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Posted: **Wed Aug 07, 2019 1:03 pm**

36.4% believe the number of immigrants accepted into Australia is too high or much too high. Check out other stats.

Here are some of the most stunning findings of the survey.
1.31.6% of respondents claimed to have ‘negative’ feelings towards Muslim Australians, 22.4% claimed to have ‘negative’ feelings towards Middle-‐Eastern Australians while only 9% had negative feelings towards Aboriginal Australians.
2.36.4% believe the number of immigrants accepted into Australia is too high or much too high.
3.41.1% believe Australia is weakened by people of different ethnicities sticking to their old ways.
4.20.5% believe that African refugees increase crime in Australia. Men and older participants were more likely to believe that African refugees increase crime.
5.32% of respondents reported having experienced racism within their workplace. 32% of respondents reported having experience racism within an educational facility.
6.Those who belong to a Language Other Than English (LOTE) background reported the highest rates of workplace racism (54.1%) and racism within various educational institutions (55.8%).
7.The experience of racism on public transport or in the street was the highest at 34.1 per cent, followed by at a shop or shopping centre at 32.2 per cent. Online experiences of racism were also quite high at 28.2 per cent.
8.Those of LOTE background experienced the highest rates of discrimination in shops/shopping centres (56.9%), on public transport or in the street (58.2%), and online (49.1%).
9.48.6% believe people from racial, ethnic, cultural and religious minorities groups should behave more like mainstream Australians.
10.54.4% of respondents agreed that Australia should help refugees fleeing persecution in their homeland.43% believe that all boats carrying asylum seekers should be turned back.

https://www.sbs.com.au/yourlanguage/hindi/en/article/2017/02/27/australia-racist-here-are-10-stunning-stats

Posted: **Wed Aug 07, 2019 2:24 pm**

NP in other threads: "I am not a racist for saying I think the US should restrict migration from Latin America"
NP in other threads: "I am not a racist, Omar should be sent back to Somalia because she is a refugee"
NP in this thread: "Australians are racist because they think there are too many immigrants moving to Australia"

Stunning self-checkmate.

=D>

Posted: **Wed Aug 07, 2019 3:12 pm**

mrswdk wrote::lol:

NP in other threads: "I am not a racist for saying I think the US should restrict migration from Latin America"
NP in other threads: "I am not a racist, Omar should be sent back to Somalia because she is a refugee"
NP in this thread: "Australians are racist because they think there are too many immigrants moving to Australia"

Stunning self-checkmate.

why can't you actually quote what I said ?
for some reason you do not..

1) NP in other threads: "I am not a racist for saying I think the US should restrict migration from Latin America" - not racist.. sorry

2) NP in other threads: "I am not a racist, Omar should be sent back to Somalia because she is a refugee" - not racist either.. try again...

3) NP in this thread: "Australians are racist because they think there are too many immigrants moving to Australia" - I didn't say this.. I posted a news article that referenced a survey. .and quoted the stats of that survey..

if you are going to quote someone.. use the quote function.. because otherwise you are just making up Fake Quotes for people to fit your narrative.. if you are going to constantly try to label me a racist. .you should at least once be able to back-up your claims..

sad sad attempt to label me once again..
all you ever do is fail..

Posted: **Wed Aug 07, 2019 4:40 pm**

If you refuse to critically assess your own actions and words then you will never learn and grow.

Start off small. Try some breathing exercises, and maybe begin keeping a mindfulness journal. Little by little you will see the path to self-betterment and inner peace open up before you.

Posted: **Wed Aug 07, 2019 5:44 pm**

mrswdk wrote:If you refuse to critically assess your own actions and words then you will never learn and grow.

Start off small. Try some breathing exercises, and maybe begin keeping a mindfulness journal. Little by little you will see the path to self-betterment and inner peace open up before you.

oh.. so you cannot quote me saying any of those things ..
ok
gotcha..

Posted: **Thu Aug 08, 2019 8:49 am**

The answer to your question is no. But wouldn't you say this is more of an immigration discussion rather than a racist discussion?

I could see these statistics being similar to a poll if it were given in the US.

