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Best English Monarch?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2017 1:13 am
by DoomYoshi
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Re: Best English Monarch?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2017 2:48 am
by mrswdk
Meghan Merkel.

Re: Best English Monarch?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2017 5:32 am
by Bernie Sanders
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Re: Best English Monarch?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2017 7:19 am
by waauw
William the Conqueror.

Re: Best English Monarch?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2017 7:40 am
by Dukasaur
Elizabeth I

Re: Best English Monarch?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2017 5:38 pm
by Symmetry
Kings:

Edward III was pretty badass, as was Henry V. Nowadays beating the French is kinda boring though.

Henry VII (count the I's, people) is underrated.

Charles II is fun.

Queens:
I don't think we've had a Queen who less than awesome. Mary terrifies Protestants to this day. Elizabeth one- hell Judi Dench won an Oscar for playing her for like 5 minutes. Mary 2- first example of gender equality in a monarchy. Anne- great furniture.

Re: Best English Monarch?

PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2017 2:21 am
by mrswdk
Best British queen is obviously you, Sym. Duh.

Re: Best English Monarch?

PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2017 10:00 am
by pickleofdoom
Alfred the Great, on account of being great. Edward the Confessor, on account of being a confessor and then patron saint of England for some centuries until Saint George usurped him. Edgar the Peaceable for being so peaceable.

Re: Best English Monarch?

PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2017 10:11 am
by tzor
Harold Godwinson
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Re: Best English Monarch?

PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2017 3:52 pm
by Dukasaur
tzor wrote:Harold Godwinson
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Sister Miriam Godwinson

Re: Best English Monarch?

PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2017 5:20 pm
by DoomYoshi
pickleofdoom wrote:Alfred the Great, on account of being great. Edward the Confessor, on account of being a confessor and then patron saint of England for some centuries until Saint George usurped him. Edgar the Peaceable for being so peaceable.


Cunt the great was also great. Maybe even greater than Alfred.

Re: Best English Monarch?

PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2017 8:53 pm
by Symmetry
mrswdk wrote:Best British queen is obviously you, Sym. Duh.


Aww- you made me blush.

Re: Best English Monarch?

PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2017 9:05 pm
by Symmetry
pickleofdoom wrote:Alfred the Great, on account of being great. Edward the Confessor, on account of being a confessor and then patron saint of England for some centuries until Saint George usurped him. Edgar the Peaceable for being so peaceable.


You might want to be careful about how epithets are used. "The Confessor" wasn't really meant entirely as a compliment, for example. Prior to 1066, just attaching an epithet was kind of the way to distinguish between kings with the same name. Ethelred the Unready is a fun read on wiki.

Otherwise, I guess from the suggestions so far, there's a bit of a difference of opinion as to what an "English Monarch" means. Is it a monarch who is English? A monarch of England? A monarch of part of England?

Re: Best English Monarch?

PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2017 9:11 pm
by Thorthoth
Dukasaur wrote:Image
Sister Miriam Godwinson

Why don't you make that quote your sig, Duk. It's almost a rephrasing of the one Sym has.
In both cases, the threat of a tyrannical 'moral' crusade looms large.
Beware the man that can confidently separate 'good' from 'evil', for indeed, all things are possible with the might of such DELUSION.
The mad beasts of FREE EXPRESSION (wild & true) must flee in panic before the rapacious holiness of the witch-hunts of the holy and (self-)rightous.

Viva Cannibalism! Viva Rhodesia! Viva the 'N-word',
Viva llama pelt carpets! Viva the fossilization of extinct tyrants!
and most of all, Viva BUMPING, be it living or dead!!!

Re: Best English Monarch?

PostPosted: Sat Sep 30, 2017 1:57 am
by jonesthecurl
Symmetry wrote:
pickleofdoom wrote:Alfred the Great, on account of being great. Edward the Confessor, on account of being a confessor and then patron saint of England for some centuries until Saint George usurped him. Edgar the Peaceable for being so peaceable.


