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The Communist - "On Trial"

Postby tzor on Tue Dec 17, 2019 9:48 am

Oh wait, that's a type on the topic, "The Economist." Sorry my bad ... NOT. ARTICLE HERE

Oh my God, how did I ever get this globalist drivel mailed to me in the first place. I wouldn't give this trash to my parrot (fortunately I don't own a parrot).

Now you are going to have to give these bastards money to read the article. (This is a sure sign of a globalist bastard. Real news people give real news for FREE. You won't see Reuters behind a paywall.) So I'll quote from my hard copy.

"The main facts are not in dispute. Mr. Trump ordered $391m of military aid to be temporarily withheld from Ukraine which is fighting a Russian-backed uprising."

Notice the wonderful attempt at framing. Of all the history of Ukraine military aid the only context with this sentence is the link to "Russia" (the original bogyman after Clinton lost the election which led to the infamous "pee" document that allowed for unprecedented FISA warrant abuse). Notice that the reason why the aid was held up, that context was never mentioned.

THE HILL 9/24/19 "President Trump on Tuesday confirmed that he withheld funds from Ukraine amid growing furor over his interactions with the country, arguing he did so because he wanted European nations to contribute more to the cause."

The article from The Communist Economist (there, I did it again) goes down hill from there. Democrats, the ones who have thrown every tradition of impeachment and due process aside to produce a mockery of sham hearings where the leaker (he hardly qualifies for a whistle blower) are always on the side of right and the Republicans ... well let me quote again. "The Democrats are right. The Republican refusal to take any allegations against Mr. Trump has been contemptible."

I'll tell you what's contemptible. An attempt since even before Trump took the oath of office to find any excuse to impeach him and reverse the 2016 election. This isn't new and not unique to the United States. They are trying to throw the Prime Minster of Israel through the courts. They are just starting to do the same thing they did in the United States to the winner of the recent elections in Great Britain. Democracy, as we are learning among the elites, only counts when it supports the positions of the elites (otherwise the United Kingdom would have left the EU years ago). Slimy rags like this only supply misleading news to "useful idiots."

One last point is the image ... you think it's a little slanted?

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Re: The Communist - "On Trial"

Postby mrswdk on Tue Dec 17, 2019 9:56 am

tzor wrote:They are just starting to do the same thing they did in the United States to the winner of the recent elections in Great Britain.


Are they?

Democracy, as we are learning among the elites, only counts when it supports the positions of the elites (otherwise the United Kingdom would have left the EU years ago).


Agree with this though.

People who buy into the 'hurr durr no elections in China therefore our government better' propaganda are kidding themselves.
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Re: The Communist - "On Trial"

Postby Dukasaur on Tue Dec 17, 2019 10:26 am

I'll defer to Occam's Razor.

It might be that the Democrats, the media, the FBI, the entire Diplomatic Corps, and God-knows who else have cooked up this incredibly complex scheme to make Trump look like a self-serving crook.

Or it could just be that Trump is a self-serving crook and doesn't need any help.
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Re: The Communist - "On Trial"

Postby spurgistan on Tue Dec 17, 2019 12:12 pm

tzor wrote:Oh wait, that's a type on the topic, "The Economist." Sorry my bad ... NOT. ARTICLE HERE

Oh my God, how did I ever get this globalist drivel mailed to me in the first place. I wouldn't give this trash to my parrot (fortunately I don't own a parrot).

Now you are going to have to give these bastards money to read the article. (This is a sure sign of a globalist bastard. Real news people give real news for FREE. You won't see Reuters behind a paywall.) So I'll quote from my hard copy.

"The main facts are not in dispute. Mr. Trump ordered $391m of military aid to be temporarily withheld from Ukraine which is fighting a Russian-backed uprising."

Notice the wonderful attempt at framing. Of all the history of Ukraine military aid the only context with this sentence is the link to "Russia" (the original bogyman after Clinton lost the election which led to the infamous "pee" document that allowed for unprecedented FISA warrant abuse). Notice that the reason why the aid was held up, that context was never mentioned.

THE HILL 9/24/19 "President Trump on Tuesday confirmed that he withheld funds from Ukraine amid growing furor over his interactions with the country, arguing he did so because he wanted European nations to contribute more to the cause."

The article from The Communist Economist (there, I did it again) goes down hill from there. Democrats, the ones who have thrown every tradition of impeachment and due process aside to produce a mockery of sham hearings where the leaker (he hardly qualifies for a whistle blower) are always on the side of right and the Republicans ... well let me quote again. "The Democrats are right. The Republican refusal to take any allegations against Mr. Trump has been contemptible."

