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Giants of Left and Right to work together for peace

PostPosted: Mon Jul 01, 2019 2:14 am
by Dukasaur
https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2019/06/30/soros-and-koch-brothers-team-end-forever-war-policy/WhyENwjhG0vfo9Um6Zl0JO/story.html?p1=Article_Recirc_Most_Popular
BESIDES BEING BILLIONAIRES and spending much of their fortunes to promote pet causes, the leftist financier George Soros and the right-wing Koch brothers have little in common. They could be seen as polar opposites. Soros is an old-fashioned New Deal liberal. The Koch brothers are fire-breathing right-wingers who dream of cutting taxes and dismantling government. Now they have found something to agree on: the United States must end its “forever war” and adopt an entirely new foreign policy.

In one of the most remarkable partnerships in modern American political history, Soros and Charles Koch, the more active of the two brothers, are joining to finance a new foreign-policy think tank in Washington. It will promote an approach to the world based on diplomacy and restraint rather than threats, sanctions, and bombing. This is a radical notion in Washington, where every major think tank promotes some variant of neocon militarism or liberal interventionism. Soros and Koch are uniting to revive the fading vision of a peaceable United States. The street cred they bring from both ends of the political spectrum — along with the money they are providing — will make this new think tank an off-pitch voice for statesmanship amid a Washington chorus that promotes brinksmanship.

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Since peaceful foreign policy was a founding principle of the United States, it’s appropriate that the name of this think tank harken back to history. It will be called the Quincy Institute for Responsible Statecraft, an homage to John Quincy Adams, who in a seminal speech on Independence Day in 1821 declared that the United States “goes not abroad in search of monsters to destroy. She is the well-wisher to the freedom and independence of all. She is the champion and vindicator only of her own.” The Quincy Institute will promote a foreign policy based on that live-and-let-live principle.

Re: Giants of Left and Right to work together for peace

PostPosted: Mon Jul 01, 2019 11:19 am
by jimboston
Dukasaur wrote:https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2019/06/30/soros-and-koch-brothers-team-end-forever-war-policy/WhyENwjhG0vfo9Um6Zl0JO/story.html?p1=Article_Recirc_Most_Popular
BESIDES BEING BILLIONAIRES and spending much of their fortunes to promote pet causes, the leftist financier George Soros and the right-wing Koch brothers have little in common. They could be seen as polar opposites. Soros is an old-fashioned New Deal liberal. The Koch brothers are fire-breathing right-wingers who dream of cutting taxes and dismantling government. Now they have found something to agree on: the United States must end its “forever war” and adopt an entirely new foreign policy.

In one of the most remarkable partnerships in modern American political history, Soros and Charles Koch, the more active of the two brothers, are joining to finance a new foreign-policy think tank in Washington. It will promote an approach to the world based on diplomacy and restraint rather than threats, sanctions, and bombing. This is a radical notion in Washington, where every major think tank promotes some variant of neocon militarism or liberal interventionism. Soros and Koch are uniting to revive the fading vision of a peaceable United States. The street cred they bring from both ends of the political spectrum — along with the money they are providing — will make this new think tank an off-pitch voice for statesmanship amid a Washington chorus that promotes brinksmanship.

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Since peaceful foreign policy was a founding principle of the United States, it’s appropriate that the name of this think tank harken back to history. It will be called the Quincy Institute for Responsible Statecraft, an homage to John Quincy Adams, who in a seminal speech on Independence Day in 1821 declared that the United States “goes not abroad in search of monsters to destroy. She is the well-wisher to the freedom and independence of all. She is the champion and vindicator only of her own.” The Quincy Institute will promote a foreign policy based on that live-and-let-live principle.


I agree. Massachusetts has brought us some of the greatest United States Presidents/

Re: Giants of Left and Right to work together for peace

PostPosted: Mon Jul 01, 2019 11:58 am
by NomadPatriot
jimboston wrote:I agree. Massachusetts has brought us some of the greatest United States Presidents/

I will agree with Jimmy Butts....


John Adams - Republican

John Quincy Adams - Republican

Calvin Coolidge- Republican

George Herbert Walker Bush - Republican

Re: Giants of Left and Right to work together for peace

PostPosted: Mon Jul 01, 2019 12:04 pm
by riskllama
sounds promising, but i'll believe it when i see it.

