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tzor wrote:Harold Godwinson
pickleofdoom wrote:Alfred the Great, on account of being great. Edward the Confessor, on account of being a confessor and then patron saint of England for some centuries until Saint George usurped him. Edgar the Peaceable for being so peaceable.
mrswdk wrote:Best British queen is obviously you, Sym. Duh.
pickleofdoom wrote:Alfred the Great, on account of being great. Edward the Confessor, on account of being a confessor and then patron saint of England for some centuries until Saint George usurped him. Edgar the Peaceable for being so peaceable.
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Symmetry wrote:pickleofdoom wrote:Alfred the Great, on account of being great. Edward the Confessor, on account of being a confessor and then patron saint of England for some centuries until Saint George usurped him. Edgar the Peaceable for being so peaceable.
You might want to be careful about how epithets are used. "The Confessor" wasn't really meant entirely as a compliment, for example. Prior to 1066, just attaching an epithet was kind of the way to distinguish between kings with the same name. Ethelred the Unready is a fun read on wiki.
Otherwise, I guess from the suggestions so far, there's a bit of a difference of opinion as to what an "English Monarch" means. Is it a monarch who is English? A monarch of England? A monarch of part of England?
Symmetry wrote:pickleofdoom wrote:Alfred the Great, on account of being great. Edward the Confessor, on account of being a confessor and then patron saint of England for some centuries until Saint George usurped him. Edgar the Peaceable for being so peaceable.
You might want to be careful about how epithets are used. "The Confessor" wasn't really meant entirely as a compliment, for example. Prior to 1066, just attaching an epithet was kind of the way to distinguish between kings with the same name. Ethelred the Unready is a fun read on wiki.
Otherwise, I guess from the suggestions so far, there's a bit of a difference of opinion as to what an "English Monarch" means. Is it a monarch who is English? A monarch of England? A monarch of part of England?
DoomYoshi wrote:Symmetry wrote:pickleofdoom wrote:Alfred the Great, on account of being great. Edward the Confessor, on account of being a confessor and then patron saint of England for some centuries until Saint George usurped him. Edgar the Peaceable for being so peaceable.
You might want to be careful about how epithets are used. "The Confessor" wasn't really meant entirely as a compliment, for example. Prior to 1066, just attaching an epithet was kind of the way to distinguish between kings with the same name. Ethelred the Unready is a fun read on wiki.
Otherwise, I guess from the suggestions so far, there's a bit of a difference of opinion as to what an "English Monarch" means. Is it a monarch who is English? A monarch of England? A monarch of part of England?
The Confessor is always used as a compliment, except among pagans. The term comes from the one of the latter Roman persecutions of Christians when the emperor decided that rather than killing the Christians, he would just torture them. Some still died (Origen) as Martyrs but those who lived without recanting their faith in Christ became known as Confessors. The reason this epithet applies to Edward was because ruling the sad sack of people known as the English is certainly a torture, as evidenced by by this very forum.
Any of your definitions for English Monarch is acceptable. You will note that both of my suggestions are Scandinavian.
Symmetry wrote:
Edward III was pretty badass...
Thorthoth wrote:Symmetry wrote:
Edward III was pretty badass...
I would have thought you would find his father Ed II to be the bad ass/arse, especially after getting red hot pokered.
TeeGee wrote:Thorthoth wrote:Symmetry wrote:
Edward III was pretty badass...
I would have thought you would find his father Ed II to be the bad ass/arse, especially after getting red hot pokered.
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