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Security Council 2021-2022

PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2020 3:28 am
by saxitoxin
Three (3) countries are running for two (2) slots in the 2021-2022 term as rotational members of the UN Security Council representing "Western Europe and Other" -

Canada
Campaign flyer: https://www.international.gc.ca/campaig ... snu-en.pdf

Ireland
Campaign flyer: https://www.dfa.ie/media/dfa/ourrolepol ... y-2018.pdf

Norway
Campaign flyer: https://www.regjeringen.no/globalassets ... yer_un.pdf

The two selected will join the following current members:
- USA (permanent)
- UK (permanent)
- France (permanent)
- China (permanent)
- Russia (permanent)
- Niger
- Tunisia
- South Africa
- Vietnam
- Indonesia
- Estonia
- Saint Vincent and the Grenadines
- Dominican Republic

Re: Security Council 2021-2022

PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2020 4:16 am
by mrswdk
Ireland is the only one of these three that can be trusted not to behave as a slavish US lapdog. Therefore I have voted for Republic of Ireland.

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Re: Security Council 2021-2022

PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2020 5:05 am
by saxitoxin
mrswdk wrote:Ireland is the only one of these three that can be trusted not to behave as a slavish US lapdog. Therefore I have voted for Republic of Ireland.


But they would never make it to the UNSC meetings.

And NO, that's not a set-up to some RACIST Irish joke like "because they'd be hungover." So disabuse yourself of that notion right now.





I mean they'd never make it to the meetings because Irishmen can't read.

Re: Security Council 2021-2022

PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2020 9:45 am
by 2dimes
Taters!

Re: Security Council 2021-2022

PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2020 11:57 am
by Mr_Adams
Always surprises me when Canada isn't a permanent seat on these things already...

Re: Security Council 2021-2022

PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2020 2:00 pm
by mookiemcgee
mrswdk wrote:Ireland is the only one of these three that can be trusted not to behave as a slavish US lapdog. Therefore I have voted for Republic of Ireland.

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I'm surprised you didn't pick Canada since China have basically bought Canada on lay-away. We are what 20 years away from Xi being printed on their money instead of England's queen?

(I offer no evidence for these extraordinary claims)

Re: Security Council 2021-2022

PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2020 3:09 pm
by Dukasaur
mookiemcgee wrote:
mrswdk wrote:Ireland is the only one of these three that can be trusted not to behave as a slavish US lapdog. Therefore I have voted for Republic of Ireland.

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I'm surprised you didn't pick Canada since China have basically bought Canada on lay-away. We are what 20 years away from Xi being printed on their money instead of England's queen?

(I offer no evidence for these extraordinary claims)


Good, because you'd be wrong.

It's true that vast swaths of Canadian holdings are held by Chinese people, but these are for the most part Hong Kong millionaires and the like, who do not trust the central government and are looking for a nice escape square. They are no more in favour of the CCP than your or I. The Canadian relationship with the CCP government in Peking used to be fairly good, but has been declining steadily at least since the TPP began taking shape. The decline accelerated with the Meng Wanzhou arrest, again with the affair of the Two Michaels, again due to Covid, again due to the Hong Kong repression . Right now Sino-Canadian relations are probably at their lowest point since the end of the Korean War.

Re: Security Council 2021-2022

PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2020 3:14 pm
by mookiemcgee
I totally trolled Duk just now! do i get a prize?

Re: Security Council 2021-2022

PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2020 7:01 pm
by saxitoxin
mookiemcgee wrote:I'm surprised you didn't pick Canada since China have basically bought Canada on lay-away. We are what 20 years away from Xi being printed on their money instead of England's queen?

