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Friend of Clinton and Trump helps Trump rape minors

PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 10:53 am
by mrswdk
An ex-financier who was close to Bill Clinton and Donald Trump - regularly inviting both to attend parties at his house - has been charged with trafficking underage girls for his party guests to sexually abuse:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-48912797

Donald Trump is 73 years old.

Re: Friend of Clinton and Trump procured child prostitutes

PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 10:55 am
by mrswdk
Donald Trump wrote:I’ve known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy. He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.


https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/nati ... 669665001/

Re: Friend of Clinton and Trump procured child prostitutes

PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 2:53 pm
by Dukasaur
mrswdk wrote:An ex-financier who was close to Bill Clinton and Donald Trump - regularly inviting both to attend parties at his house - has been charged with trafficking underage girls for his party guests to sexually abuse:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-48912797

Donald Trump is 73 years old.


Alexander Acosta, who negotiated a slap-on-the-wrist plea bargain in Epstein's first trial, has been rewarded with a sinecure in Trump's cabinet.

Re: Friend of Clinton and Trump procured child prostitutes

PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 12:46 am
by Symmetry
Dukasaur wrote:
mrswdk wrote:An ex-financier who was close to Bill Clinton and Donald Trump - regularly inviting both to attend parties at his house - has been charged with trafficking underage girls for his party guests to sexually abuse:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-48912797

Donald Trump is 73 years old.


Alexander Acosta, who negotiated a slap-on-the-wrist plea bargain in Epstein's first trial, has been rewarded with a sinecure in Trump's cabinet.


What he did and what the authorities initially charged him with, and then let him off with a light sentence to still practice was so very wrong.

No need for a victory lap, you two.

Some of us haven't forgotten.

Re: Friend of Clinton and Trump procured child prostitutes

PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 1:51 am
by mookiemcgee
Symmetry wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:
mrswdk wrote:An ex-financier who was close to Bill Clinton and Donald Trump - regularly inviting both to attend parties at his house - has been charged with trafficking underage girls for his party guests to sexually abuse:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-48912797

Donald Trump is 73 years old.


Alexander Acosta, who negotiated a slap-on-the-wrist plea bargain in Epstein's first trial, has been rewarded with a sinecure in Trump's cabinet.


What he did and what the authorities initially charged him with, and then let him off with a light sentence to still practice was so very wrong.

No need for a victory lap, you two.

Some of us haven't forgotten.


Coincidence? During the 2016 campaign, an anonymous woman sued Trump for raping her at a party hosted by Epstein when she was 13. She withdrew her lawsuit before the election though...

Re: Friend of Clinton and Trump procured child prostitutes

PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 6:18 am
by Dukasaur
mookiemcgee wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:
mrswdk wrote:An ex-financier who was close to Bill Clinton and Donald Trump - regularly inviting both to attend parties at his house - has been charged with trafficking underage girls for his party guests to sexually abuse:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-48912797

Donald Trump is 73 years old.


Alexander Acosta, who negotiated a slap-on-the-wrist plea bargain in Epstein's first trial, has been rewarded with a sinecure in Trump's cabinet.


What he did and what the authorities initially charged him with, and then let him off with a light sentence to still practice was so very wrong.

No need for a victory lap, you two.

Some of us haven't forgotten.


Coincidence? During the 2016 campaign, an anonymous woman sued Trump for raping her at a party hosted by Epstein when she was 13. She withdrew her lawsuit before the election though...


Sym's statement could probably do with a bit of elaboration. Like "Some of us haven't forgotten, but the vast majority have."

Re: Friend of Clinton and Trump procured child prostitutes

PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 12:08 pm
by mookiemcgee
Have you all read the report about Trump inviting only Epstein to a party for just the two of them and 27 young girls?

Re: Friend of Clinton and Trump procured child prostitutes

PostPosted: Sun Jul 14, 2019 1:44 pm
by what,me worry?
The rich procure forbidden fruit??!


Sacre Bleu!

Re: Friend of Clinton and Trump procured child prostitutes

PostPosted: Sun Jul 14, 2019 2:32 pm
by riskllama
i don't think these girls were prozzies, mrs... :?