Posted: **Thu Aug 08, 2019 1:30 pm**

Jdsizzleslice wrote:The answer to your question is no. But wouldn't you say this is more of an immigration discussion rather than a racist discussion?

I could see these statistics being similar to a poll if it were given in the US.

Since when is a lot of opposition to immigrants not expressed rather racistly? You have anti-Irish sentiment followed by anti-Asian sentiment followed by anti-Hispanic sentiment here in the US, roughly tracking when different races (and yes the Irish and Italians weren't considered to be proper white at the time) roughly tracking when different racial groups immigrated to the US.

Posted: **Thu Aug 08, 2019 3:46 pm**

spurgistan wrote:
Jdsizzleslice wrote:The answer to your question is no. But wouldn't you say this is more of an immigration discussion rather than a racist discussion?

I could see these statistics being similar to a poll if it were given in the US.

Since when is a lot of opposition to immigrants not expressed rather racistly? You have anti-Irish sentiment followed by anti-Asian sentiment followed by anti-Hispanic sentiment here in the US, roughly tracking when different races (and yes the Irish and Italians weren't considered to be proper white at the time) roughly tracking when different racial groups immigrated to the US.

It probably happens, but to say that opposition to immigration is rooted in racism is inaccurate.

Posted: **Thu Aug 08, 2019 4:03 pm**

spurgistan wrote:
Jdsizzleslice wrote:The answer to your question is no. But wouldn't you say this is more of an immigration discussion rather than a racist discussion?

I could see these statistics being similar to a poll if it were given in the US.

Since when is a lot of opposition to immigrants not expressed rather racistly? You have anti-Irish sentiment followed by anti-Asian sentiment followed by anti-Hispanic sentiment here in the US, roughly tracking when different races (and yes the Irish and Italians weren't considered to be proper white at the time) roughly tracking when different racial groups immigrated to the US.

being Anti-Immigration does not mean you hate a entire race of people. .

let's use a island as an example..
let's say the island is only 45 square miles total & can only sustain a population of 10,000 people, if tomorrow 250,000 new African immigrants try to move to that island.. should that island close it's borders & refuse entry of those 250,000 African immigrants?
if they do refuse entry of those African immigrants, you would consider that racist.. ?

Posted: **Thu Aug 08, 2019 5:30 pm**

Did Australia just let in 625,000,000 African immigrants growing their population by 2500%?

How about an equally imbalanced hypothetical. What if 1 African immigrant goes to the island with a population of 10,000. Now say that island let in 200 immigrants from Canada three days earlier but they close the border to restrict the access of the african immigrant, the justification given is that the population fears that "the Africans are going to take over our island"... would that be considered racist by you emperor NoClothes? I mean the population is just anti immigration, not racist right?

Posted: **Thu Aug 08, 2019 5:34 pm**

Is it 'racist' to say you don't want Kim Jong Un to drop an atomic bomb on you?

Is it 'racist' to order a black coffee????

Has this liberal world gone crazy?!?!???
Yes!!!

Posted: **Thu Aug 08, 2019 7:08 pm**

no it hasnt gone crazy, its just that we whitness alot racist shit atm.
and its always from the playbook.

1) racists doing racist things
2) racists getting outcalled for doing racist shit
3) racists call in selfdefense everyone else racist (thats what np is trying atm :lol:

)
4) claiming that the word racist lost its meaning

this is how it works......

Posted: **Thu Aug 08, 2019 7:19 pm**

I see no one can answer the question posed.
should be a simple question to answer. ..

why cannot you all answer it..?

--> let's use a island as an example..
let's say the island is only 45 square miles total & can only sustain a population of 10,000 people, if tomorrow 250,000 new African immigrants try to move to that island.. should that island close it's borders & refuse entry of those 250,000 African immigrants?
if they do refuse entry of those African immigrants, you would consider that racist.. ?

only thing I just did was prove my point..

Posted: **Fri Aug 09, 2019 8:17 am**

Jdsizzleslice wrote:
spurgistan wrote:
Jdsizzleslice wrote:The answer to your question is no. But wouldn't you say this is more of an immigration discussion rather than a racist discussion?

I could see these statistics being similar to a poll if it were given in the US.