You might want to be careful about how epithets are used. "The Confessor" wasn't really meant entirely as a compliment, for example. Prior to 1066, just attaching an epithet was kind of the way to distinguish between kings with the same name. Ethelred the Unready is a fun read on wiki.

Otherwise, I guess from the suggestions so far, there's a bit of a difference of opinion as to what an "English Monarch" means. Is it a monarch who is English? A monarch of England? A monarch of part of England?


On that subject, take a look at when Alfred became known as "the Great".

Re: Best English Monarch?

PostPosted: Sat Sep 30, 2017 8:16 am
by DoomYoshi
Symmetry wrote:
pickleofdoom wrote:Alfred the Great, on account of being great. Edward the Confessor, on account of being a confessor and then patron saint of England for some centuries until Saint George usurped him. Edgar the Peaceable for being so peaceable.


You might want to be careful about how epithets are used. "The Confessor" wasn't really meant entirely as a compliment, for example. Prior to 1066, just attaching an epithet was kind of the way to distinguish between kings with the same name. Ethelred the Unready is a fun read on wiki.

Otherwise, I guess from the suggestions so far, there's a bit of a difference of opinion as to what an "English Monarch" means. Is it a monarch who is English? A monarch of England? A monarch of part of England?


The Confessor is always used as a compliment, except among pagans. The term comes from the one of the latter Roman persecutions of Christians when the emperor decided that rather than killing the Christians, he would just torture them. Some still died (Origen) as Martyrs but those who lived without recanting their faith in Christ became known as Confessors. The reason this epithet applies to Edward was because ruling the sad sack of people known as the English is certainly a torture, as evidenced by by this very forum.

Any of your definitions for English Monarch is acceptable. You will note that both of my suggestions are Scandinavian.

Re: Best English Monarch?

PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2017 3:03 pm
by Symmetry
DoomYoshi wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
pickleofdoom wrote:Alfred the Great, on account of being great. Edward the Confessor, on account of being a confessor and then patron saint of England for some centuries until Saint George usurped him. Edgar the Peaceable for being so peaceable.


You might want to be careful about how epithets are used. "The Confessor" wasn't really meant entirely as a compliment, for example. Prior to 1066, just attaching an epithet was kind of the way to distinguish between kings with the same name. Ethelred the Unready is a fun read on wiki.

Otherwise, I guess from the suggestions so far, there's a bit of a difference of opinion as to what an "English Monarch" means. Is it a monarch who is English? A monarch of England? A monarch of part of England?


The Confessor is always used as a compliment, except among pagans. The term comes from the one of the latter Roman persecutions of Christians when the emperor decided that rather than killing the Christians, he would just torture them. Some still died (Origen) as Martyrs but those who lived without recanting their faith in Christ became known as Confessors. The reason this epithet applies to Edward was because ruling the sad sack of people known as the English is certainly a torture, as evidenced by by this very forum.
Any of your definitions for English Monarch is acceptable. You will note that both of my suggestions are Scandinavian.


I think there may well be a degree of irony involved in his epithet. I'm just going by memory here, but wiki seems to back me up (for what it's worth)- he was considered a bit over-pious and not a great ruler when it came to secular matters like running a kingdom.

So, no, not always a compliment.

Sadly signed,

Sym

Re: Best English Monarch?

PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2017 6:23 pm
by DoomYoshi
There's no such thing as over-pious.

Re: Best English Monarch?

PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2017 9:41 pm
by Thorthoth
Symmetry wrote:
Edward III was pretty badass...

I would have thought you would find his father Ed II to be the bad ass/arse, especially after getting red hot pokered. :D

Re: Best English Monarch?

PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2017 9:55 pm
by TeeGee
Thorthoth wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
Edward III was pretty badass...

I would have thought you would find his father Ed II to be the bad ass/arse, especially after getting red hot pokered. :D


Test again :)

Re: Best English Monarch?

PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2017 10:07 pm
by DoomYoshi
TeeGee wrote:
Thorthoth wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
Edward III was pretty badass...

I would have thought you would find his father Ed II to be the bad ass/arse, especially after getting red hot pokered. :D


Test again :)


I see what you did there.