Re: Friend of Clinton and Trump procured child prostitutes

PostPosted: Sun Jul 14, 2019 3:09 pm
by Bernie Sanders
Of course not dummy.....they were procured from an escort service....

Re: Friend of Clinton and Trump procured child prostitutes

PostPosted: Sun Jul 14, 2019 3:13 pm
by riskllama
were they?

Re: Friend of Clinton and Trump procured child prostitutes

PostPosted: Sun Jul 14, 2019 3:17 pm
by waauw
riskllama wrote:were they?


Weren't they?

Re: Friend of Clinton and Trump procured child prostitutes

PostPosted: Sun Jul 14, 2019 3:22 pm
by riskllama
waauw wrote:
riskllama wrote:were they?


Weren't they?


i honestly have no idea, but i'd assume that the agencies would require employees to be of legal age and provide some semblance of proof of that, no?

Re: Friend of Clinton and Trump procured child prostitutes

PostPosted: Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:09 pm
by mookiemcgee
riskllama wrote:
waauw wrote:
riskllama wrote:were they?


Weren't they?


i honestly have no idea, but i'd assume that the agencies would require employees to be of legal age and provide some semblance of proof of that, no?


Awwww... that's cute. He's so innocent.

Re: Friend of Clinton and Trump procured child prostitutes

PostPosted: Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:15 pm
by riskllama
huh?

Re: Friend of Clinton and Trump procured child sex slaves

PostPosted: Sun Jul 14, 2019 6:12 pm
by mrswdk
riskllama wrote:i don't think these girls were prozzies, mrs... :?


It's a bit of a catch all term for anyone who has sex in return for money.

You are right to draw a distinction though. My use of the term 'prostitute' suggested someone pursuing their own employment. Whereas in fact what Trump and Epstein actually did was traffick and savagely rape underage girls who almost certainly never saw the profits made by their masters:

During this period, Plaintiff was a minor of age 13 and was legally incapable under New York law of consenting to sexual intercourse and the other sexual contacts detailed herein.

Defendant Trump initiated sexual contact with Plaintiff at four different parties. On the fourth and final sexual encounter with Defendant Trump, Defendant Trump tied Plaintiff to a bed, exposed himself to Plaintiff, and then proceeded to forcibly rape Plaintiff. During the course of this savage sexual attack, Plaintiff loudly pleaded with Defendant Trump to stop but with no effect. Defendant Trump responded to Plaintiff’s pleas by violently striking Plaintiff in the face with his open hand and screaming that he would do whatever he wanted.

Immediately following this rape, Defendant Trump threatened Plaintiff that, were she ever to reveal any of the details of the sexual and physical abuse of her by Defendant Trump, Plaintiff and her family would be physically harmed if not killed.

Re: Friend of Clinton and Trump helps Trump rape minors

PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 12:05 am
by NomadPatriot
amazing you people actually believe this ..

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Friend of Clinton and Trump helps Trump rape minors

PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 12:09 am
by NomadPatriot
stories do not have to be true.. you just have to say they are. and the brainwashed follow..

"defendant Obama grabbed the plantiff Baby Seal & proceeded to throat f*ck the Baby seal for 9 days straight.. Plaintiff Baby seal died on the 4th day.. but Defendant Obama continued Throat F*Cking Plaintiff Baby Seal for 5 more Days until Plaintiff Baby Seal's Head became Detached."

Re: Friend of Clinton and Trump procured child prostitutes

PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 2:18 am
by Dukasaur
riskllama wrote:
waauw wrote:
riskllama wrote:were they?


Weren't they?


i honestly have no idea, but i'd assume that the agencies would require employees to be of legal age and provide some semblance of proof of that, no?


Agencies need to cover their ass, so they do ask for proof-of-age to be on file.

If, however, someone provides fake ID, they are quite happy to pretend they don't know.

Re: Friend of Clinton and Trump helps Trump rape minors

PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 4:06 am
by NomadPatriot
mrswdk wrote:
Donald Trump wrote:I’ve known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy. He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.


https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/nati ... 669665001/


from your usa today link:
" The newspaper said there’s no evidence Trump or Clinton was involved in underage sex activities."

not even mentioned in your usa today link

--.> Trump Was 'Only One' To Help Prosecutor In 2009 Epstein Case

◾According to an April 2016 report by Radaronline, Trump had “no relationship” with Epstein and actually kicked him out of Mar-a-Lago for hitting on a minor.

