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Hiroshima after 75 years

PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 10:37 pm
by jusplay4fun
The month marks the 50th anniversary of man landing on the moon, and the safe return of that crew to earth. It marks a significant achievement of the decade and is a feat of exploration, science, and engineering. It was the culmination of a huge effort, commitment, and expenditure of money to make the journey happen.

Apollo 11 was the spaceflight that landed the first two humans on the Moon. Commander Neil Armstrong and lunar module pilot Buzz Aldrin, both American, landed the Apollo Lunar Module Eagle on July 20, 1969, at 20:17 UTC. Armstrong became the first person to step onto the lunar surface six hours later on July 21 at 02:56:15 UTC; Aldrin joined him 19 minutes later. They spent about two and a quarter hours together outside the spacecraft, and collected 47.5 pounds (21.5 kg) of lunar material to bring back to Earth. Command module pilot Michael Collins flew the command module Columbia alone in lunar orbit while they were on the Moon's surface. Armstrong and Aldrin spent 21.5 hours on the lunar surface at a site they named Tranquility Base before rejoining Columbia in lunar orbit.

Apollo 11 was launched by a Saturn V rocket from Kennedy Space Center on Merritt Island, Florida, on July 16 at 13:32 UTC, and was the fifth crewed mission of NASA's Apollo program. The Apollo spacecraft had three parts: a command module (CM) with a cabin for the three astronauts, and the only part that returned to Earth; a service module (SM), which supported the command module with propulsion, electrical power, oxygen, and water; and a lunar module (LM) that had two stages – a descent stage for landing on the Moon, and an ascent stage to place the astronauts back into lunar orbit.

After being sent to the Moon by the Saturn V's third stage, the astronauts separated the spacecraft from it and traveled for three days until they entered lunar orbit. Armstrong and Aldrin then moved into Eagle and landed in the Sea of Tranquillity. The astronauts used Eagle's ascent stage to lift off from the lunar surface and rejoin Collins in the command module. They jettisoned Eagle before they performed the maneuvers that propelled the ship out of the last of its 30 lunar orbits on a trajectory back to Earth.[4] They returned to Earth and splashed down in the Pacific Ocean on July 24 after more than eight days in space.

Armstrong's first step onto the lunar surface was broadcast on live TV to a worldwide audience. He described the event as "one small step for [a] man, one giant leap for mankind."[8][9] Apollo 11 effectively ended the Space Race and fulfilled a national goal proposed in 1961 by President John F. Kennedy: "before this decade is out, of landing a man on the Moon and returning him safely to the Earth."[10]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_11


also, on PBS:

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/films/chasing-moon/

JP

Re: Apollo 11 after 50 years

PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 12:48 pm
by HitRed
If this is the same documentary, there is a scene where Armstrong returns to earth, goes home and goes inside to play Risk with his kids. The pieces are wooden squares.

Re: Apollo 11 after 50 years

PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 6:38 pm
by jusplay4fun
The PBS series ended Tuesday night with the assassination of JFK in Nov. 1963.....so Armstrong and Risk (1969?) may not happen until Thursday night, if it goes 3 nights.

I never saw the part about Armstrong and Risk; this is supposed to be a new series, I THINK. Premier, IF my memory is correct.

JP

HitRed wrote:If this is the same documentary, there is a scene where Armstrong returns to earth, goes home and goes inside to play Risk with his kids. The pieces are wooden squares.

Re: Apollo 11 after 50 years

PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 1:02 am
by jusplay4fun
on PBS, broadcast July 9; part 3 (of 3) = July 10

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/films/chasing-moon/

Quote of the episode 2: Thank you (to the Apollo 8 crew, December 8, 1968) "Thank you for saving 1968" in a letter to one of the 3 astronauts on that mission. They read from the Book of Genesis on Christmas while orbiting the moon and took great photos.

(after the assassinations of Dr. Martin Luther King and RFK, and the Vietnam War Drags ON, too.)

https://www.nasa.gov/image-feature/apollo-8-earthrise

JP

Fake Moon Landing

PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:01 am
by Bernie Sanders
FAKE MOON LANDING!



Re: Apollo 11 after 50 years

PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:54 pm
by jonesthecurl
'The flag flapping in the wind".
Is it only me that remembers we knew this was going to happen? I remember chuckling (in advance) over the fact that the flag would wave - they had a little wire in the top which waggled back and forth. "How silly is that?" I thought. I read about it in the Paris Match magazine - and the Apollo program was one of the reasons I became quite good at French for a while, as they absolutely had the best coverage right from the start, and I needed to be able to read it.

Somewhere in the singing silence of space, a tin flag flutters
- Alan Bennett in Habeas Corpus

Re: Fake Moon Landing

PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 5:38 pm
by betiko
Bernie Sanders wrote:FAKE MOON LANDING!




