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'Israel's Sovereignty over the Golan Heights'

PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 1:02 pm
by armati
Trump says it's time for US to recognize 'Israel's Sovereignty over the Golan Heights'

Do people need more proof as to who the U.S. serves?

We could always ask the christians for Israel. :lol:

Its so funny that americans dont see it.

Re: 'Israel's Sovereignty over the Golan Heights'

PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 1:35 pm
by HitRed
Genesis 15:18
In the same day the LORD made a covenant with Abram, saying, Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates:

Trump stopped short.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 1:37 pm
by mookiemcgee
HitRed wrote:Genesis 15:18
In the same day the LORD made a covenant with Abram, saying, Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates:

Trump stopped short.


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Re: 'Israel's Sovereignty over the Golan Heights'

PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 3:54 pm
by waauw
So basically Washington is supporting illegal Isreali expansionism, whilst condemning Russia's expansionism in Crimea, and China's maritime expansionism in the S-China Sea. :roll: More countries should follow Ireland's example in forbidding all Israeli products made on occupied land. Unfortunately, I doubt many will do so.

Re: 'Israel's Sovereignty over the Golan Heights'

PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 4:16 pm
by Mokerslag
Don't talk bulshit like Trump is Dumb. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6LVU3yKzAk

The Zionist are smarther than that, and Trump is one of them.

When i say that Trump is Dumb, it's for that he choose the wrong way.

Develish :( idk like them.

Only one GOD and i love Jesus :)

Re: 'Israel's Sovereignty over the Golan Heights'

PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 4:51 pm
by armati
The "lord" gave the land?
Really? Who heard him say that? I didnt, was it a Jewish guy?
Just kinda makes ya wanna say hmmm

I dont mean to offend, I understand people believe in their religious leaders, books etc.
(personally, I wonder about the credibility of people that hear voices and hallucinate, but thats just me)

I had no intention of pointing out anything to do with religion, merely that the U.S. serves Israel.

Their congress,senate and now their president is serving the foreign nation of Israel, do they have two masters or one?
Does there oath count?

The religion doesnt matter, serving in the american government to serve a foreign nation is treason.
Maybe it isnt, jmo, it should be.

I really didnt see any need to bring religion into it.

Re: 'Israel's Sovereignty over the Golan Heights'

PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 5:04 pm
by mookiemcgee
armati wrote:The "lord" gave the land?
Really? Who heard him say that? I didnt, was it a Jewish guy?
Just kinda makes ya wanna say hmmm

I dont mean to offend, I understand people believe in their religious leaders, books etc.
(personally, I wonder about the credibility of people that hear voices and hallucinate, but thats just me)

I had no intention of pointing out anything to do with religion, merely that the U.S. serves Israel.

Their congress,senate and now their president is serving the foreign nation of Israel, do they have two masters or one?
Does there oath count?

The religion doesnt matter, serving in the american government to serve a foreign nation is treason.
Maybe it isnt, jmo, it should be.

I really didnt see any need to bring religion into it.


The president serves Putin first, Israel second. You should now this based on your sources Chicken Little.

When you say you didn't see any need to bring religion into this, did you read your OP when your brought up a religion right out of the gate?

Re: 'Israel's Sovereignty over the Golan Heights'

PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 5:31 pm
by Symmetry
Mook is right to bring up the Putin thing. This is exactly the kind of international law breaking that should condemn Russia's invasion of Ukraine to seize territory. It's fair to wonder why Trump is so paranoid about his conversations becoming public.

Re: 'Israel's Sovereignty over the Golan Heights'

PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 5:42 pm
by Dukasaur
The Golan Heights are a significant strategic high point from which the Arabs were able to invade Israel at will until Israel seized them. Holding on to those heights is a matter of survival for Israel. When something is a matter of survival, other considerations go out the window, including diplomatic niceties.

Re: 'Israel's Sovereignty over the Golan Heights'

PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 5:58 pm
by Symmetry
Dukasaur wrote:The Golan Heights are a significant strategic high point from which the Arabs were able to invade Israel at will until Israel seized them. Holding on to those heights is a matter of survival for Israel. When something is a matter of survival, other considerations go out the window, including diplomatic niceties.


Ah, "the Arabs". I'm guessing you mean what you say, and are referring to an ethnic group. I don't agree. It was and is part of another country- Syria, a multi-ethnic nation itself that has millions in need of desperate help. Israel is a nuclear power, whose government has recently aspired to become an ethno-state. What kind of threat does Syria pose to Israel? Its government can't even control its own territory.

