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9 Facts about Slavery They Don’t Want You To Know

– The first legal slave owner in American history was a black tobacco farmer named Anthony Johnson.

– North Carolina’s largest slave holder in 1860 was a black plantation owner named William Ellison.

– American Indians owned thousands of black slaves.

– In 1830 there were 3,775 free black people who owned 12,740 black slaves.

– Many black slaves were allowed to hold jobs, own businesses, and own real estate.

– Brutal black-on-black slavery was common in Africa for thousands of years.

– Most slaves brought to America from Africa were purchased from black slave owners.

– Slavery was common for thousands of years.

– White people ended legal chattel slavery.

https://www.snopes.com/tachyon/2016/08/ ... .jpg?w=750

I have no idea how good this info from snopes is.
I do know black people were owning slaves in africa for a long time so there is some truth to snopes on this, the barbary wars sorta put a crimp in black people(Moslems) owning slaves, especially white slaves.

Just thought this interesting.

Free blacks owned slaves in a much higher percentage than whites. They probably only did it to keep them safe though lol.

I doubt you'll get any replies to this thread armati. They don't like facts like this here. Maybe a couple of posts calling you x Nazi but debate no.

i just posted cause i thought it interesting.

If ya dont like facts there is always alternative facts.

Who didn't?

Many of us believe in white slavery and other ways to have sex.

One of the things which I discovered when in Ghana was that yes, the local tribes had traditionally engaged in slavery, it was the main reason for warfare (winner gets the enemy as slaves), but the treatment of those slaves was nothing like as vicious as the European treatment of African slaves. Many slaves were sold to the Europeans by other tribes, but whether they realised how different the treatment would be, I don't know.

Another fact for your list: according to my "History of Ghana", most slaves went to South America, not North.

First slave ship to America was called Jesus.

These aren't "facts about slavery they don't want you to know". Half of these are universally known facts. Everybody who's ever held even a single book on african history knows this.

jonesthecurl wrote:One of the things which I discovered when in Ghana was that yes, the local tribes had traditionally engaged in slavery, it was the main reason for warfare (winner gets the enemy as slaves), but the treatment of those slaves was nothing like as vicious as the European treatment of African slaves. Many slaves were sold to the Europeans by other tribes, but whether they realised how different the treatment would be, I don't know.

Another fact for your list: according to my "History of Ghana", most slaves went to South America, not North.

Might depend on which part of Africa you're talking about. The Congo basin for instance was used to much worse conditions than those seen in the western world. Cannibalism was an everyday occurence until the early 20th century.

waauw wrote:These aren't "facts about slavery they don't want you to know". Half of these are universally known facts. Everybody who's ever held even a single book on african history knows this.

jonesthecurl wrote:One of the things which I discovered when in Ghana was that yes, the local tribes had traditionally engaged in slavery, it was the main reason for warfare (winner gets the enemy as slaves), but the treatment of those slaves was nothing like as vicious as the European treatment of African slaves. Many slaves were sold to the Europeans by other tribes, but whether they realised how different the treatment would be, I don't know.

Another fact for your list: according to my "History of Ghana", most slaves went to South America, not North.

Might depend on which part of Africa you're talking about. The Congo basin for instance was used to much worse conditions than those seen in the western world. Cannibalism was an everyday occurence until the early 20th century.

You fukn Belgium bastards destroyed the African culture in The Congo.

The worst decision that Europe made was to create Belgium.

Bernie Sanders wrote:

waauw wrote:These aren't "facts about slavery they don't want you to know". Half of these are universally known facts. Everybody who's ever held even a single book on african history knows this.

jonesthecurl wrote:One of the things which I discovered when in Ghana was that yes, the local tribes had traditionally engaged in slavery, it was the main reason for warfare (winner gets the enemy as slaves), but the treatment of those slaves was nothing like as vicious as the European treatment of African slaves. Many slaves were sold to the Europeans by other tribes, but whether they realised how different the treatment would be, I don't know.

Another fact for your list: according to my "History of Ghana", most slaves went to South America, not North.

Might depend on which part of Africa you're talking about. The Congo basin for instance was used to much worse conditions than those seen in the western world. Cannibalism was an everyday occurence until the early 20th century.

You fukn Belgium bastards destroyed the African culture in The Congo.

The worst decision that Europe made was to create Belgium.

I like how you capitalized 'The' Congo, as in that it's the one and only Congo, as opposed to the french Congo Brazzaville.

waauw wrote:

Bernie Sanders wrote:

waauw wrote:These aren't "facts about slavery they don't want you to know". Half of these are universally known facts. Everybody who's ever held even a single book on african history knows this.

jonesthecurl wrote:One of the things which I discovered when in Ghana was that yes, the local tribes had traditionally engaged in slavery, it was the main reason for warfare (winner gets the enemy as slaves), but the treatment of those slaves was nothing like as vicious as the European treatment of African slaves. Many slaves were sold to the Europeans by other tribes, but whether they realised how different the treatment would be, I don't know.

Another fact for your list: according to my "History of Ghana", most slaves went to South America, not North.

Might depend on which part of Africa you're talking about. The Congo basin for instance was used to much worse conditions than those seen in the western world. Cannibalism was an everyday occurence until the early 20th century.

