Democrats now just party of opposition with nothing to say
Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 12:04 pm
by mrswdk
The Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee - the group that will help organise what the party hopes will be a successful push to take control of US House of Representatives in mid-term US elections next year - recently tested out some new bumper-sticker slogans.
It did not go well.
There were several variations on the resist/persist theme and one that promised to "Make Congress blue again", referencing the colour associated with the Democratic Party on electoral maps.
Drawing the most attention - and scorn - however was: "Democrats 2018: I mean, have you seen the other guys?"
Re: Democrats now just party of opposition with nothing to s
Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 2:09 pm
by mookiemcgee
You mean like the rep were for the last 8 years?
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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 2:40 pm
by saxitoxin
mrswdk wrote:
The Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee - the group that will help organise what the party hopes will be a successful push to take control of US House of Representatives in mid-term US elections next year - recently tested out some new bumper-sticker slogans.
It did not go well.
There were several variations on the resist/persist theme and one that promised to "Make Congress blue again", referencing the colour associated with the Democratic Party on electoral maps.
Drawing the most attention - and scorn - however was: "Democrats 2018: I mean, have you seen the other guys?"
Drew Magary of GQ was even more blunt. "The political hopes of a majority of Americans currently reside in the hands of a party that has all the strategic acumen of Elmer Fudd.
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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 2:42 pm
by saxitoxin
mookiemcgee wrote:You mean like the rep were for the last 8 years?
The difference is the Republicans had legislative power for six of the last eight years. The Democrats are both voiceless and powerless. It's unclear if they will still, in fact, even exist after the 2018 mid-terms. They are currently in the process of de-evolving into the "Blue Sims Party" -
You and the decrepit old policy of paranoia, fear, perpetual storm clouds, and war of the last 8 years is done and buried forever. A bright new future of sunshine, peace, friendly relations with foreign countries, and talented pop stars instead of shrieking she-devils is coming. Bye-bye, Katy Perry! Hello, Dima Bilan!
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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 11:45 am
by tzor
saxitoxin wrote:The difference is the Republicans had legislative power for six of the last eight years. The Democrats are both voiceless and powerless. It's unclear if they will still, in fact, even exist after the 2018 mid-terms.
Oh I wouldn't say that. Democrats continue to hold a significant amount of "power" ... they just don't hold "office." They still hold enough power in the courts to delay Trumps immigration ban for over six months. They have managed to slow walk all of Trump's nominations and forced the Republicans to use the "nuclear" option for a supreme court nomination which has almost never been filibustered before. They have managed to easily stall both the repeal of Obamacare and Tax reform.
They wield the power of paramilitary organizations like Black Lives Matter and the whole Mainstream Media Complex. They are not going to go away in a couple of years. They will only become more violent. They will not die quietly.
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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 1:39 pm
by mookiemcgee
tzor wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:The difference is the Republicans had legislative power for six of the last eight years. The Democrats are both voiceless and powerless. It's unclear if they will still, in fact, even exist after the 2018 mid-terms.
Oh I wouldn't say that. Democrats continue to hold a significant amount of "power" ... they just don't hold "office." They still hold enough power in the courts to delay Trumps immigration ban for over six months. They have managed to slow walk all of Trump's nominations and forced the Republicans to use the "nuclear" option for a supreme court nomination which has almost never been filibustered before. They have managed to easily stall both the repeal of Obamacare and Tax reform.
They wield the power of paramilitary organizations like Black Lives Matter and the whole Mainstream Media Complex. They are not going to go away in a couple of years. They will only become more violent. They will not die quietly.
Yeah, yeah, yeah...and the right hold the power of paramilitary organizations like the minute men project and the bundy crew as well as the Alt Right Media Complex. They also held up basically every bill of the last 6 years, as well as actually preventing a vote on a Supreme Court Justice altogether which has never before been done (not almost never like what you accuse the 'evil other party' of). I think it's the ineptitude of the rep party that is holding up the repeal of obamacare and tax reform. If Rep could agree they could pass: ANYTHING THEY WANT RIGHT NOW WITHOUT A SINGLE VOTE IN EITHER HOUSE FROM THE DEMS...
Sorry Tzor, I don't think your an idiot sandwhich i just really wanted to use this meme i found.