Maybe we should consider diplomatic niceties like international law. The world is a lot crueler if we don't.

Re: 'Israel's Sovereignty over the Golan Heights'

PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 6:20 pm
by armati
"The president serves Putin first, Israel second. You should now this based on your sources Chicken Little."
Monkee has it all figured. =D>

Sym,
the Russian didnt invade the Ukraine, we overthrew Yanukovych, just as we overthrew countless others before him.
Ukrainians that wouldnt go along with the coup are in the donbass, consider Putin would not let them join Russia when they requested it.

The Crimea was not annexed, the people of Crimea voted to re- join Russia after the coup.

Priceless: dictator schools the west in democracy
https://youtu.be/Zl7vs2Z4nY4

Re: 'Israel's Sovereignty over the Golan Heights'

PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 6:42 pm
by Symmetry
armati wrote:"The president serves Putin first, Israel second. You should now this based on your sources Chicken Little."
Monkee has it all figured. =D>

Sym,
the Russian didnt invade the Ukraine, we overthrew Yanukovych, just as we overthrew countless others before him.
Ukrainians that wouldnt go along with the coup are in the donbass, consider Putin would not let them join Russia when they requested it.

The Crimea was not annexed, the people of Crimea voted to re- join Russia after the coup.

Priceless: dictator schools the west in democracy
https://youtu.be/Zl7vs2Z4nY4


Yeah, right, next time you'll be telling me that Russia didn't down a passenger jet too.

Re: 'Israel's Sovereignty over the Golan Heights'

PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 6:44 pm
by Bernie Sanders
armati wrote:"The president serves Putin first, Israel second. You should now this based on your sources Chicken Little."
Monkee has it all figured. =D>

Sym,
the Russian didnt invade the Ukraine, we overthrew Yanukovych, just as we overthrew countless others before him.
Ukrainians that wouldnt go along with the coup are in the donbass, consider Putin would not let them join Russia when they requested it.

The Crimea was not annexed, the people of Crimea voted to re- join Russia after the coup.

Priceless: dictator schools the west in democracy
https://youtu.be/Zl7vs2Z4nY4






OMG! Armanti is a Russian troll!

Re: 'Israel's Sovereignty over the Golan Heights'

PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 7:10 pm
by armati
You caught me Bernie.

I promote Russia so the U.S. will spend more money on the mic.

We can never have enough weapons.

Re: 'Israel's Sovereignty over the Golan Heights'

PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 7:28 pm
by armati
Pompeo: God May Have Sent Trump To Save Israel From Iran

Is White House policy now being driven by an apocalyptic desire to usher in biblical prophecy?

@zerohedge

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 7:40 pm
by HitRed
armati wrote:Pompeo: God May Have Sent Trump To Save Israel From Iran

Is White House policy now being driven by an apocalyptic desire to usher in biblical prophecy?

@zerohedge


Key Nancy Reagan

Re: 'Israel's Sovereignty over the Golan Heights'

PostPosted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 6:30 am
by Bernie Sanders
HitRed wrote:
armati wrote:Pompeo: God May Have Sent Trump To Save Israel From Iran

Is White House policy now being driven by an apocalyptic desire to usher in biblical prophecy?

@zerohedge


Key Nancy Reagan


Beware the Christians who carry a gun in one hand and with the other hand on the bible.

Fukd up shit! Not exactly following in Jesus footsteps.

Re: 'Israel's Sovereignty over the Golan Heights'

PostPosted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 6:55 am
by warmonger1981
if this is a Christian nation where is all the Christian symbolism? this is not a Christian nation in the traditional sense. show me a capital building with Christian symbols. nowhere does our countries founding documents explicitly say anything about Jesus or his idea or morality. maybe the GAOTU is running this country? or at least the people who believe in that might be runnung things. you people see things in black and white. unfortunately you can't see the rainbow. its like everything is either positive or negative without even realizing the possibility of neutral. silly kids.

Re: 'Israel's Sovereignty over the Golan Heights'

PostPosted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 9:53 am
by armati
Good point warmonger.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 8:22 pm
by Bentelbow

Re: 'Israel's Sovereignty over the Golan Heights'

PostPosted: Thu Mar 28, 2019 7:34 am
by waauw
EU member states unanimously reject Israel's sovereignty over Golan Heights, defying Trump and Netanyahu

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/israel-golan-heights-eu-trump-netanyahu-syria-middle-east-a8843311.html