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This is the first scientific investigation of the collapse of the building. Here is the conclusion:


“The principal conclusion of our study is that fire did not cause the collapse of WTC 7 on 9/11, contrary to the conclusions of NIST and private engineering firms that studied the collapse. The secondary conclusion of our study is that the collapse of WTC 7 was a global failure involving the near-simultaneous failure of every column in the building.”

Notice three things: (1) it has taken 18 years to get a real investigation of the destruction of a building blamed on Muslim terrorists, (2) the only way “near-simultaneous failure of every column in the building” can occur is through controlled demolition, and (3) this remarkable finding is not reported in the presstitute media.

https://www.sgtreport.com/2019/09/the-o ... -in-ruins/

armati wrote:This is the first scientific investigation

Any evidence for that? The 17 engineers and scientists who worked on the NIST report aren't scientific enough for you? On what grounds? Can you point to anything they said and explain why you're dismissing it as scientific? Not in the words of your tinfoil hat website, but in your own words.

I mean, if you really want to take the word of a failed water-slide salesman over 17 renowned experts, that's okay. It's your right. But if you want us to agree with you, it would be nice if you explained some reasons why we should.

Dukasaur wrote:a failed water-slide salesman

I like how he only accepts donations and financial support in the form of cryptocurrency. Nothing suspect about that at all!

some people are too young.. and didn't watch it happen live.. or have not done any research..

https://www.ae911truth.org/

Personally I find it amusing that some people actually believe "official" stories.
It used to amaze me but since Ive learned how people get brainwashed I expect it.

Funny as heck, people believe stories over their own lying eyes.

Duk,

I really could care less if you can think for yourself or not, I simply posted this as its new info concerning that day.
You like what the gov tells ya, go with that. Not a big deal.

armati wrote:Duk,

I really could care less if you can think for yourself or not, I simply posted this as its new info concerning that day.
You like what the gov tells ya, go with that. Not a big deal.

Think I'm pretty good at thinking for myself.

I'm pretty sure it involves actually looking at the content and analysing it. Assuming that the official version is always wrong is just as blind as thinking that the official version is always right.

Green toes could be a sign of infection.

HitRed wrote:Green toes could be a sign of infection.

I'll see if something can be done.

Dukasaur wrote:

armati wrote:This is the first scientific investigation

Any evidence for that? The 17 engineers and scientists who worked on the NIST report aren't scientific enough for you?

not when over 1,000+ other Engineers & Architects dispute what the government hand picked 17 said happened...
the television video evidence shows exactly what happened.

try watching it.

Duk.................https://www.ae911truth.org/

University Study Finds Fire Did Not Bring Down World Trade Center Building 7 on 9/11

The Soon-to-Be-Released Building 7 Study: Structural Engineers Weigh In

9/11 Breakthroughs on the Horizon: An Interview with Richard Gage and Ted Walter

Building 7 Study to Be Released September 3

Duk, I can tell ur a real deep thinker, especially with that think statue post, kinda proves it.

Maybe try thinkin after you read some facts.
Just an idea.

I mean, since ya dont believe ur own lying eyes.

NomadPatriot wrote:
try watching it.

Been there, done that.

Here's a summary of the various claims the tinfoil hatters make, and refutations of each one. Does a better job summarizing the case than I could do.

https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/a6384/debunking-911-myths-world-trade-center/

Dukasaur wrote:

NomadPatriot wrote:
try watching it.

Been there, done that.

Here's a summary of the various claims the tinfoil hatters make, and refutations of each one. Does a better job summarizing the case than I could do.

https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/a6384/debunking-911-myths-world-trade-center/

I am 100% sure you did some in-depth research about 9/11... .considering you just referenced Popular Mechanics magazine..
( the 1st thing that just popped up in your ' debunk 9/11 ' internet "research" you just did )..

but ok..
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Duks simply trolling, nobody is that clueless.

Hmmm, who to believe?

Armati citing the same Russian he always cites?

Nomad who chose his facts from youtube video's host "AlienScientist" who's recently posted such hits as:
Epstein Faked Suicide & Escaped - Tetrodotoxin and Body Switch!
Is Bob Lazar really telling the truth? (Bob Lazar say's he worked at Area 51 and saw the aliens personally)
Anthony Bourdain "Suicided" by Global Elite? Foul Play? Hillary? Mossad? Pedogate?

Or Duk who sources reputable scientist and the lamestream media.

