muhammad ali - the greatest

A friend announced on saturday that muhammad ali was the most overrated sportsman ever. This is an insane thing to say, isn't it? He was the greatest sportsman of all time. There can be no argument.
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dyingfetus wrote:I can't doubt Ali's skills, i just hate him.
I don't know about BEST EVER though
heavycola wrote:dyingfetus wrote:I can't doubt Ali's skills, i just hate him.
I don't know about BEST EVER though
why hate?
And who is greater IYO?
dyingfetus wrote:He may have been one of the best boxers of all time, but I wouldn't call him the best athlete of all time, he may suck at football, or be a terrible weightlifter. So those guys are better than him.....at their respective events.
heavycola wrote:A friend announced on saturday that muhammad ali was the most overrated sportsman ever. This is an insane thing to say, isn't it? He was the greatest sportsman of all time. There can be no argument.
Ronnie_K wrote:dyingfetus wrote:He may have been one of the best boxers of all time, but I wouldn't call him the best athlete of all time, he may suck at football, or be a terrible weightlifter. So those guys are better than him.....at their respective events.
Hey You You're A Shower!
Thats Racist!
Ali Is The Best Boxer
And Best Footballer
dyingfetus wrote:He may have been one of the best boxers of all time, but I wouldn't call him the best athlete of all time, he may suck at football, or be a terrible weightlifter. So those guys are better than him.....at their respective events.
heavycola wrote:dyingfetus wrote:He may have been one of the best boxers of all time, but I wouldn't call him the best athlete of all time, he may suck at football, or be a terrible weightlifter. So those guys are better than him.....at their respective events.
well yeah but every sport has its legends. Ali was the greatest boxer of all time, pele or maradona was the greatest footballer, maybe tiger will be the greatest golfer... but to be the greatest sportsman/woman you have to transcend sport. Ali did that. He was a poet, a conscientious objector, a showman...
PS after his cornerman widened an existing hole in his glove to buy some time, he took 'enry cooper to pieces
Huckleberryhound wrote:heavycola wrote:dyingfetus wrote:He may have been one of the best boxers of all time, but I wouldn't call him the best athlete of all time, he may suck at football, or be a terrible weightlifter. So those guys are better than him.....at their respective events.
well yeah but every sport has its legends. Ali was the greatest boxer of all time, pele or maradona was the greatest footballer, maybe tiger will be the greatest golfer... but to be the greatest sportsman/woman you have to transcend sport. Ali did that. He was a poet, a conscientious objector, a showman...
PS after his cornerman widened an existing hole in his glove to buy some time, he took 'enry cooper to pieces
What they did was...cheated.
They widened the hole to buy him enough time, because he was losing his title to the better sportsman...it was a traversty and he doesn't deserve the name "sportsman" after that unsporting show.
heavycola wrote:Huckleberryhound wrote:heavycola wrote:dyingfetus wrote:He may have been one of the best boxers of all time, but I wouldn't call him the best athlete of all time, he may suck at football, or be a terrible weightlifter. So those guys are better than him.....at their respective events.
well yeah but every sport has its legends. Ali was the greatest boxer of all time, pele or maradona was the greatest footballer, maybe tiger will be the greatest golfer... but to be the greatest sportsman/woman you have to transcend sport. Ali did that. He was a poet, a conscientious objector, a showman...
PS after his cornerman widened an existing hole in his glove to buy some time, he took 'enry cooper to pieces
Talk crap.
Henry Cooper beat Ali...end of.
What they did was...cheated.
They widened the hole to buy him enough time, because he was losing his title to the better sportsman...it was a traversty and he doesn't deserve the name "sportsman" after that unsporting show.
it wasn't a title fight, and you can't blame him for what his trainer did. Anyway henry cooper used to fill his gloves with nails and throw glitter into his opponents' faces
Gold Knight wrote:Ronnie_K wrote:dyingfetus wrote:He may have been one of the best boxers of all time, but I wouldn't call him the best athlete of all time, he may suck at football, or be a terrible weightlifter. So those guys are better than him.....at their respective events.
Hey You You're A Shower!
Thats Racist!
Ali Is The Best Boxer
And Best Footballer
What kind of insult is calling someone a shower????
Anyway... I definately wouldnt say best athlete of all time, but he was pretty damn close. Best boxer i'd say by a long shot, though Frazier was a close second for giving Ali his toughest competition. But its hard to say best athlete, becuase alll sports are so varied. Say golf, you dont have to be athletic (ex. John Daly), but can still be awesome.
Ronnie_K wrote:dyingfetus wrote:He may have been one of the best boxers of all time, but I wouldn't call him the best athlete of all time, he may suck at football, or be a terrible weightlifter. So those guys are better than him.....at their respective events.
Hey You You're A Shower!
Thats Racist!
Ali Is The Best Boxer
And Best Footballer
Bigfalcon65 wrote:Gold Knight wrote:Ronnie_K wrote:dyingfetus wrote:He may have been one of the best boxers of all time, but I wouldn't call him the best athlete of all time, he may suck at football, or be a terrible weightlifter. So those guys are better than him.....at their respective events.
Hey You You're A Shower!
Thats Racist!
Ali Is The Best Boxer
And Best Footballer
What kind of insult is calling someone a shower????
Anyway... I definately wouldnt say best athlete of all time, but he was pretty damn close. Best boxer i'd say by a long shot, though Frazier was a close second for giving Ali his toughest competition. But its hard to say best athlete, becuase alll sports are so varied. Say golf, you dont have to be athletic (ex. John Daly), but can still be awesome.
Ali is not the best all time, but take nothing away from him hes very very very good
Bigfalcon65 wrote:Gold Knight wrote:Ronnie_K wrote:dyingfetus wrote:He may have been one of the best boxers of all time, but I wouldn't call him the best athlete of all time, he may suck at football, or be a terrible weightlifter. So those guys are better than him.....at their respective events.
Hey You You're A Shower!
Thats Racist!
Ali Is The Best Boxer
And Best Footballer
What kind of insult is calling someone a shower????
Anyway... I definately wouldnt say best athlete of all time, but he was pretty damn close. Best boxer i'd say by a long shot, though Frazier was a close second for giving Ali his toughest competition. But its hard to say best athlete, becuase alll sports are so varied. Say golf, you dont have to be athletic (ex. John Daly), but can still be awesome.
Ali is not the best all time, but take nothing away from him hes very very very good
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