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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 10:07 am
by tzor
mookiemcgee wrote:Yeah, yeah, yeah...and the right hold the power of paramilitary organizations like the minute men project and the bundy crew as well as the Alt Right Media Complex.
They do? The Minutemen Project has been defunct since at least last year, Whatever Happened to Arizona's Minutemen? Other than patrolling the border they really didn't do anything to push a Right agenda.
The Bundy Crew were acquitted last year. Other than attempt to revive the case by the FBI by attempting a fake documentary, that's old news too.
And the "Alt Right Media Complex" is fake news; an insult to anyone who dares attack the Mainstream Media. There is no "Alt Right" And it's not even that "Complex."
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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 12:51 pm
by mookiemcgee
tzor wrote:
mookiemcgee wrote:Yeah, yeah, yeah...and the right hold the power of paramilitary organizations like the minute men project and the bundy crew as well as the Alt Right Media Complex.
There is no "Alt Right"
I beg to differ
The article you site about the minute men states this in its opening paragraph - "Today, the group has splintered into several rival factions, many of which still regularly patrol the border."
The same will likely happen to the black lives matter movement over a few years, just as so many other protest movements come and go. Remember 'occupy'? Calling BLM a paramilitary organization is completely disingenuous and you know it.
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Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 7:14 pm
by Woodruff
tzor wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:The difference is the Republicans had legislative power for six of the last eight years. The Democrats are both voiceless and powerless. It's unclear if they will still, in fact, even exist after the 2018 mid-terms.
Oh I wouldn't say that. Democrats continue to hold a significant amount of "power" ... they just don't hold "office." They still hold enough power in the courts to delay Trumps immigration ban for over six months. They have managed to slow walk all of Trump's nominations and forced the Republicans to use the "nuclear" option for a supreme court nomination which has almost never been filibustered before. They have managed to easily stall both the repeal of Obamacare and Tax reform.
They wield the power of paramilitary organizations like Black Lives Matter and the whole Mainstream Media Complex. They are not going to go away in a couple of years. They will only become more violent. They will not die quietly.
tzor, if you believe that the Democrats had anything at all to do with stalling the repeal of Obamacare, you are simply being willfully ignorant. Try to be different than our President...stop getting all of your information from Fox News, Breitbart, and InfoWars.
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Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 7:18 pm
by karel
best thing the democraps can do is disband them selves and start over,all they have done for last 8 yrs is kill this country,bush was no better but dick bag obama made it worse then it has ever been
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Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2017 5:38 am
by Bernie Sanders
karel wrote:best thing the democraps can do is disband them selves and start over,all they have done for last 8 yrs is kill this country,bush was no better but dick bag obama made it worse then it has ever been
Karel, what College did you attend? The way you express your thoughts is insightful and entertaining.
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Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2017 10:08 am
by tzor
Woodruff wrote:tzor, if you believe that the Democrats had anything at all to do with stalling the repeal of Obamacare, you are simply being willfully ignorant. Try to be different than our President...stop getting all of your information from Fox News, Breitbart, and InfoWars.
I"m not getting information from the President. Here is how they do it. Democrats whisper talking points ... The Mainstream Media picks it up ... RINOS (who always want to be loved by the MSM becuase they want to be elected forever) echo the talking points ... RINOS step in and block the process.
See that? Democrats still wield power (BECAUSE RINOS ARE SO STUPID) even when they can't actually physically cause events to happen, they can manipulate others to do that for them. Like when a certain FBI director leaked out his own memos so that weak in the knees Republicans would appoint a special prosecutor and get the AG to recuse himself.
Now look at it, the Democrats are saying that if Trump does nothing with the health care system THEY CREATED WITH ZERO REPUBLICAN SUPPORT, then he owns the system that they created with zero Republican support. The RINOS will be echoing that shortly. How much you want to bet that more and more RINOS are going to be calling for Single Payer?
(Evil thought: I wonder how McCain would fare under "the complete lives system" that single payer would structure itself under. Then again, "Socialism is for the people, not the socialists" which is why most of the lawmakers don't give a flying you know what about the quality of health care because they aren't under it, and they don't care about the affordability of health care because they will be dead when China stops renewing the debt and wants hard currency - and not worthless US Dollars by that point - from the backs of all Americans.)
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Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2017 12:42 pm
by Woodruff
tzor wrote:
Woodruff wrote:tzor, if you believe that the Democrats had anything at all to do with stalling the repeal of Obamacare, you are simply being willfully ignorant. Try to be different than our President...stop getting all of your information from Fox News, Breitbart, and InfoWars.
