in fact NOT assault someone.
Propaganda machine mrswdk. When will you ever learn.
I'm saying that in the US, 'girl charged with assault'' is pretty meaningless and tells us nothing about the gravity of what she did. It could mean she headbutted someone unconscious, it might just meant she scowled aggressively. Given she's black it probably just means she sweated on a white girl.
Re: US black children arrested for not doing homework
Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2020 3:40 pm
by riskllama
why don't you find out what she actually did then, mrs?
Re: US black children arrested for not doing homework
Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2020 3:45 pm
by mrswdk
How? As a minor her identity isn't public.
So we go back to my original point: her classmates and teachers (i.e. the people in the best position to comment on her conduct) all say this punishment is an overzealous witch hunt.
Re: US black children arrested for not doing homework
Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2020 3:50 pm
by riskllama
i'm sure you could find out some choice details if you were to apply yourself, mrs...
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 9:47 am
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