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Imagine being Blind in a Silent Electric Car world

PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2020 2:49 am
by NomadPatriot
Blind people in society rely on their other senses.. mainly sound, in order to be able to move within society ..
with the new silent genre of vehicles being released, this will potentially cause a massive strain and fear within the Blind community.

would they make an invisible car no one could see..?
like say... a car that drives at night without headlights......

that is basically what they are doing to the Blind community..

try this. go stand on a sidewalk close you eyes and listen to vehicles driving by.. then try to guesstimate when would be the best time to cross the street with your eyes closed...


Re: Imagine being Blind in a Silent Electric Car world

PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2020 9:28 am
by riskllama
nah. but you go ahead, NP & be sure to report your findings.

Re: Imagine being Blind in a Silent Electric Car world

PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2020 9:58 am
by mrswdk
Does NoProblem think that blind people edge their way slowly across busy roads, working out exactly where they need to stand by listening the chorus of sounds that surrounds them?

Re: Imagine being Blind in a Silent Electric Car world

PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2020 11:56 am
by NomadPatriot
mrswdk wrote:Does NoProblem think that blind people edge their way slowly across busy roads, working out exactly where they need to stand by listening the chorus of sounds that surrounds them?


ignorance must be bliss.....

Re: Imagine being Blind in a Silent Electric Car world

PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2020 12:01 pm
by jonesthecurl
Do we have to ban bicycles then?

Re: Imagine being Blind in a Silent Electric Car world

PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2020 12:35 pm
by mookiemcgee
mrswdk wrote:Does NoProblem think that blind people edge their way slowly across busy roads, working out exactly where they need to stand by listening the chorus of sounds that surrounds them?

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Re: Imagine being Blind in a Silent Electric Car world

PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2020 12:42 pm
by mrswdk
mookiemcgee wrote:
mrswdk wrote:Does NoProblem think that blind people edge their way slowly across busy roads, working out exactly where they need to stand by listening the chorus of sounds that surrounds them?

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You've got to have a Jamaican if you're going to chase the funding. 'Elf and Safety, innit?

Re: Imagine being Blind in a Silent Electric Car world

PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2020 3:38 pm
by tzor
NomadPatriot wrote:Blind people in society rely on their other senses.. mainly sound, in order to be able to move within society ..


I believe Japan has already required a noise system for electric cars. It might be ironic that future "electric" cars might be noisier than some modern gas engines at pedestrian speeds.
In addition, by the time this happens, most cars will automatically stop on their own.

Re: Imagine being Blind in a Silent Electric Car world

PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2020 5:03 pm
by mrswdk
tzor wrote:
NomadPatriot wrote:Blind people in society rely on their other senses.. mainly sound, in order to be able to move within society ..


I believe Japan has already required a noise system for electric cars.


Yes, they fit them with speakers that play petrol motor sounds.

Re: Imagine being Blind in a Silent Electric Car world

PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2020 5:15 pm
by Dukasaur
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_flag_traffic_laws

I like the one that requires the driver to "immediately and as rapidly as possible ... disassemble the automobile".

Re: Imagine being Blind in a Silent Electric Car world

PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2020 9:00 pm
by NomadPatriot
Dukasaur wrote:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_flag_traffic_laws

I like the one that requires the driver to "immediately and as rapidly as possible ... disassemble the automobile".


because reading the entire paragraph on the link you provided must have been too hard for you... ducky

--> regarding events that were happening in 1894 & the driver of a horse & carriage

last sentence " The law never took effect...."

Re: Imagine being Blind in a Silent Electric Car world

PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2020 9:03 pm
by Dukasaur
NomadPatriot wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_flag_traffic_laws

I like the one that requires the driver to "immediately and as rapidly as possible ... disassemble the automobile".


because reading the entire paragraph on the link you provided must have been too hard for you... ducky

--> regarding events that were happening in 1894 & the driver of a horse & carriage

last sentence " The law never took effect...."


I said I liked it. I didn't say it took effect.

It paints a pretty picture.. guy sees a cow up ahead, jumps up and starts feverishly stripping down his car and hiding the pieces behind a bush.

Almost a Benny Hill episode!

Re: Imagine being Blind in a Silent Electric Car world

PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2020 9:05 pm
by NomadPatriot
tzor wrote:
NomadPatriot wrote:Blind people in society rely on their other senses.. mainly sound, in order to be able to move within society ..


I believe Japan has already required a noise system for electric cars. It might be ironic that future "electric" cars might be noisier than some modern gas engines at pedestrian speeds.
In addition, by the time this happens, most cars will automatically stop on their own.


countries ae trying to address the problem.. just seems like car companies would realize he problem & be proactive...

New law to tackle electric cars’ silent menace to pedestrians

Research shows electric cars are about 40% more likely to hit a pedestrian than a conventional vehicle. One study suggests that 93% of blind and partially sighted people have had problems with them. “It is a really important issue,” said White. “Guide dogs are all about giving people confidence and independence and a near miss or an incident with a vehicle of this type could really set people back a long way.”
In Japan there was a national outcry when a guide dog and its owner were killed by a reversing non-electric vehicle whose driver had used a pause control to deactivate its sound emitter.

The new standards, which in Europe will be introduced via an EU directive, will require activation by default when the vehicle is on.
About 140,000 electric vehicles are now registered in Britain compared with just 3,500 in 2013. By 2030 the National Grid predicts there could be as many as 9 million electric vehicles on Britain’s roads.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/may/06/new-law-combats-silent-menace-electric-cars

Re: Imagine being Blind in a Silent Electric Car world

PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2020 9:08 pm
by NomadPatriot
Dukasaur wrote:
It paints a pretty picture.. guy sees a cow up ahead, jumps up and starts feverishly stripping down his car and hiding the pieces behind a bush.