As an open minded individual I feel I need more info and sources. Mrsdwky where does the chinese gov't fall on the issue of 9/11 as perpetrated by the US Gov't.

mookiemcgee wrote:Hmmm, who to believe?

Armati citing the same Russian he always cites?

Nomad who chose his facts from youtube video's host "AlienScientist" who's recently posted such hits as:
Epstein Faked Suicide & Escaped - Tetrodotoxin and Body Switch!
Is Bob Lazar really telling the truth? (Bob Lazar say's he worked at Area 51 and saw the aliens personally)
Anthony Bourdain "Suicided" by Global Elite? Foul Play? Hillary? Mossad? Pedogate?

Or Duk who sources reputable scientist and the lamestream media.

As an open minded individual I feel I need more info and sources. Mrsdwky where does the chinese gov't fall on the issue of 9/11 as perpetrated by the US Gov't.

I guess Snookie here missed the part where I quoted Larry Silverstein ( the guy who owned the World Trade Center ) . when he stated he was talking to the NYC Fire Chief and told them to 'Pull It".. a term used in Controlled Demolitions to say 'blow up the building'..

NomadPatriot wrote:

mookiemcgee wrote:Hmmm, who to believe?

Armati citing the same Russian he always cites?

Nomad who chose his facts from youtube video's host "AlienScientist" who's recently posted such hits as:
Epstein Faked Suicide & Escaped - Tetrodotoxin and Body Switch!
Is Bob Lazar really telling the truth? (Bob Lazar say's he worked at Area 51 and saw the aliens personally)
Anthony Bourdain "Suicided" by Global Elite? Foul Play? Hillary? Mossad? Pedogate?

Or Duk who sources reputable scientist and the lamestream media.

As an open minded individual I feel I need more info and sources. Mrsdwky where does the chinese gov't fall on the issue of 9/11 as perpetrated by the US Gov't.

I guess Snookie here missed the part where I quoted Larry Silverstein ( the guy who owned the World Trade Center ) . when he stated he was talking to the NYC Fire Chief and told them to 'Pull It".. a term used in Controlled Demolitions to say 'blow up the building'..

Really? It's used in control demolitions? Do you have ANY proof of that claim?

I guess it's my turn to just post a random youtube video without knowing anything about it or it's author simply because it refutes your claim.

mookiemcgee wrote:

NomadPatriot wrote:

mookiemcgee wrote:Hmmm, who to believe?

Armati citing the same Russian he always cites?

Nomad who chose his facts from youtube video's host "AlienScientist" who's recently posted such hits as:
Epstein Faked Suicide & Escaped - Tetrodotoxin and Body Switch!
Is Bob Lazar really telling the truth? (Bob Lazar say's he worked at Area 51 and saw the aliens personally)
Anthony Bourdain "Suicided" by Global Elite? Foul Play? Hillary? Mossad? Pedogate?

Or Duk who sources reputable scientist and the lamestream media.

As an open minded individual I feel I need more info and sources. Mrsdwky where does the chinese gov't fall on the issue of 9/11 as perpetrated by the US Gov't.

I guess Snookie here missed the part where I quoted Larry Silverstein ( the guy who owned the World Trade Center ) . when he stated he was talking to the NYC Fire Chief and told them to 'Pull It".. a term used in Controlled Demolitions to say 'blow up the building'..

Really? It's used in control demolitions? Do you have ANY proof of that claim?

I guess it's my turn to just post a random youtube video without knowing anything about it or it's author simply because it refutes your claim.

pull down
phrasal verb

To pull down a building or statue means to deliberately destroy it.

example in a sentence: "They'd pulled the registry office down which then left an open space." [VERB noun PARTICLE]


https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/pull-down

monkiemcgee

Alot of wondering, maybe clear that up by informing urself?

https://www.ae911truth.org/ Not a Russian site...o well American, but probly spies.

This might satisfy ur Russian cravings

Putin warned Bush about impeding attack TWO DAYS before 9/11 – ex-CIA analyst

I understand its a cia analyst but maybe you can pretend he was a spy too?


https://www.rt.com/news/468133-putin-warned-bush-911/

I actually dont think that ones accurate, they report the terrorists were from afganistan, thats too close to the "official" story for me.
No way do I believe a guy living as a sheep herder can take a few cessna lessons then drive an airliner doing the maneuvers they pulled off.
But thats the "official" story so most people believe it.