Since when is a lot of opposition to immigrants not expressed rather racistly? You have anti-Irish sentiment followed by anti-Asian sentiment followed by anti-Hispanic sentiment here in the US, roughly tracking when different races (and yes the Irish and Italians weren't considered to be proper white at the time) roughly tracking when different racial groups immigrated to the US.

It probably happens, but to say that opposition to immigration is rooted in racism is inaccurate.

Well, no, it is, for the reasons I just mentioned. People tend to hate whoever's new. I'm not saying one causes the other, but they're clearly related. It's not like Americans were upset about immigration while it was white northern Europeans moving here.

Posted: **Fri Aug 09, 2019 8:50 am**

spurgistan wrote:
Jdsizzleslice wrote:
spurgistan wrote:
Jdsizzleslice wrote:The answer to your question is no. But wouldn't you say this is more of an immigration discussion rather than a racist discussion?

I could see these statistics being similar to a poll if it were given in the US.

Since when is a lot of opposition to immigrants not expressed rather racistly? You have anti-Irish sentiment followed by anti-Asian sentiment followed by anti-Hispanic sentiment here in the US, roughly tracking when different races (and yes the Irish and Italians weren't considered to be proper white at the time) roughly tracking when different racial groups immigrated to the US.

It probably happens, but to say that opposition to immigration is rooted in racism is inaccurate.

Well, no, it is, for the reasons I just mentioned. People tend to hate whoever's new. I'm not saying one causes the other, but they're clearly related. It's not like Americans were upset about immigration while it was white northern Europeans moving here.

Posted: **Fri Aug 09, 2019 8:53 am**

spurgistan wrote:
Jdsizzleslice wrote:
spurgistan wrote:
Jdsizzleslice wrote:The answer to your question is no. But wouldn't you say this is more of an immigration discussion rather than a racist discussion?

I could see these statistics being similar to a poll if it were given in the US.

Since when is a lot of opposition to immigrants not expressed rather racistly? You have anti-Irish sentiment followed by anti-Asian sentiment followed by anti-Hispanic sentiment here in the US, roughly tracking when different races (and yes the Irish and Italians weren't considered to be proper white at the time) roughly tracking when different racial groups immigrated to the US.

It probably happens, but to say that opposition to immigration is rooted in racism is inaccurate.

Well, no, it is, for the reasons I just mentioned. People tend to hate whoever's new. I'm not saying one causes the other, but they're clearly related. It's not like Americans were upset about immigration while it was white northern Europeans moving here.

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Jdsizzleslice wrote:Blanket statements are almost never true. Like saying all Trump supporters are all racists, or all liberals are crazy, etc...

You are making a blanket statement. If you think any opposition to immigration equals racism, then we cannot continue to have a logical discussion. All opposition is not based off the color of one's skin, or the nationality of that person, or etc.

I am opposed to illegal immigration. Does that make me a racist? According to your logic, it does.

Posted: **Fri Aug 09, 2019 9:05 am**

Jdsizzleslice wrote:
spurgistan wrote:
Jdsizzleslice wrote:
spurgistan wrote:
Jdsizzleslice wrote:The answer to your question is no. But wouldn't you say this is more of an immigration discussion rather than a racist discussion?

I could see these statistics being similar to a poll if it were given in the US.

Since when is a lot of opposition to immigrants not expressed rather racistly? You have anti-Irish sentiment followed by anti-Asian sentiment followed by anti-Hispanic sentiment here in the US, roughly tracking when different races (and yes the Irish and Italians weren't considered to be proper white at the time) roughly tracking when different racial groups immigrated to the US.

It probably happens, but to say that opposition to immigration is rooted in racism is inaccurate.

Well, no, it is, for the reasons I just mentioned. People tend to hate whoever's new. I'm not saying one causes the other, but they're clearly related. It's not like Americans were upset about immigration while it was white northern Europeans moving here.

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Jdsizzleslice wrote:Blanket statements are almost never true. Like saying all Trump supporters are all racists, or all liberals are crazy, etc...

You are making a blanket statement. If you think any opposition to immigration equals racism, then we cannot continue to have a logical discussion. All opposition is not based off the color of one's skin, or the nationality of that person, or etc.