Florida attorney Bradley Edwards, who represented one of Epstein’s initial accusers more than a decade ago, said that private citizen Trump was the “only person” who provided assistance to him:
"The only thing that I can say about President Trump is that he is the only person who, in 2009 when I served a lot of subpoenas on a lot of people, or at least gave notice to some pretty connected people, that I want to talk to them, is the only person who picked up the phone and said, let’s just talk. I’ll give you as much time as you want. I’ll tell you what you need to know, and was very helpful, in the information that he gave, and gave no indication whatsoever that he was involved in anything untoward whatsoever, but had good information. "

https://thenationalsentinel.com/2019/07/08/fact-trump-is-no-perv-was-the-only-one-who-helped-prosecutors-nail-serial-child-molester-jeffrey-epstein/

Re: Friend of Clinton and Trump procured child prostitutes

PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 11:32 am
by mookiemcgee
Dukasaur wrote:
riskllama wrote:
waauw wrote:
riskllama wrote:were they?


Weren't they?


i honestly have no idea, but i'd assume that the agencies would require employees to be of legal age and provide some semblance of proof of that, no?


Agencies need to cover their ass, so they do ask for proof-of-age to be on file.

If, however, someone provides fake ID, they are quite happy to pretend they don't know.


Ok first... There are legit model agencies, and then there are escort agencies that call themselves model agencies like say for instance Mynt Models. The term model agency doesn't mean much lol. Look up OC models. Their site says in BIG FONT - WE DON"T HIRE OUT ESCORTS, but then all the model pictures are naked porn stars. You don't have to be brilliant to figure out those words are there just for legal liability reasons. Also, sex with an escort is illegal in the US, but technically if you film sex with an escort it's no longer illegal because you are making a porn film. Isn't that crazy!?!

Secondly... Let's say you run a legit model agency, and most of your work is above board and it's just modeling. There is nothing illegal about using girls under 18 for legit modelling jobs.

Thirdly... let's say you run a legit operation, commercial invoices, payment by check... super above-board...but some super rich clients offer you a suitcase full of cash to bring some of you 'models' to a 'party' they are throwing. the girls know 'the deal' because they are getting paid 10x what they normally do for a modelling job. If some aren't down they don't go, others need the money or are just curious what old man penis looks like so they go.

Now say the client starts using your girls frequently for 'parties', and hes making you alot more money then the legit jobs you find for most of your girls, plus it's all cash so it' always off the books... but this client has a friend that likes to party with a slightly younger crowd, and says this time there is an extra suitcase filled with money for the agent if he brings some girls that are below 18... can't you picture this agency owner finding his best customer what he wants? Is that such a stretch?

This is all a hypothetical and I'm not pointing to any company or trump or anyone, I'm just saying I know this is how it works in the real world. frankly it's starting to sound like Epstien didn't need any 'help' from an agency to find underage girls, but rather was inside the 'organizing ring' of all this himself. But to me, none of this should be shocking... and the idea proof of age would be a hurdle for people of this level of wealth just seems naive to me Llama.

Re: Friend of Clinton and Trump helps Trump rape minors

PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 12:39 pm
by NomadPatriot
mookiemcgee wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:
riskllama wrote:
waauw wrote:
riskllama wrote:were they?


Weren't they?


i honestly have no idea, but i'd assume that the agencies would require employees to be of legal age and provide some semblance of proof of that, no?


Agencies need to cover their ass, so they do ask for proof-of-age to be on file.

If, however, someone provides fake ID, they are quite happy to pretend they don't know.


Ok first... There are legit model agencies, and then there are escort agencies that call themselves model agencies like say for instance Mynt Models. The term model agency doesn't mean much lol. Look up OC models. Their site says in BIG FONT - WE DON"T HIRE OUT ESCORTS, but then all the model pictures are naked porn stars. You don't have to be brilliant to figure out those words are there just for legal liability reasons. Also, sex with an escort is illegal in the US, but technically if you film sex with an escort it's no longer illegal because you are making a porn film. Isn't that crazy!?!

Secondly... Let's say you run a legit model agency, and most of your work is above board and it's just modeling. There is nothing illegal about using girls under 18 for legit modelling jobs.