Nor do I believe among other things afgany sheep herders can keep american,norad and nato jets grounded, but heck thats the "official" story so I dont blame ya for believing it.

hmmmmm

The building was situated above a Consolidated Edison power substation, which imposed unique structural design constraints....

The collapse made the old 7 World Trade Center the first tall building known to have collapsed primarily due to uncontrolled fires, and at the time, the only steel skyscraper in the world to have collapsed due to fire.

Around 3:30 pm, FDNY Chief Daniel A. Nigro decided to halt rescue operations...There were no casualties associated with the collapse

BBC reports WTC 7 collapsed...BEFORE it collapsed! NEW

https://youtu.be/f0HPqd8dPeE

Fox reports WTC 7 collapse before it happens

https://youtu.be/_EWKtO_xXsk

Building 7 Collapse Compilation

https://youtu.be/vBUSIzaS0ws

I’m open to conspiracy theories... and a lot of what mainstream media (or mainstream history) feeds you is glossed over.
There’s no doubt about this, especially when facts don’t support the story or myth you’re trying create.

A good modern example is Iraq.... Iraq had no weapons of mass destruction, and Iraq was no directly associated with Bin Laden.
Yet the gov’t emphasized evidence that suggested these ideas to be true... and downplayed evidence that opposed this idea.

... but you can find this out by reading legitimate sources of info... you don’t have to go into kooky conspiracy websites to get this info.
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Fuk is absolutely correct in saying that it’s equally absurd to blindly write off gov’t reports as it is to blindly believe them.

You have to look at the the big picture and ask; who benefits, what we’re the goals, what are the risks, is the conspiracy even possible or practical.

The conspiracy ideas for 9/11 fall short in all these regards.
*Tell me... if the gov’t did this, how do they benefit?
*Tell me... who in the gov’t would authorize it and what were the objectives of that person/those people?
*Tell me... how could you hope to execute this and keep it secret? The number of people you’d have to involve is so high that there’s no way it would remain secret.
*Tell me... what are the risks if the public finds out? Aren’t there easier ways to achieve your goals?

They conspiracy just falls short of all these marks.

You 9/11 Conspiracy people need to grow up... either that or go talk to the Moon Landing Deniers.

jimboston wrote:—-

Fuk is absolutely correct in saying that it’s equally absurd to blindly write off gov’t reports as it is to blindly believe them.

his new name is FUK...
thanks jimmy!

jimboston

Interesting questions. Logical.

Not sure how you or anyone can call it a conspiracy theory that a building was reported collapsed prior to the collapse but what the heck.
2 vidoes of tv stations doing exactly that doesnt seem to be enough I guess, ok.

Anyway, you ask who benefits or how did they benefit from 911?

The 911 towers were used as an excuse to invade Iraq, recall weapons of mass destruction?
That was a conspiracy perpetrated by the gov.
Except when the gov does it, its simply called a lie.

War, is the most profitable business known, there were/are many that benefit.

The american people themselves benefit big times with jobs alone.
Obviously the executives benefit bigger and the lobby groups get funded big time too.

Smedly Butler, the highest decorated marine general up to his retirement wrote a book, War is a Racket.
He explains clearly, its all about the money.

These acts are known as "false flags" they are done to start wars, the bay of Tonkin incident is an excellent example.
That one cost over 3 million lives. 58 thousand were american lives.


How can it be hoped to be kept secret?
Can you tell me for sure who murdered JFK? Secrets can be kept.

The "conspiracy" does not fall short of any mark, it has done exactly as was intended.
This includes your loss of privacy, everything you do on a computer,cell phone,financial transaction....all recorded.
It actually takes an effort now to achieve privacy.

911 people need to grow up?

steel can begin to melt, its solidus, is 1,130 °C (2,070 °F). Steel never turns into a liquid below this temperature. Pure Iron ('Steel' with 0% Carbon) starts to melt at 1,492 °C (2,718 °F),
The maximum flame temperature increase for burning hydrocarbons (jet fuel) in air is, thus, about 1,000°C—hardly sufficient to melt steel at 1,500°C.

For further info, altho it contradicts your thinking, https://www.ae911truth.org/
More than 3000 architects and engineers are more than happy to explain it all to you.

3000 fully trained people that kinda know what their talkin about is a pretty big conspiracy theory.
(I find it interesting that people believe tv or what their told to believe over their own eyes) (Just human I guess).

When ya google it, google actually calls it a conspiracy theory, if ur interested research when and where the idea of a conspiracy theory began, sorta interesting too.

Hope I answered a couple of ur questions.