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Pack Rat wrote:if it quacks like a duck and walk like a duck, it's still fascism
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betiko wrote:he's out?
Pack Rat wrote:if it quacks like a duck and walk like a duck, it's still fascism
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Dukasaur wrote:The Democrats just signed their own death warrant.
Dukasaur wrote:The Democrats just signed their own death warrant.
Dukasaur wrote: That was the night I broke into St. Mike's Cathedral and shat on the Archibishop's desk
mrswdk wrote:From the outside Bernie just looks like Democrat Trump. Why wouldn't he do well? The polls have Bernie comfortably beating Trump in a 2020 race:
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epoll ... -6250.html
Pack Rat wrote:if it quacks like a duck and walk like a duck, it's still fascism
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saxitoxin wrote:mrswdk wrote:From the outside Bernie just looks like Democrat Trump. Why wouldn't he do well? The polls have Bernie comfortably beating Trump in a 2020 race:
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epoll ... -6250.html
doesn't matter b/c voters don't elect the president, the College of Electors does ... and Trump is looking good in the states he needs to win like Florida, New Hampshire, Iowa, Arizona, Ohio, Pennsylvania - LET'S BURN THIS BITCH TO THE GROUND!!!
what,me worry? wrote:
Literally, a vote for Trump is a vote for global instability
Pack Rat wrote:if it quacks like a duck and walk like a duck, it's still fascism
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saxitoxin wrote:what,me worry? wrote:
Literally, a vote for Trump is a vote for global instability
While that line may fool a Democrat, it won't fool a Libyan
what,me worry? wrote:saxitoxin wrote:what,me worry? wrote:
Literally, a vote for Trump is a vote for global instability
While that line may fool a Democrat, it won't fool a Libyan
Cute.
Dukasaur wrote:what,me worry? wrote:saxitoxin wrote:what,me worry? wrote:
Literally, a vote for Trump is a vote for global instability
While that line may fool a Democrat, it won't fool a Libyan
Cute.
So you've succeeded in blowing up some more of the world. How is that a selling point?
Pack Rat wrote:if it quacks like a duck and walk like a duck, it's still fascism
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betiko wrote:I liked this buttplug guy, sounds like a good VP for Biden? he'd make a great VP for sure.
saxitoxin wrote:Dukasaur wrote:what,me worry? wrote:saxitoxin wrote:what,me worry? wrote:
Literally, a vote for Trump is a vote for global instability
While that line may fool a Democrat, it won't fool a Libyan
Cute.
So you've succeeded in blowing up some more of the world. How is that a selling point?
UMMM, Trump never ordered a single bomb dropped on Libya. Obama ordered 923 bombs dropped on Libya.
Libya was a stable and prosperous nation. It is now a bombed-out basketcase carved up and ruled by rival warlords.
"Literally, a vote for Trump is a vote for global instability" ... indeed
The ram wrote:betiko wrote:I liked this buttplug guy, sounds like a good VP for Biden? he'd make a great VP for sure.
I know your bird flew the nest but there's plenty more out there
what,me worry? wrote:saxitoxin wrote:Dukasaur wrote:what,me worry? wrote:saxitoxin wrote:what,me worry? wrote:
Literally, a vote for Trump is a vote for global instability
While that line may fool a Democrat, it won't fool a Libyan
Cute.
So you've succeeded in blowing up some more of the world. How is that a selling point?
UMMM, Trump never ordered a single bomb dropped on Libya. Obama ordered 923 bombs dropped on Libya.
Libya was a stable and prosperous nation. It is now a bombed-out basketcase carved up and ruled by rival warlords.
"Literally, a vote for Trump is a vote for global instability" ... indeed
I'll go ahead and take the ban hit for the forum:
You're being a disingenuous cunt and I hope karma catches up to you
betiko wrote:With no real democratic structure, those things don't happen by themselves.
mrswdk wrote:betiko wrote:With no real democratic structure, those things don't happen by themselves.
They also don't happen overnight. The first 100-150 years that the UK had an elected parliament, voting was restricted to a tiny group of rich landed gentry and there was a constant tug-of-war between a royal family trying to restore absolute monarchy and reformers trying to expand direct democratic participation. The UK Government was also pretty repressive towards political dissent for a long time before it adopted the laissez-faire approach it takes today.
You can't just scrunch a country's exiting government up, shove a totally different one into its place and expect that to work well. And to be honest I think the US Government is well aware of this; when was the last time it intervened to topple a dictator or oppressive leader in a country that didn't have strategic importance to the US?
betiko wrote:mrswdk wrote:betiko wrote:With no real democratic structure, those things don't happen by themselves.
They also don't happen overnight. The first 100-150 years that the UK had an elected parliament, voting was restricted to a tiny group of rich landed gentry and there was a constant tug-of-war between a royal family trying to restore absolute monarchy and reformers trying to expand direct democratic participation. The UK Government was also pretty repressive towards political dissent for a long time before it adopted the laissez-faire approach it takes today.
You can't just scrunch a country's exiting government up, shove a totally different one into its place and expect that to work well. And to be honest I think the US Government is well aware of this; when was the last time it intervened to topple a dictator or oppressive leader in a country that didn't have strategic importance to the US?
well, in France it kind of happened "overnight", even if after that we've had two emperors/dictators, a return of the monarchy... and we now have a 5th republic going on since De Gaulle
Dukasaur wrote:Saxi posted a pictorial series bragging noting about how your country Obama successfully blew apart another country and destabilized the region.
Pack Rat wrote:if it quacks like a duck and walk like a duck, it's still fascism
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mrswdk wrote:betiko wrote:mrswdk wrote:betiko wrote:With no real democratic structure, those things don't happen by themselves.
They also don't happen overnight. The first 100-150 years that the UK had an elected parliament, voting was restricted to a tiny group of rich landed gentry and there was a constant tug-of-war between a royal family trying to restore absolute monarchy and reformers trying to expand direct democratic participation. The UK Government was also pretty repressive towards political dissent for a long time before it adopted the laissez-faire approach it takes today.
You can't just scrunch a country's exiting government up, shove a totally different one into its place and expect that to work well. And to be honest I think the US Government is well aware of this; when was the last time it intervened to topple a dictator or oppressive leader in a country that didn't have strategic importance to the US?
well, in France it kind of happened "overnight", even if after that we've had two emperors/dictators, a return of the monarchy... and we now have a 5th republic going on since De Gaulle
After the French Revolution and founding of the First Republic, France saw multiple coups and violent uprisings and spent something like 85 of the next 100 years ruled by either a military dictator or a restored king. I don't think you get to count the revolution as a successful overnight transition from monarchy to republicanism.
Luckily for France the UK was on hand to repeatedly defeat the French dictators (Napoleon and Hitler) in battle, using the UK's superior tactics, firepower and backbone.
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