Is this guy even serious? He really looks like a normal guy pretending to be one of these kookoos to get views. It feels like his laughter is about to explode at any second.

Re: Apollo 11 after 50 years

PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 7:49 pm
by jusplay4fun
oh sure, and

The survey found that 2% of Americans firmly believe the Earth is flat, with interesting differences segmented by age, religion, income, and political affiliation.

Re: Apollo 11 after 50 years

PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2019 8:12 pm
by jusplay4fun
"If it is on the internet, it must be true..."

It’s been nearly 50 years since the Apollo 11 mission landed the first human beings on the moon, and since astronaut Neil Armstrong took his famous first step onto the lunar surface, speaking the words:

That’s one small step for man, one giant leap for mankind.

But not everyone believes he did that. In the video above, Roger Launius, now senior curator in the National Air and Space Museum’s Space History Division, discusses the belief that the moon landings never actually happened.

How many today believe that the six manned moon landings (1969–72) were faked and that 12 Apollo astronauts did not actually walk on the moon? Keep reading …


https://earthsky.org/space/apollo-and-the-moon-landing-hoax

A 1999 Gallup poll found that only 6 percent of Americans doubted the Apollo 11 moon landing happened. But – as the 21st century brought a rise in internet use and a different standard of truth in media – that number has risen, so that Wikipedia’s entry on this subject (Moon Landing Conspiracy Theories) now suggests:

Opinion polls taken in various locations have shown that between 6% and 20% of Americans, 25% of Britons, and 28% of Russians surveyed believe that the manned landings were faked.

One of the early promoters of the moon landing conspiracy theory was the Fox television network, which, in 2001, aired a documentary-style film titled Conspiracy Theory: Did We Land on the Moon?. It claimed that NASA faked the first landing in 1969 to win the Space Race. The film presented “evidence” of deception including photos showing no stars in the lunar sky and American flags rippling on the moon, despite the fact there’s no air or wind. It showed photograph and film oddities. It presented what’s become one of the most enduring claims by hoaxers: that astronauts could not have passed through the Van Allen radiation belts, in order to get to the moon.


All of these claims have been explained with the facts, of course, but – as has become increasingly apparent to all of us in recent years – human beings frequently don’t base their conclusions on facts.

In recent years, NASA’s Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter (LRO) mission has returned images of the moon’s surface – taken from orbit – showing the shadows of the various Apollo landers. LRO also acquired images of five of the six Apollo missions’ American flags on the moon; only the first flag to be planted – by the Apollo 11 crew – now lies on the lunar surface after being accidentally blown over by the takeoff rocket’s exhaust.

Conspiracy theorists will say that these images – like all the Apollo mission images – are faked.

Re: Apollo 11 after 50 years

PostPosted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 7:56 am
by NomadPatriot

Re: Apollo 11 after 50 years

PostPosted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 9:35 am
by Bernie Sanders


Astronaut punches flat earther

Re: Apollo 11 after 50 years

PostPosted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 9:47 am
by NomadPatriot
well at least old man Bernie described what that video was supposed to show us..
some young'n go over there and teach Geriatric-Bern how to post videos on here.. ( and change his diaper...)

Re: Apollo 11 after 50 years

PostPosted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 11:53 am
by jonesthecurl

Re: Apollo 11 after 50 years

PostPosted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 2:11 pm
by Bernie Sanders
NomadPatriot wrote:well at least old man Bernie described what that video was supposed to show us..
some young'n go over there and teach Geriatric-Bern how to post videos on here.. ( and change his diaper...)


I may be old by your standards, but I pack a punch just like our national hero.

Plus....I'm not a virgin, lol

Re: Apollo 11 after 50 years

PostPosted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 8:43 pm
by NomadPatriot
why in the past 50 years of space travel has no nation or group of nations like say the UN done the most logical thing possible..

--> build a space station at the halfway point between the Earth & the Moon..

we could put 24 hour feed HD cameras on it to monitor the Earth, to monitor the Moon. we could put high resolution telescopes on it to peer off into space and any repairs could be done easily within the station..

I mean there is like 100 nations who signed a Antarctic treaty to not explore Antarctica for Scientific Reasons. . numerous nations have a treaty with the International Space Station already. so it is possible for nations to come together for a common goal.. ..

weird no one has done this yet. a Waypoint Station exactly halfway between the Earth & the Moon is the most obvious thing to do.

