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The dems in Congress want to get Trumps personal tax returns from the IRS. They do have a lot of over site authority. Should the IRS be the next battle ground in politics?

I can't believe people think the IRS would not have done something about it if Trump owed taxes.

They don't exactly waive back taxes owed.

2dimes wrote:I can't believe people think the IRS would not have done something about it if Trump owed taxes.

They don't exactly waive back taxes owed.

It's not about tax owed. But, tax fraud, real net worth, where is the origin of said money and from what countries and people did the money come from. Did he profit from being President.....There's many things you can find out about a supposedly Billionaire when you put a magnifying glass to it.

Follow the fukn money!

Bernie Sanders wrote:

2dimes wrote:I can't believe people think the IRS would not have done something about it if Trump owed taxes.

They don't exactly waive back taxes owed.

It's not about tax owed. But, tax fraud, real net worth, where is the origin of said money and from what countries and people did the money come from. Did he profit from being President.....There's many things you can find out about a supposedly Billionaire when you put a magnifying glass to it.

Follow the fukn money!

Mueller proved that Trump did not collude with Russia and that Obama did not collude with the Muslim Brotherhood. You're like the last person still clinging to these debunked conspiracy theories. Why do you hate America?

Wouldn't any money that Trump makes will be called ill-gotten?

If there was/is tax fraud they would be chasing him down. There are probably a lot of things you could get away with but I suspect being president would not help you avoid the IRS.

90+% of politicians profit from connections made in office. He has gone broke a few times and probably is operating mostly on borrowed money like a single mom. What are you hoping to find out Bern?

Maybe the politics could be avoided if the dems asked the IRS to do an in house audit.

I also wouldn't release my tax returns if I were Trump. He is a billionaire in the sense that he controls assets, not all of which are tangible, worth billions but he undoubtedly doesn't just have a billion sitting in the bank. If he releases his returns the Democrats will use that to make wild accusations of his dishonesty. They're not interested in the returns for any legitimate investigatory purpose.

I would wager the president may have immediate access to a few million dollars and may be living on a $700K annual budget, which makes his decision to forfeit his $400K presidential salary even more meaningful. The Corrupt Clintons have looted more than Trump has earned or inherited.

Apparently the prime minister of Belgium makes $250k a year ... more than half of what the US President earns even though Belgium is only 1/30 the size of the US by population and about the land area of a large Wal-Mart. Ridiculous!

saxitoxin wrote:I also wouldn't release my tax returns if I were Trump. He is a billionaire in the sense that he controls assets, not all of which are tangible, worth billions but he undoubtedly doesn't just have a billion sitting in the bank. If he releases his returns the Democrats will use that to make wild accusations of his dishonesty. They're not interested in the returns for any legitimate investigatory purpose.

I would wager the president may have immediate access to a few million dollars and may be living on a $700K annual budget, which makes his decision to forfeit his $400K presidential salary even more meaningful. The Corrupt Clintons have looted more than Trump has earned or inherited.

Apparently the prime minister of Belgium makes $250k a year ... more than half of what the US President earns even though Belgium is only 1/30 the size of the US by population and about the land area of a large Wal-Mart. Ridiculous!

Yes, Trump is turning the entire United States into a Wal-Mart business model

HitRed and Bernie Sanders are entirely correct. The separation of powers between different branches of government is ineffective. The only truly efficient system of government is one where every branch of state authority is placed firmly under political control, to be deployed by the government at will to do its bidding. Politicize the IRS IMMEDIATELY.

I thought trump already said he wanted his tax returns released...

Someone in another thread just posted how trump keeps all his commitments made on the campaign trail, are we only counting the commitments that are convenient and have no political cost?

The alternative is much worse: a non-politicized IRS gives me like 3 less things to talk about.

Trump should release his tax returns

Any news on Joe Biden's son? Maybe the IRS should be barking up his kids tree and the connections to Ukraine. Only to make things Fair. There seems to be a lot more evidence of his son doing wrong in the financial sector then Trump. You see that? That's me dropping a political bomb on you dumb fucking leftist. Unfortunately most of you people are like the mrs..... retarded.

Justice should be blind, but Trump is the sitting President and there is sufficient reason to believe that he's lying/hiding something about his tax returns. Remember, it was standing practice to release them for Presidential candidates before Trump, so his insistence on not doing so is cause for alarm.

rdsrds2120 wrote:Justice should be blind, but Trump is the sitting President and there is sufficient reason to believe that he's lying/hiding something about his tax returns. Remember, that was standing practice to release them for Presidential candidates, so an insistence on not doing so is cause for alarm.