I am opposed to illegal immigration. Does that make me a racist? According to your logic, it does.

it's because Duk thinks Nations are Races..
Duk's Race is Canadian
JD.. to him, your Race is United States of America...

Posted: **Fri Aug 09, 2019 9:20 am**

Just for the record: I said nothing like that.

Posted: **Fri Aug 09, 2019 10:01 am**

Dukasaur wrote:Just for the record: I said nothing like that.

( via another thread...)

-->

Dukasaur wrote:
NomadPatriot wrote:Mexican is a nationality. not a race.

It blows my mind how you constantly trot out this difference between nationality and race as if it meant something.

my bad I meant Duk & Spurgistan..

Posted: **Fri Aug 09, 2019 11:06 am**

NomadPatriot wrote:I see no one can answer the question posed.
should be a simple question to answer. ..

In one sense it is an absurd question (as others have pointed out). No population is designed to support a X fold increase in the population at once. In the first place no population has a point of entry that can support the migration of its entire population at once, never mind a large multiple of that population. Second there is no place to house them once they get there, or feed them even.

So when you get to the actual non absurd numbers (say 10% of the population) the arguments are still valid but people can easily miss the implications of the numbers, especially when immigration is never a "one shot" situation (and 10 years of 10% quickly becomes ... I'm not going to answer that because people will argue about whether I should use compounding or not).

Posted: **Fri Aug 09, 2019 11:14 am**

spurgistan wrote:Since when is a lot of opposition to immigrants not expressed rather racistly? You have anti-Irish sentiment followed by anti-Asian sentiment followed by anti-Hispanic sentiment here in the US, roughly tracking when different races (and yes the Irish and Italians weren't considered to be proper white at the time) roughly tracking when different racial groups immigrated to the US.

Nit pick: Anti-immigrant sentiment to Irish and Italians was based, in large part, because they were "Papists." And while technically WASP isn't considered a race, for all practical purposes it was treated as such during the time of Irish immigration and Italian immigration. Note also that many of the Irish came over because of a deliberate attempt by the Protestant United Kingdom to starve the Irish in the great potato famine.

Heck not even the Germans were immune; it was their beer brewing that led to the efforts of prohibition. Anything that didn't fit proper WASP thinking from the puritans was in one way or another attacked by the anti-immigrant groups.

Posted: **Fri Aug 09, 2019 2:25 pm**

tzor wrote:
NomadPatriot wrote:I see no one can answer the question posed.
should be a simple question to answer. ..

In one sense it is an absurd question (as others have pointed out). No population is designed to support a X fold increase in the population at once. In the first place no population has a point of entry that can support the migration of its entire population at once, never mind a large multiple of that population. Second there is no place to house them once they get there, or feed them even.

So when you get to the actual non absurd numbers (say 10% of the population) the arguments are still valid but people can easily miss the implications of the numbers, especially when immigration is never a "one shot" situation (and 10 years of 10% quickly becomes ... I'm not going to answer that because people will argue about whether I should use compounding or not).

no problem .. if the amount of people requires you to avoid the question.. ok

I will rephrase the question so everyone will stop writing paragraphs explaining why they are refusing to answer it..

--> if there is a island that is 45 square miles & can sustain a population of 10,000 & the current population of that island is 9,200 people..
and let's say 500 immigrants try to come to that island every year.. year after year after year... with no signs of them stopping
should the island refuse those immigrants entry once the hit their sustainability level of 10,000.. ?

and when they do refuse entry to immigrants when they realize they are going to go over their sustainability level... does that make them Racist?

Posted: **Fri Aug 09, 2019 2:30 pm**

pmac666 wrote:no it hasnt gone crazy, its just that we whitness alot racist shit atm.
and its always from the playbook.

1) racists doing racist things
2) racists getting outcalled for doing racist shit
3) racists call in selfdefense everyone else racist (thats what np is trying atm )
4) claiming that the word racist lost its meaning

this is how it works......

looks like not only np is in stage 3 :lol:

there will be soon a tweet saying the word racist lost its meaning, wanna bet?

Posted: **Fri Aug 09, 2019 8:48 pm**

There's a short cut here- Ask an Aussie about Aborigines, If they use the term "Abo", then you just have to work out exactly how racist they are.

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