You fukn Belgium bastards destroyed the African culture in The Congo.

The worst decision that Europe made was to create Belgium.

I like how you capitalized 'The' Congo, as in that it's the one and only Congo, as opposed to the french Congo Brazzaville.

We ain't talking French Congo. I said Belgium bastards, not the civilized French.

Bernie, your right about those Leopold Belgians, complete scum.
Another group evil would be proud of.

armati wrote:Bernie, your right about those Leopold Belgians, complete scum.
Another group evil would be proud of.

Mark your calendars! Armati, Bern, and Jonesey agree on something!

a) Who is the "they" in the thread title? The evil conspiracy that seeks to remind Americans of the recent history of slave chattel in our country, including a war fought to defend that institution? An evil conspiracy, to say the least.

b) I looked up that William Edison asshole. He owned 53 slaves per Wikipedia. While that is 53 more slaves than he should have owned, I have a hard time believing that there weren't worse people in the great state of North Carolina in 1860. Also fun fact he was a major booster of the Confederacy, as they obviously represented his interests well, being a slave owner himself.

c) The "black people owned slaves 2" defense is a really bad one. The actions of the Barbary States (which we totally learn about in school) don't excuse the horrors of slavery in the US.

Is putting all the blame for slavery on white Americans a hoax:

occidentaldissent.com/2012/08/25/jews-slavery-and-dixie/

counter-currents.com/2012/08/jews-and-slavery-three-books-by-the-nation-of-islam/

archive.org/details/Dr.TonyMartinTheJewishOnslaught

forward.com/culture/art/310222/jewish-slavery-caribbean-exhibition/

archive.org/details/JewsAndNegroSlaveryInTheOldSouth1789-1865

docplayer.net/32288033-The-secret-relationship-between-blacks-and-jews.html

davidduke.com/since-white-people-are-routinely-condemned-for-200-years-of-slavery-in-america-why-are-jews-not-condemned-for-their-leading-role-in-slave-trade-over-the-last-2000-years/

noirg.org/articles/rabbi-bertram-korn-speaks-jews-in-the-slave-trade/

noirg.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/Jews-and-Negro-Slavery-in-the-Old-South-1789-1865_text.pdf

justice4poland.com/2016/07/21/world-wide-white-slave-trade-centred-in-israel/

uprootedpalestinian.wordpress.com/2009/09/11/the-jewish-slave-trade/

holywar.org/jewishtr/08slave.htm

nationalvanguard.org/2016/03/jews-and-the-white-slave-trade-2/

nytimes.com/1998/01/11/world/contraband-women-a-special-report-traffickers-new-cargo-naive-slavic-women.html

watchmanreports.com/jews-and-the-early-slave-trade-part-1/

occidentaldissent.com/2012/08/28/caribbean-project-jews-slavery-and-the-dutch-caribbean/

Maybe the "they" is in one of these links.

Bernie Sanders wrote:We ain't talking French Congo. I said Belgium bastards, not the civilized French.

Oh Bern! I do think you made personal growth today. This is the first time I ever heard you speak positively about France. Now, of course I agree Leopold II is a brutal monster. He's widely regarded as the greatest stain on our Belgian history, a bit like your american genocide of the indians.

And I actually somewhat concur that the creation of Belgium was a mistake.

52% of British people agree with you.

One of the problems of the discussion of slavery in the United States is the basic underlying situation with slavery itself. Prior to the Civil War, slavery was, for all practical purposes, CRAP. It was a byproduct of an agricultural economy; an economy that relied mostly on exports. It’s a barely sustainable model for a colony, since agriculture is basically a raw material that can be shipped to the home country, but even then it flat out sucks for long term economic development.

As a result, most of the Founding Fathers in the agricultural south tended to go massively into debt the moment that the export market shut down and the relatively short shelf life agriculture started to rot away. Of all the Founding Fathers, only Washington was the exception because he grew grain and when the market died he merely turned his grain into long shelf life booze. Since slaves were “property” a landowner faced with debt due to lack of exports was forced to “sell” his “property” to repay his debts. Ironically, the number one stupid crop for long term investment at the time was tobacco; the biggest crop in the southern colonies and later states at the time.

It was not until the invention of the cotton gin that an agricultural profit base could be firmly established. By then the “peculiar institution” was dying of its own accord. It was only the firm insistence of the “Fire Eaters” to restart the slave trade against all international norms at the time that we get the build up to the Civil War.

All of this is merely a backdrop to the larger problem that everyone practically speaking was a racist. Even in the non slavery north bigotry and segregation was the norm. It is this bigotry, which, frankly, can even be seen in Lincoln himself, which allowed the drive to keep the “peculiar institution” alive and kicking. In the end, all these horrid types of “American Style” slavery stem from superiority complexes imposing the will of the superior upon the inferior. America, however, had this attitude in spades. It was so extreme that when the Nazi’s studied the American segregation laws to determine their application towards the Jewish influence in their gene pool, they considered it too extreme because it would have isolated the German pure population to only a small percentage of the overall population. (And probably would have eliminated the very people trying to make the laws in the first place.)