I"m not getting information from the President. Here is how they do it. Democrats whisper talking points ... The Mainstream Media picks it up ... RINOS (who always want to be loved by the MSM becuase they want to be elected forever) echo the talking points ... RINOS step in and block the process.
1. The Freedom Caucus certainly isn't a bunch of RINOs. Where do you get this idea?
2. These "RINOs" are actually Republicans. Not Democrats. You're blaming the Democrats for what the Republicans are doing.
Why are you so dishonest? Are your positions so untenable, so absolutely indefensible, that you feel you have to misrepresent them just to "win"? People like you don't even give a shit about America "being great again" - you just want to "win", and it's despicable treachery on your part.
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Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2017 6:03 pm
by Bernie Sanders
......meanwhile the real Republicans that Tzor...admires are helping Trump suck the appendages of Putin.
Party before Country! Heil Trump!
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Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2017 6:44 pm
by karel
Bernie Sanders wrote:
karel wrote:best thing the democraps can do is disband them selves and start over,all they have done for last 8 yrs is kill this country,bush was no better but dick bag obama made it worse then it has ever been
Karel, what College did you attend? The way you express your thoughts is insightful and entertaining.
so you saying going to collage makes you smarter? problem is you lame brains have no clue whats going on in this country,you all would rather have us ran over by muslims/mexicans,for your info melting pot ended 100 yrs ago,times have changed,so go back to your basement,your kind is nothing but a bunch of haters
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Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2017 6:48 pm
by Bernie Sanders
karel wrote:
Bernie Sanders wrote:
karel wrote:best thing the democraps can do is disband them selves and start over,all they have done for last 8 yrs is kill this country,bush was no better but dick bag obama made it worse then it has ever been
Karel, what College did you attend? The way you express your thoughts is insightful and entertaining.
so you saying going to collage makes you smarter? problem is you lame brains have no clue whats going on in this country,you all would rather have us ran over by muslims/mexicans,for your info melting pot ended 100 yrs ago,times have changed,so go back to your basement,your kind is nothing but a bunch of haters
I'm a hater? Read your posts....moron.
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Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2017 11:10 pm
by karel
hmm i hate,ok bro i believe everyone has a chance to come to here the right way,so that makes me a racist?do you see the kkk out destroying shit,no,but Obama blm is all about hate,so tel me what hate is about moron,hell your party would let isis in cuz you all feel sorry for them
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Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 1:28 am
by muy_thaiguy
karel wrote:hmm i hate,ok bro i believe everyone has a chance to come to here the right way,so that makes me a racist?do you see the kkk out destroying shit,no,but Obama blm is all about hate,so tel me what hate is about moron,hell your party would let isis in cuz you all feel sorry for them
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Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 5:52 am
by Bernie Sanders
karel wrote:hmm i hate,ok bro i believe everyone has a chance to come to here the right way,so that makes me a racist?do you see the kkk out destroying shit,no,but Obama blm is all about hate,so tel me what hate is about moron,hell your party would let isis in cuz you all feel sorry for them
What world do you live in. Fantasy or Trump?
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Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 12:36 pm
by Woodruff
karel wrote:hmm i hate,ok bro i believe everyone has a chance to come to here the right way,so that makes me a racist?do you see the kkk out destroying shit,no,but Obama blm is all about hate,so tel me what hate is about moron,hell your party would let isis in cuz you all feel sorry for them
Please tell me that you're really an extreme liberal who just posts to try to make the Republicans look bad.
Because I really would prefer to think that of you.
Re: Democrats now just party of opposition with nothing to s
Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 3:28 pm
by tzor
Woodruff wrote:1. The Freedom Caucus certainly isn't a bunch of RINOs. Where do you get this idea?
McConnell campaigned on repealing Obamacare "root and branch." It's not the Freedom Caucus who is preventing him from making that pledge, it's the RINOS who are insisting that they can't do what they tried to do under Obama knowing that it would be vetoed. It's the RINOS who all thought Clinton would be our president so they didn't need to come up with any plan.
Woodruff wrote:2. These "RINOs" are actually Republicans. Not Democrats. You're blaming the Democrats for what the Republicans are doing.
They have managed to easily stall both the repeal of Obamacare and Tax reform.