(I offer no evidence for these extraordinary claims)


There's plenty of it available, though. British Columbia is basically China's 24th province -

    ... CSIS director Richard Fadden told CBC News some municipal officials and cabinet ministers from two unnamed provinces, are being influenced by foreign governments. Fadden then hinted China was one of the countries wielding influence. That position is backed up by Michel Juneau-Katsuya, a former head of Asia Pacific Affairs for CSIS in the 1990s, who is now the president of the Northgate Group, a private firm specializing in corporate security intelligence. Juneau-Katsuya says China has been doing much more than lobbying politicians in B.C. for years in order to influence government decisions. "There is direct evidence that there is much more than just lobbying. There is evidence that CSIS has collected that B.C. officials had been compromised, sometimes with their knowledge, occasionally without their knowledge," he said. [CBC]

    ... When a group of seven Vancouver-area mayors landed in Beijing in April 2007, they believed they were in China to study eco-friendly development and build trade ties for British Columbia. But an investigation by Global News raises questions about whether the Canadian mayors were unwittingly drawn into an influence campaign aimed at improving perceptions of China and reducing criticism of human rights abuses. [Global]

Re: Security Council 2021-2022

PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2020 7:18 pm
by riskllama
a few weeks back, i was walking by one of the two chinese restaurants in town & saw a good sized rat on top of one of the freezers... :?

Re: Security Council 2021-2022

PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2020 7:49 pm
by saxitoxin
riskllama wrote:a few weeks back, i was walking by one of the two chinese restaurants in town & saw a good sized rat on top of one of the freezers... :?


I thought Joe Biden was in Delaware?

Re: Security Council 2021-2022

PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2020 8:04 pm
by 2dimes
What are we talking about when you say big, like a nine pounder?

Re: Security Council 2021-2022

PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2020 8:08 pm
by riskllama
didn't say big, i said it was a good size...

Re: Security Council 2021-2022

PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2020 8:31 pm
by 2dimes
Well, looks like I filtered that into big.

What is a good size?

Re: Security Council 2021-2022

PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2020 8:38 pm
by riskllama
i dunno. a handful, maybe?

Re: Security Council 2021-2022

PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2020 8:45 pm
by 2dimes
So which restaurant is the best one?

Re: Security Council 2021-2022

PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2020 8:54 pm
by riskllama
they are both crap, tbh...

Re: Security Council 2021-2022

PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2020 9:41 pm
by 2dimes
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Re: Security Council 2021-2022

PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2020 2:28 am
by jonesthecurl
2dimes wrote:Taters!


You just had to chip in, didn't you?

Re: Security Council 2021-2022

PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2020 5:42 am
by 2dimes
jonesthecurl wrote:
2dimes wrote:Taters!


You just had to chip in, didn't you?


Have you ordered chips and received something you did not expect?

Back around 1992 my pal's brother was in Washington state in a diner getting a sandwich that came with a side of chips.

It was before poutine had caught on but.. at that time it was stil somewhat common in Canada to order chips with gravy.

So he asked if he could get gravy on his chips. The waitress was confused and there was some discussion to make sure that was what he wanted. He insisted that it was normal in Canada to get "chips with gravy".

She brought him a plate, on it was a sandwich with, chips covered in gravy.

Re: Security Council 2021-2022

PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2020 12:22 pm
by mookiemcgee
2dimes wrote:
jonesthecurl wrote:
2dimes wrote:Taters!


You just had to chip in, didn't you?


Have you ordered chips and received something you did not expect?

Back around 1992 my pal's brother was in Washington state in a diner getting a sandwich that came with a side of chips.

It was before poutine had caught on but.. at that time it was stil somewhat common in Canada to order chips with gravy.

So he asked if he could get gravy on his chips. The waitress was confused and there was some discussion to make sure that was what he wanted. He insisted that it was normal in Canada to get "chips with gravy".

She brought him a plate, on it was a sandwich with, chips covered in gravy.


wait... BEFORE POUNTINE CAUGHT ON.... is it a new phenomenon? I thought it was one of Canada's oldest traditions, like fishing and the name Gordon?

Re: Security Council 2021-2022

PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2020 1:17 pm
by riskllama
i'd say it caught on up here nationally sometime in the 90's, mook...best guess.

Re: Security Council 2021-2022

PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2020 3:38 pm
by 2dimes
Sounds about right. Now you can get it at most places including the arches.