Re: Giants of Left and Right to work together for peace

PostPosted: Mon Jul 01, 2019 12:19 pm
by HitRed
Can we point to a THINK TANK that had a real impact?

Re: Giants of Left and Right to work together for peace

PostPosted: Mon Jul 01, 2019 12:27 pm
by NomadPatriot
HitRed wrote:Can we point to a THINK TANK that had a real impact?


his name was B.R.I.A.N... he had a impact..
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Re: Giants of Left and Right to work together for peace

PostPosted: Mon Jul 01, 2019 12:32 pm
by riskllama
*an impact... :roll:

Re: Giants of Left and Right to work together for peace

PostPosted: Mon Jul 01, 2019 1:28 pm
by Dukasaur
HitRed wrote:Can we point to a THINK TANK that had a real impact?

Cato Institute guided most of Reagan's decisions. Since then, the history of U.S. politics has been mainly a contest for control by Cato (right), the Brookings Institute (centre) and the Open Society Foundation (left).

Re: Giants of Left and Right to work together for peace

PostPosted: Mon Jul 01, 2019 5:05 pm
by mookiemcgee
Where is Armati, this is gonna make his conspiracy filled head explode...

Soros "king of the evil Jews" and the Koch brothers?!?

Re: Giants of Left and Right to work together for peace

PostPosted: Mon Jul 01, 2019 7:45 pm
by spurgistan
NomadPatriot wrote:
jimboston wrote:I agree. Massachusetts has brought us some of the greatest United States Presidents/

I will agree with Jimmy Butts....


John Adams - Republican

John Quincy Adams - Republican

Calvin Coolidge- Republican

George Herbert Walker Bush - Republican


John Adams was a Federalist...

Re: Giants of Left and Right to work together for peace

PostPosted: Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:13 pm
by jimboston
spurgistan wrote:
NomadPatriot wrote:
jimboston wrote:I agree. Massachusetts has brought us some of the greatest United States Presidents/

I will agree with Jimmy Butts....


John Adams - Republican

John Quincy Adams - Republican

Calvin Coolidge- Republican

George Herbert Walker Bush - Republican


John Adams was a Federalist...


Bush wasn’t from Massachusetts.

Re: Giants of Left and Right to work together for peace

PostPosted: Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:36 pm
by riskllama
hmm...according to wikipedia, he was born in Milton.

Re: Giants of Left and Right to work together for peace

PostPosted: Mon Jul 01, 2019 9:21 pm
by NomadPatriot
spurgistan wrote:
NomadPatriot wrote:
jimboston wrote:I agree. Massachusetts has brought us some of the greatest United States Presidents/

I will agree with Jimmy Butts....


John Adams - Republican

John Quincy Adams - Republican

Calvin Coolidge- Republican

George Herbert Walker Bush - Republican


John Adams was a Federalist...


As president, he followed Washington's lead in using the presidency to exemplify republican values.

Re: Giants of Left and Right to work together for peace

PostPosted: Mon Jul 01, 2019 9:23 pm
by NomadPatriot
Sorry Jimmy.. you lose.. even Llama can do a 2 second internet search..

Re: Giants of Left and Right to work together for peace

PostPosted: Mon Jul 01, 2019 10:05 pm
by riskllama
perhaps you were thinking of George Bush jr. ???

Re: Giants of Left and Right to work together for peace

PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2019 6:19 am
by jimboston
He was born in Milton, which barely counts as Massachusetts.

He grew up in CT, attended college at Yale in CT... then he moved to Texas where he got involved in politics.

So I think you have to blame CT or Texas.

You’re not ‘from’ a place because you were born there... you’re ‘from’ the place you grew up or became an adult.
That’s where your core ‘self’ is formed.

Just because he had a few diaper changes in Milton before he moved to CT doesn’t make him a Masshole.

Re: Giants of Left and Right to work together for peace

PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2019 11:17 am
by NomadPatriot
jimboston wrote:He was born in Milton, which barely counts as Massachusetts.

He grew up in CT, attended college at Yale in CT... then he moved to Texas where he got involved in politics.

So I think you have to blame CT or Texas.

You’re not ‘from’ a place because you were born there... you’re ‘from’ the place you grew up or became an adult.
That’s where your core ‘self’ is formed.

Just because he had a few diaper changes in Milton before he moved to CT doesn’t make him a Masshole.


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