Thirdly... let's say you run a legit operation, commercial invoices, payment by check... super above-board...but some super rich clients offer you a suitcase full of cash to bring some of you 'models' to a 'party' they are throwing. the girls know 'the deal' because they are getting paid 10x what they normally do for a modelling job. If some aren't down they don't go, others need the money or are just curious what old man penis looks like so they go.

Now say the client starts using your girls frequently for 'parties', and hes making you alot more money then the legit jobs you find for most of your girls, plus it's all cash so it' always off the books... but this client has a friend that likes to party with a slightly younger crowd, and says this time there is an extra suitcase filled with money for the agent if he brings some girls that are below 18... can't you picture this agency owner finding his best customer what he wants? Is that such a stretch?

This is all a hypothetical and I'm not pointing to any company or trump or anyone, I'm just saying I know this is how it works in the real world. frankly it's starting to sound like Epstien didn't need any 'help' from an agency to find underage girls, but rather was inside the 'organizing ring' of all this himself. But to me, none of this should be shocking... and the idea proof of age would be a hurdle for people of this level of wealth just seems naive to me Llama.


"This is all a hypothetical"

--> exactly.... you argue your side on hypotheticals..

Re: Friend of Clinton and Trump helps Trump rape minors

PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 12:52 pm
by mookiemcgee
NomadPatriot wrote:
mookiemcgee wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:
riskllama wrote:
waauw wrote:
riskllama wrote:were they?


Weren't they?


i honestly have no idea, but i'd assume that the agencies would require employees to be of legal age and provide some semblance of proof of that, no?


Agencies need to cover their ass, so they do ask for proof-of-age to be on file.

If, however, someone provides fake ID, they are quite happy to pretend they don't know.


Ok first... There are legit model agencies, and then there are escort agencies that call themselves model agencies like say for instance Mynt Models. The term model agency doesn't mean much lol. Look up OC models. Their site says in BIG FONT - WE DON"T HIRE OUT ESCORTS, but then all the model pictures are naked porn stars. You don't have to be brilliant to figure out those words are there just for legal liability reasons. Also, sex with an escort is illegal in the US, but technically if you film sex with an escort it's no longer illegal because you are making a porn film. Isn't that crazy!?!

Secondly... Let's say you run a legit model agency, and most of your work is above board and it's just modeling. There is nothing illegal about using girls under 18 for legit modelling jobs.

Thirdly... let's say you run a legit operation, commercial invoices, payment by check... super above-board...but some super rich clients offer you a suitcase full of cash to bring some of you 'models' to a 'party' they are throwing. the girls know 'the deal' because they are getting paid 10x what they normally do for a modelling job. If some aren't down they don't go, others need the money or are just curious what old man penis looks like so they go.

Now say the client starts using your girls frequently for 'parties', and hes making you alot more money then the legit jobs you find for most of your girls, plus it's all cash so it' always off the books... but this client has a friend that likes to party with a slightly younger crowd, and says this time there is an extra suitcase filled with money for the agent if he brings some girls that are below 18... can't you picture this agency owner finding his best customer what he wants? Is that such a stretch?

This is all a hypothetical and I'm not pointing to any company or trump or anyone, I'm just saying I know this is how it works in the real world. frankly it's starting to sound like Epstien didn't need any 'help' from an agency to find underage girls, but rather was inside the 'organizing ring' of all this himself. But to me, none of this should be shocking... and the idea proof of age would be a hurdle for people of this level of wealth just seems naive to me Llama.


"This is all a hypothetical"

--> exactly.... you argue your side on hypotheticals..


This was directed at Llama, and it's only hypothetical in terms of who is involved. This is what happens in the real world, it's not a debatable issue. Someday when you leave mom and dads house you might learn how the world actually works.

Re: Friend of Clinton and Trump helps Trump rape minors

PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 1:03 pm
by mrswdk
Is the tl;dr version that mookie knows a lot about how escort agencies operate?

Re: Friend of Clinton and Trump helps Trump rape minors

PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 1:11 pm
by mookiemcgee
mrswdk wrote:Is the tl;dr version that mookie knows a lot about how escort agencies operate?


Yup...but again, you learned nothing. we call them model agencies duh!