Re: Apollo 11 after 50 years

PostPosted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 9:56 pm
by jusplay4fun
As I recall, as verified by part 3 of the Chasing the Moon PBS series I watched, the interest in space and the moon waned after the Apollo 11 landing. The later landings did not catch the attention of the US Citizens and the world as the FIRST man landing on the moon in July 1969. With that lack of interest, the US turned its attention to other problems and the money went there too: Vietnam, ending poverty, social programs, and other expenses. There was lots of resources committed in terms of money and human resources and more to make that moon landing happen. During the 1960s there was debate on the value of a moon landing and the payoff of that large expenditure of funds. One of the main reasons to get to the moon was to beat the Soviets there; that was a huge factor and provided much focus and motivation.

I am not sure the US or any other nation NOW has the will and commitment to put humans back to the moon and eventually to Mars AT THIS point of human endeavors. There is a lot of sentiment to fix problems on earth before sending and spending to put man back to the moon. One big change is the commitment of some private rich individuals with private companies to launch vehicles into space; Elon Musk, Richard Branson, Jeff Bezos and more are such examples.


NomadPatriot wrote:why in the past 50 years of space travel has no nation or group of nations like say the UN done the most logical thing possible..

--> build a space station at the halfway point between the Earth & the Moon..

we could put 24 hour feed HD cameras on it to monitor the Earth, to monitor the Moon. we could put high resolution telescopes on it to peer off into space and any repairs could be done easily within the station..

I mean there is like 100 nations who signed a Antarctic treaty to not explore Antarctica for Scientific Reasons. . numerous nations have a treaty with the International Space Station already. so it is possible for nations to come together for a common goal.. ..

weird no one has done this yet. a Waypoint Station exactly halfway between the Earth & the Moon is the most obvious thing to do.

Re: Apollo 11 after 50 years

PostPosted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 10:01 pm
by HitRed
:? Is there anything positive we can get from outer space?

Example, there is a lot of radiation and it's free but what's it good for? How do we harness space to make the earth better?

Re: Apollo 11 after 50 years

PostPosted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 10:05 pm
by HitRed
Bernie Sanders wrote:
NomadPatriot wrote:well at least old man Bernie described what that video was supposed to show us..
some young'n go over there and teach Geriatric-Bern how to post videos on here.. ( and change his diaper...)


I may be old by your standards, but I pack a punch just like Trump.

Plus....I'm not a virgin, lol

Re: Apollo 11 after 50 years

PostPosted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 10:10 pm
by NomadPatriot
HitRed wrote::? Is there anything positive we can get from outer space?

Example, there is a lot of radiation and it's free but what's it good for? How do we harness space to make the earth better?


a few things we could resource from outer space:
- mineral rich asteroids .. like platinum's & ores.
- research on the ability of life to survive outside of earth's ecosphere
- studying the effects of weightless on human beings..
- long term artificial gravity Research & Development
- if we can collect ice particles for use to grow plants or for fuel needs
- having a better position to place satellites on asteroids to 'hitch a free ride ' around our solar system.. if we can do it with Satellites. then maybe we could land a few humans on a asteroid and get that free ride to say Pluto without needing fuel to get there. just fuel to get back .. ( or another Asteroid heading back in our general direction for another free ride)

Re: Apollo 11 after 50 years

PostPosted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 10:12 pm
by Symmetry
HitRed wrote::? Is there anything positive we can get from outer space?

Example, there is a lot of radiation and it's free but what's it good for? How do we harness space to make the earth better?


Well, Buzz Aldrin punched a conspiracy theorist who was, and I'm no mathematician, a million years younger than him. That and and being the second man on the moon seems like a one-two punch of a positive for space travel.

Re: Apollo 11 after 50 years

PostPosted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 10:25 pm
by HitRed
Can we get "free" electricity? Solar panels on earth are just OK.

Solar winds for wind farms and such.

I would burn so much gas with lots of space energy.

Re: Apollo 11 after 50 years

PostPosted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 10:43 pm
by Symmetry
HitRed wrote:Can we get "free" electricity? Solar panels on earth are just OK.

Solar winds for wind farms and such.

I would burn so much gas with lots of space energy.


Buzz Aldrin should gave been the one to take out Thanos in Avengers Endgame.

Re: Apollo 11 after 50 years

PostPosted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 9:16 pm
by jusplay4fun
Apollo 11 demonstrates what humans can accomplish with the will, desire, and commitment of many people and lots of money.

What are the goals worthy of those things NOW? Can there be such a consensus? In the USA? in the world?

JP

Re: Apollo 11 after 50 years

PostPosted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 9:34 pm
by Symmetry
jusplay4fun wrote:Apollo 11 demonstrates what humans can accomplish with the will, desire, and commitment of many people and lots of money.

What are the goals worthy of those things NOW? Can there be such a consensus? In the USA? in the world?

JP


NASA at the time was pulling scary level of GDP. Like 5%. Just to erase the first man and woman in space being Soviet. I doubt many Americans, or indeed anyone, knows the name of the first woman to leave this planet.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valentina_Tereshkova