NomadPatriot wrote:Dukasaur wrote:Arsenic isn't any worse for you than the sugar that's normally present in pop.
60% of the people in the industrialized world will ultimately die from diabetes-related heart disease or some other entirely-preventable disease derived from carbohydrate abuse.
considering only 23.6 million Americans actually have diabetes. ( about 8% of the population). I am not sure how 60% of people would die from it.. so not too sure on your stats.
According to the CDC, 30 million Americans have diabetes, or 9.5% of the population.
https://www.cdc.gov/diabetes/data/statistics/statistics-report.htmlI linked to a very rough summary, but if you want to dig deeper there are links from there to more detailed reports.
Now, if you look at that summary, you'll see another number. "84.1 million adults aged 18 years or older have prediabetes (33.9% of the adult US population)" What does that mean? Prediabetes means you're standing on the threshold of diabetes. You still have time to turn back, if you stop eating crap, but given the atrociously bad nutritional advice given out by the government and its Big Pharma sugar daddies, very few people will. Most of those 84 million will move across the threshold and be full-blown diabetics in due course of time.
So add together the 9.5% of the population that's already diabetic and the 34% that's well on its way, you're now up to about 43%. But that's still not the whole picture. If you dig deeper into the stats, you'll find that the stats are heavily skewed with age. Older people are far more likely to be reported in the diabetic or pre-diabetic categories. But it's young people who are eating the junk food that will eventually land them in those categories. In most countries, the death rate from diabetic-related causes tends to lag about 25 years behind changes in diet. So there's a lot more young people who are not reported as diabetic or pre-diabetic right now, but sure as shit will be eventually.
As a general ballpark extrapolation of the data, if 40% are already being reported in dia/predia range, 60% will be in 20 years.
Here's a nice little graph showing the growth of diabetes over time. The slope of the graph is pretty steep in the years from 1990 to 2010, although it does slow down a bit after that. One graph is hardly the last word on the subject, but it does illustrate the point nicely.
NomadPatriot wrote: do you have information that directly links 60% of deaths to Carbohydrate Abuse...?
In short, nope. Nothing that would stand up in court. But we're not in court. We're having an informal conversation on a gaming site. My ballpark extrapolation is good enough.
NomadPatriot wrote:you mean like eating too much: Corn Starch, Barley, Wild Rice, Semolina, Rice, Chickpeas, Spaghetti, Raisins, Noodles, Shitake Mushrooms, flour, Oatmeal....
all of these foods contain Carbohydrates.. so I guess Carbohydrate Abuse would be eating all of these 'dangerous foods' too much.
Precisely. Too much of anything is bad, of course, but how much it takes to cause harm varies with the concentration.
If you take opioids as an analogy, resistant starches like those in legumes are like eating raw poppy seeds. You can kill yourself if you do enough, but it would take a hell of a lot. Plants that have been selectively bred for a high starch content, like wheat, rice, and corn, are like codeine. There is a safe dose, but you need to be careful. Refined sugar is heroin. There is still a safe dose, but it's very, very small and you're better off just staying away from the shit.
NomadPatriot wrote:if a disease is entirely preventable. why didn't they just get it cured. .?
did Carbohydrate Abuse prevent them from getting it cured..?
Yeah, pretty much. Carbs are addictive. Every time you eat carbs, your body releases insulin, which makes you crave more carbs. Give in to that craving, and you'll release even more insulin, and so on and so forth. It's a slowly accelerating wheel of death. Some people succumb at 20, others hold out to 60, but the majority of people exposed to the disgusting Western diet do succumb eventually.
Unfortunately people are dealing not only with the inherently addictive nature of carbs, but with sustained pressure from the carbohydrate industries, from the pharmaceutical industry, and from the government. It's been known for 150 years that carbs cause obesity and diabetes, but a sustained propaganda effort from Big Pharma, Big Sugar, and government has largely suppressed that knowledge and misdirected people in all kinds of stupid directions.
You get multibillion dollar organizations like Quaker Oats with a squeeky-clean wholesome image that are actually merchants of death. They spend literally tens of millions on propaganda portraying their shit as some kind of health food. Yeah, raw or minimally-processed milled oats are actually pretty good, mostly fibre. But most of the shit they're selling isn't anything near raw or milled oats. There's "instant oats" which are basically oat starch with 90% of the fiber taken out, and there's "granola" bars which are mostly sugar and candy with just enough granola and oats to avoid getting sued. A study gets published showing that people who eat a lot of raw oats have reduced heart disease, and that's used to sell disgusting candy bars with a few fragments of oat in them.
Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2019 12:34 pm