I'm not "blaming" anyone (except RINOS). Democrats are using RINOS to promote their agenda. Their victory is not their blame. If you trick a fool into doing something foolish the blame belongs on the fool, but kudos to you for tricking the fool.
Woodruff wrote:Why are you so dishonest?
So "fake news." I complement the Democrats and you want to take umbrage with it.
The only "victory" I want is a convention of states, term limits on congressmen, and either turn limits on senators of the flat out repeal of the 17th amendment. I wouldn't trust a Washington Republican as far as I could throw him (and trust me, I'm not the athletic type; probably get a hernia getting them off the ground).
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Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 3:32 pm
by tzor
Bernie Sanders wrote:......meanwhile the real Republicans that Tzor...admires are helping Trump suck the appendages of Putin.
1) Who are these real Republicans that I admire? 2) What's with these sexual fantisies? 3) How does the people in question #1 aid the fantasies of #2?
Re: Democrats now just party of opposition with nothing to s
Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 3:36 pm
by tzor
Bernie Sanders wrote:I'm a hater? Read your posts....moron.
You are either a hater or a hatter, and I have never seen your hats.
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Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2017 8:00 am
by DirtyDishSoap
Both political parties blow and we need a system overhaul to clean up the fuckin infestation that's been plaguing our political system forever and a day.
Democrats and Republicans are both useless. Neither will carry out any promises made nor do they push anything out that's systematically helpful to the nation at large.
Democrats - Obama regime. I hated Obama, and just about everything did, and I thought for the most part, everyone did as well, and for the same reasons. The problem is, as soon as Obama stopped doing anything, everyone loved the guy and he was suddenly the best president. He was trash. Between the threats of federal shutdown while I was in the service (basically, I wouldn't get paid...Would suck if you were a family man, no way to pay for rent, kids, that sort of deal). That and the sheer arrogance of the prick to say he didn't have any scandals and that he would be voted in a third term if allowed was something that cemented my hatred for the cock. The biggest grievance that I have with his administration though was the underhanded addition of Obama Care. What an awful system, and a great way to ram another financial hardship shaped fist up the asses of people who can't afford the "affordable" health care. A poorly written bill that should have never been implemented, was implemented anyways...And the reasoning? "We don't know how it will work unless we put it in the system". Works fantastic, you shitter. I really love filing out my taxes and paying that infraction of not being able to afford the fucking thing to begin with.
Republicans - Bush/Trump Bush blew and this shouldn't even be an argument. The man fumbled with just about everything did, and it eventually lead to an economic crisis, inflammation and a stock market crash. Amazing work. And then, for whatever reason, we invade Iraq, the infamous "weapons of mass destruction" where there was none. Losing lives over a silly fucking reason. Bush sucks, and everything he did sucked. Not a God damn redeeming quality of the idiot.
Trump is someone that puts the fear of God into me. He's a reality TV host that, in my personal opinion, has incredibly limited knowledge of how to run the political game. I'm holding out hope though that his knowledge in business will somehow, someway, by some miracle, solve a lot of our economy and pricing issues. Might require too much micro-managing but at this point, might what we need. It's really early to say if Trump will suck or not. So far, he's done some really stupid shit, continues to do stupid shit, or makes that one smart decision, but fucks it up anyways. For example: The promise of replacing that stupid healthcare bill that Obama put into effect. No idea how he accomplished this, but he made a WORSE bill than the one previously written. Thankfully, the damn thing didn't get passed, but it was so astronomically bad, the guy who wrote it should have been fired immediately for being that out of touch with reality. However, I will give props to Trump for this. After coming into office for however long, he passed a nice little bill for veterans to seek medical help/attention from private doctors/institutions (dental and all of that), rather than sitting at the VA for months/years for serious issues. Thumbs up, I'm hoping he takes a closer look at the VA and all of it's stupid bullshit practices. But that's a step in the right direction.
Fact is though, both these parties are garbage, and we need an overhaul, instead of relying on these shitbirds and their corrupt "play with tax payers income" to make their dumb campaigns, which range to millions if not more. Get a man with some actual American ideals in, and is actually concerned with the American people and what we have to say, rather than playing world police.
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Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2017 8:34 am
by Bernie Sanders
The VA is a wonderful SOCIALIST program for our veterans.
Let's do the same for all working families. Medicare for all!
Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 12:04 pm