If someone chooses or refuses to do something "is sufficient reason to believe that he's lying"???

Is some rufuses to stand for the Nationial Anthem is there sufficient reason to believe they are a foreign spy?

You can ignore the context all that you want, but again, there are different expectations for Presidential candidates (I'm not one), and I would gladly release my returns if I was running.

I would assume you already doctored them

Everyone's guilty to proven innocent.

HitRed wrote:I would assume you already doctored them

Everyone's guilty to proven innocent.

Trump can demand to see President Obama's birth certificate, but demanding to see Trumps tax return is not ok?

HitRed you ignorant cracker!

warmonger1981 wrote:Any news on Joe Biden's son? Maybe the IRS should be barking up his kids tree and the connections to Ukraine. Only to make things Fair. There seems to be a lot more evidence of his son doing wrong in the financial sector then Trump. You see that? That's me dropping a political bomb on you dumb fucking leftist. Unfortunately most of you people are like the mrs..... retarded.

Oh and I thought Joe Biden was running not his son, my mistake

HitRed wrote:I would assume you already doctored them

Everyone's guilty to proven innocent.

On the contrary: we want to see the returns to see if it proves him guilty of credible claims against him.

rdsrds2120 wrote:

HitRed wrote:I would assume you already doctored them

Everyone's guilty to proven innocent.

On the contrary: we want to see the returns to see if it proves him guilty of credible claims against him.

You are pre-assuming guilt again. Prejudice.

I suggest you look up witch hunt.

HitRed wrote:

rdsrds2120 wrote:

HitRed wrote:I would assume you already doctored them

Everyone's guilty to proven innocent.

On the contrary: we want to see the returns to see if it proves him guilty of credible claims against him.

You are pre-assuming guilt again. Prejudice.

I suggest you look up witch hunt.

So, there shouldn't be investigations? What rd is describing is how investigations work. If Trump didn't want questionable business ties investigated, he shouldn't have run for president.

I'm from Salem, I know witch hunts. Spoiler - the witches didn't break an established tradition of voluntarily releasing tax info, the kind of disclosure that would be needed for literally any job in the federal government except for the presidency. They were just young women (and occasionally men) who fell afoul of important men for probably super valid reasons.

mookiemcgee wrote:

warmonger1981 wrote:Any news on Joe Biden's son? Maybe the IRS should be barking up his kids tree and the connections to Ukraine. Only to make things Fair. There seems to be a lot more evidence of his son doing wrong in the financial sector then Trump. You see that? That's me dropping a political bomb on you dumb fucking leftist. Unfortunately most of you people are like the mrs..... retarded.

Oh and I thought Joe Biden was running not his son, my mistake

Read this then get back to me. I suppose this is a big nothing burger.
https://www.worldtribune.com/joe-bidens ... d-his-son/

In December of 2013, Hunter Biden flies on Air Force 2 to Beijing, China, with his father. His father meets with Chinese officials, he’s very soft on Beijing. The most important thing that happens happens 10 days after they return. And that’s when Hunter Biden’s small, private equity firm called Rosemont Seneca Partners gets a $1 billion private equity deal with the Chinese government, not with the Chinese corporation, with the government. And what people need to realize is Hunter Biden has no background in China, he has no background in private equity, the deal he got in the Shanghai free-trade zone, nobody else had. Goldman Sachs, Bank of America, Blackstone, nobody had this deal.”



Biden’s role in the firing of Ukraine Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin in 2016 could prove to be a major issue for the former vice president.

Last year, during a Council on Foreign Relations event, Biden told the audience that he pressed President Petro Poroshenko to fire Shokin, including threatening to withdraw a $1 billion U.S. loan from Ukraine, which had been economically decimated due to its war with Russian forces since 2014.

“I said, ‘You’re not getting the billion.’ I’m going to be leaving here in, I think it was about six hours. I looked at them and said: ‘I’m leaving in six hours. If the prosecutor is not fired, you’re not getting the money,’ ” Biden said he told Poroshenko.

“Well, son of a b—-, he got fired. And they put in place someone who was solid at the time,” Biden added.

Shokin had been working on a corruption probe that implicated the natural gas firm Burisma Holdings, a company that employed Hunter Biden, as a board member, The Hill reported.

OK, once we get done with the business of getting Trump and his cronies out of office for all the hilariously overt corruption they've done, let's look into this. Deal? We're generally agreed that Joe Biden probably shouldn't be the president. But first let's apply your stringent rules to the current administration. Which includes seeing where the hell Donnie's money is, which, again, would be required for literally any job in government except his, which is why customarily everybody has released them.