Almost a Benny Hill episode!


good gosh.. you just referenced Benny Hill.. a 1960's tv series...

ok.. grandpa
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Imagine being Blind in a Silent Electric Car world

PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2020 9:11 pm
by Dukasaur
NomadPatriot wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:
It paints a pretty picture.. guy sees a cow up ahead, jumps up and starts feverishly stripping down his car and hiding the pieces behind a bush.

Almost a Benny Hill episode!


good gosh.. you just referenced Benny Hill.. a 1960's tv series...

ok.. grandpa
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Benny Hill stayed in reruns well into the 80's, maybe even the 90's.

The old that is strong does not wither.

Re: Imagine being Blind in a Silent Electric Car world

PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2020 11:37 pm
by NomadPatriot
Dukasaur wrote:
NomadPatriot wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:
It paints a pretty picture.. guy sees a cow up ahead, jumps up and starts feverishly stripping down his car and hiding the pieces behind a bush.

Almost a Benny Hill episode!


good gosh.. you just referenced Benny Hill.. a 1960's tv series...

ok.. grandpa
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Benny Hill stayed in reruns well into the 80's, maybe even the 90's.

The old that is strong does not wither.


at last we know you kept watching it..
:?

Re: Imagine being Blind in a Silent Electric Car world

PostPosted: Wed Feb 05, 2020 12:38 am
by jonesthecurl
Dukasaur wrote:
NomadPatriot wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:
It paints a pretty picture.. guy sees a cow up ahead, jumps up and starts feverishly stripping down his car and hiding the pieces behind a bush.

Almost a Benny Hill episode!


good gosh.. you just referenced Benny Hill.. a 1960's tv series...

ok.. grandpa
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Benny Hill stayed in reruns well into the 80's, maybe even the 90's.

The old that is strong does not wither.


I arrived in the US in 2006 and they were still showing Benny Hill, Feck knows why.

Re: Imagine being Blind in a Silent Electric Car world

PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 7:50 pm
by jimboston
Not for nothing, but the sound of cars is helpful to bike riders.

It’s also helpful to me on some of the roads in my neighborhood which have no sidewalks.
When I am walking the dog I use the car sounds to determine if I should let her run ahead on the leash or reel her closer.

Re: Imagine being Blind in a Silent Electric Car world

PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 12:03 am
by hotfire
Does no one understand that tires and brakes make noise. I hear a truck's tires well before its engine on the highway. And if they have mud tires from literally miles away.

The simple solution: mud tires on electrics. I will need a consultation fee from whomever is implementing this.

Re: Imagine being Blind in a Silent Electric Car world

PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 9:33 am
by NomadPatriot
hotfire wrote:Does no one understand that tires and brakes make noise. I hear a truck's tires well before its engine on the highway. And if they have mud tires from literally miles away.

The simple solution: mud tires on electrics. I will need a consultation fee from whomever is implementing this.


well since pedestrians are not legally allowed to walk down the side of a highway, your point seems mute...
pretty sure the general subject matter here involves Urban & Suburban streets that have sidewalks with smooth roads, vehicles with regular tires & well maintained braking systems that don't screech.. ..

but I am sure your blind neighbor is thankful your muddin' '98 Durango scratches itself to a slow crawl as it drives over the speed bumps in your trailer park next to the sex toy shop/ mcdonald's off highway 44 ….

Re: Imagine being Blind in a Silent Electric Car world

PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 12:04 pm
by KoolBak
MUTE: Speechless. Silent. Etc.

MOOT: subject to debate, dispute, or uncertainty

DUMBASS: NP

Arent most crosswalk signals noise emitting now? Be interested to see a stat showing how many sightless folks are being run down by electric cars. And electric mass transit. And moose. :roll:

Re: Imagine being Blind in a Silent Electric Car world

PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 12:47 pm
by NomadPatriot
KoolBak wrote:MUTE: Speechless. Silent. Etc.

MOOT: subject to debate, dispute, or uncertainty

DUMBASS: NP

Arent most crosswalk signals noise emitting now? Be interested to see a stat showing how many sightless folks are being run down by electric cars. And electric mass transit. And moose. :roll:


some people get stuck in high school educations..

mute
MUTE, STANDING MUTE, practice, crim. law. When a prisoner upon his arraignment totally refuses to answer, insists upon mere frivolous pretences, or refuses to put himself upon the country, after pleading not guilty, he is said to stand mute.

synonyms:
silent · speechless · dumb · unspeaking · wordless · voiceless · tongue-tied · at a loss for words · tight-lipped · close-mouthed · taciturn · uncommunicative · mum ·

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arent....?

oh you meant - Arrent

--> : to let or farm out at a rent
specifically : to permit the enclosure of (forestlands) with a low hedge and a ditch under a yearly rent

Re: Imagine being Blind in a Silent Electric Car world

PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 12:52 pm
by nietzsche
dont have kids NP.

Re: Imagine being Blind in a Silent Electric Car world

PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 1:06 pm
by NomadPatriot
nietzsche wrote:dont have kids NP.


i'm a guy.. impossible for men to have kids... we have no womb

Re: Imagine being Blind in a Silent Electric Car world

PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 1:55 pm
by riskllama
*you’re