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2dimes wrote:Where do they get that environmentally friendly milk?

mookiemcgee wrote:

2dimes wrote:Where do they get that environmentally friendly milk?

It's certainly not almond milk, almonds are some of the most water sucking crops grown.

mrswdk wrote:

mookiemcgee wrote:

2dimes wrote:Where do they get that environmentally friendly milk?

It's certainly not almond milk, almonds are some of the most water sucking crops grown.

Wrong (sort of). Almond milk is worse than other plant-based milks, but still far better than dairy milk.

Cows lose again!

TA1LGUNN3R wrote:Well, beef really is the blandest of red meats.

mookiemcgee wrote:Distilling things down to basic numbers like this also overlooks key side benefits to farming or raising a certain type of crop/livestock.

I assume that these numbers are based on the idea that cattle is fed (likely corn) purchased and from a bag. When cattle are pasture raised and eat grass and other wild cover crops, they help fertilize soil when pasture raised and which helps other crops grow in a future cycle on the land. A pasture that was otherwise effectively fallow before the cattle came to eat the grass, may now be "mowed" and "fertilized" without any effort by the farmer, and is great land for farming veggies. Cattle offer many positive 'side effects' to the farms eco-system when pasture raised and not directly fed feed. It's really the whole mono-culture large farm agg system that causes beef to stand out as being environmentally unfriendly, but it's hard to ignore when done like this that it is not a CO2 friendly eat.

Here is a decent article about why cows are an important part of the farming ecosystem:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/actually-raising-beef-is-good-for-the-planet-1419030738

First, the researchers calculated the feed costs for each class of animal—beef, pork, chicken, laying hens and dairy cows. They did not include fish because data about resources used to raise those animals is limited, and fish only contributed about two percent of American’s animal-based energy intake from 2000 to 2013.

They used data collected between 2000 to 2010 from the U.S. Departments of Agriculture, Interior and Energy about land area, water and nitrogen fertilizer to determine the burden produced by feeding and raising all of those animals. Then, they standardized the data by calories contained in a given amount of milk, eggs, beef, pork or chicken.

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The findings, while expected, are quite sobering. Pork, chicken, dairy and eggs are equivalent within a factor of two when it came to their environmental burdens, the authors determined. But beef requires far, far more resources than any of those other protein categories. The team calculated that beef requires 28 times more land, six times more fertilizer and 11 times more water compared to those other food sources. That adds up to about five times more greenhouse gas emissions.
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mrswdk wrote:The University of Michigan - one of the top universities in the United States - has named and shamed beef as by far the most environmentally unfriendly ingredient in any meal:



Say NO to beef, and say yes to alternative sources of protein and taste sensations.

2dimes wrote:Bison are better because they wander off instead of eating all the grass in one pasture but bovine are easier to round up out on the range.

karel wrote:I don't care what these lame brain green people say I will never give up my beef,i eat meat 7 days a week once again the left pushing their lame shit again on to people

Drink up, Nazis.

PETA (People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals) is making the claim that milk is the perfect tipple for racists.

The organization tweeted: “Cows’ milk has long been a symbol used by white supremacists.”

In addition, the group claims the dairy industry inflicts extreme violence on cows, committing sins such as rape.

mrswdk wrote:The University of Michigan - one of the top universities in the United States

TeeGee wrote:

mrswdk wrote:The University of Michigan - one of the top universities in the United States - has named and shamed beef as by far the most environmentally unfriendly ingredient in any meal:



Say NO to beef, and say yes to alternative sources of protein and taste sensations.

LIES!!

You told me you loved my sausage