I'll tell you what's contemptible. An attempt since even before Trump took the oath of office to find any excuse to impeach him and reverse the 2016 election. This isn't new and not unique to the United States. They are trying to throw the Prime Minster of Israel through the courts. They are just starting to do the same thing they did in the United States to the winner of the recent elections in Great Britain. Democracy, as we are learning among the elites, only counts when it supports the positions of the elites (otherwise the United Kingdom would have left the EU years ago). Slimy rags like this only supply misleading news to "useful idiots."

One last point is the image ... you think it's a little slanted?

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It's the facts, dude. He's admitted to the criming. His cohorts admitted to the criming. The only recourse left for the elites is to argue that criming doesn't matter anymore, which should be news to our millions of prisoners.
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Re: The Communist - "On Trial"

Postby spurgistan on Tue Dec 17, 2019 12:17 pm

Underrated lol from tzor: the party that has controlled Congress for most of the last 25 years,the presidency for 11 out of 19, and the Supreme Court for as long as I know with a near-constant minority of voting Americans are not "the elites."
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Re: The Communist - "On Trial"

Postby NomadPatriot on Tue Dec 17, 2019 1:39 pm

because democrats have tried to impeach 5 out of the last 6 republican presidents …

it's their standard flag flown...
it just never works
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Re: The Communist - "On Trial"

Postby tzor on Tue Dec 17, 2019 3:34 pm

mrswdk wrote:
tzor wrote:They are just starting to do the same thing they did in the United States to the winner of the recent elections in Great Britain.


Are they?


National Review: Fusion GPS Founders Claim U.K. Needs Its Own ‘Mueller Report’ on Russian Interference

Ahead of a Conservative landslide in the British general elections on Thursday, Fusion GPS founders Glenn Simpson and Peter Fritsch — who commissioned the now-debunked Steele dossier — wrote an op-ed in The Guardian arguing that “Britain needs its own Mueller report” to investigate “Russian meddling” in British elections on behalf of the Conservative Party and Brexit.


mrswdk wrote:
Democracy, as we are learning among the elites, only counts when it supports the positions of the elites (otherwise the United Kingdom would have left the EU years ago).


Agree with this though.

People who buy into the 'hurr durr no elections in China therefore our government better' propaganda are kidding themselves.


"Democracy" (also known as two wolves and a lamb having a discussion on what should be on the dinner menu) is an infection that can, if unchecked, sicken most governments. Unfortunately, the democratic movement in the 20th century tended to be contagious as well. (The US fought the "Great War" to make the world "safe" for democracy. The second world war was fought by evil democratically elected nations.) To this end, if you can manipulate a majority to support your position, you can use it as an excuse to impose your will. The U.S. founding fathers were always nervous of "democracy" because it was too easy for the majority to oppress the rights of the minority.
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Re: The Communist - "On Trial"

Postby tzor on Tue Dec 17, 2019 3:44 pm

spurgistan wrote:Underrated lol from tzor: the party that has controlled Congress for most of the last 25 years,the presidency for 11 out of 19, and the Supreme Court for as long as I know with a near-constant minority of voting Americans are not "the elites."


First, there are "elites" on both parties. But's let's consider party control. [ulr=http://cstl-cla.semo.edu/rdrenka/ui320-75/presandcongress.asp]Here[/url] is a list from 1933-2010. There has only been 3 congresses with full Republican control and 17 with full Democrat control. That doesn't include the outsiders who were Democratic presidents, including Kennedy and Carter. Reagan also qualified as an outsider for the Republicans.
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Re: The Communist - "On Trial"

Postby mrswdk on Tue Dec 17, 2019 5:55 pm

tzor wrote:
mrswdk wrote:
tzor wrote:They are just starting to do the same thing they did in the United States to the winner of the recent elections in Great Britain.


Are they?


National Review: Fusion GPS Founders Claim U.K. Needs Its Own ‘Mueller Report’ on Russian Interference


Google says Fusion GPS are some American think tank. Quoting them is like saying the clouds are gathering over Boris's head because the UCLA debating society just passed a motion censuring his handling of Brexit.
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Re: The Communist - "On Trial"

Postby tzor on Wed Dec 18, 2019 10:24 am

mrswdk wrote:Google says Fusion GPS are some American think tank.


They are the ones behind the entire Trump Impeachment process. I'm sure if they start putting shit into Corbyn's hands he will run with it as far as it will take him.
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Re: The Communist - "On Trial"

Postby mrswdk on Wed Dec 18, 2019 11:00 am

Given that the US political system is about the only one on the planet that's more dysfunctional than the UK's right now, you're kidding yourself if you think British people are queuing up to take orders from obscure American political think tanks.
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