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Anyone set one up and get enough traffic to monetize?

I was thinking of giving it a try.

I talked to a guy at EB games who had one and he complained about it being way too tough to get enough hits but his content seems a bit lacking to me. https://www.youtube.com/user/scooterjab

I did give him a couple of views but couldn't sit through too many videos.

2dimes wrote:Anyone set one up and get enough traffic to monetize?

I was thinking of giving it a try.

I talked to a guy at EB games who had one and he complained about it being way too tough to get enough hits but his content seems a bit lacking to me. https://www.youtube.com/user/scooterjab

I did give him a couple of views but couldn't sit through too many videos.

What's the weirdest non-pornographic thing that you can think of that people might find erotic? I once spoke to a girl who made money posting videos of herself barefoot stepping slowly on to cakes. Admittedly she said it was a sideline, but she made money out of it.

I think the geek equivalent on youtube is people opening boxes of new tech.

Find your niche.

not me

I'm probably going to do videos of fishing, eating/cooking and general goofing around with the dogs.

We have some pretty nice mountain lakes near here. They would be best filmed with a drone but they are starting to get fussy about people flying them in the National Parks. You can get a fine if you don't have permits.

I might be able to hike up and get some decent downward shots but I am a lot of mass to get up mountains these days and I'm not twenty six anymore.

nietzsche wrote:not me

Do not post videos of stepping on Nietzsche.

The Supreme Court explicitly ruled that crushing kittens isn't free speech (seriously, look it up and be depressed that they even had to rule on it, but you's be wiser not knowing anything), but I think he can always argue that "don't tread on me" applies equally to kittens as it does to snakes.

And anyway, "Find your niche", has been trademarked, Nietzsche's lawyers inform me, as part of an instructional series of self-help videos that he is currently developing in partnership with a plea deal made with Roger Ailes' estate, soon to be available on YouTube.

Oh and some airplane stuff. Maybe I should fly over the mountain lakes. There is no specific restrictions on that other than altitude over known wildlife.

2dimes wrote:I'm probably going to do videos of fishing, eating/cooking and general goofing around with the dogs.

We have some pretty nice mountain lakes near here. They would be best filmed with a drone but they are starting to get fussy about people flying them in the National Parks. You can get a fine if you don't have permits.

I might be able to hike up and get some decent downward shots but I am a lot of mass to get up mountains these days and I'm not twenty six anymore.

The Duck Dynasty guys made a lot of money with a duck whistle. Can you replicate the sound of an out of shape guy breathing heavily alone in the woods in whistle format as a lure for bear hunters?

On a more serious note- if you want to do it, get a good cam and learn how to handle it correctly. I know a few people who do trail riding videos, and they swear by the go-pro tech. How are you with editing software?

2dimes wrote:Anyone set one up and get enough traffic to monetize?

I was thinking of giving it a try.

I talked to a guy at EB games who had one and he complained about it being way too tough to get enough hits but his content seems a bit lacking to me. https://www.youtube.com/user/scooterjab

I did give him a couple of views but couldn't sit through too many videos.

His videos are way too long. The youtube audience is lacking on attention span. If he was doing lets play games that were good, and new, he'd do better. No one is going to spend over an hour watching the dude play "Kill all humans 2". I didn't even have to click on a video to see I didn't wanna watch them.

Not only that, he's only been at it for 10 months. He's gotta do a lets play of new games when they come out. His commentary has to be decent as well. I didn't watch any of his vids because they all are of subjects I personally don't give a shit about, but there are "let's play" channels out there already well established he has to compete with. He would have to bring something those bigger channels don't offer.
He could always go with some FNAF vids and he can rack up some views and subscribers.


To monetize you have to get a certain amount of hours watched within a specific time frame, I can't remember at this moment the exact amount, but it's not toooo hard if you are putting out decent content. Once you've met the criteria to monetize it's smooth sailing from there. I see from his views the video with the most views (his first one) is only 93 views. He'll never get there like that. Not only that but his fist vid has the most views and then they just tank afterward which tells me some people took a look and weren't interested enough to watch any more.

Now here is the important part, dimes, and you wanna pay close attention. Assume you've come up with a decent content to create that will generate interest. Lets assume you achieve the criteria to monetize. Lets assume you link a bank account/paypal to a verified account (which you gotta do to monetize) and everything is good to go. You are now able to make money. Ads will be played at the beginning of your vids, from that advertising you end up getting maybe 20% of the revenue (at most) that it generates for google. I can't remember the exact percentage but know that google gets the lion's share.
Vids under 5 minutes can have only one add. Vids over 10 minutes can have multiple adds within the vid, thus generating more moola. You'll make about $1 for every thousand views. That's about the average. Then to make your vids appear in users "recommended channels" list that appears for everyone when they log into youtube, you gotta hit specific keywords and have significant view average. Things like "clickbait" which are obnoxiously disgusting, actually work well to get views, but people will hate your fucking guts for it. Being a smaller channel you could get striked for it as well, but it would do well to understand the youtube algorithms and use that to your advantage in your vid titles and descriptions. Make sure you put a lot of thought into those titles and descriptions because the algorithm uses that to organize and sort your video to auction off to advertisers.

Another important development that is recent to youtube is family friendly content. If you wanna monetize you have to cater to the advertisers who don't want to advertise on channels that curse excessively, have hate speech or controversial content. Even if said content doesn't violate youtube's TOS, advertisers are able to tell youtube what they don't want to advertise. Youtube recently launched a limited AI that actually "watches" your video the instant you upload it and determines what criteria your video contains in relation to what type of content advertisers don't want to associate with. It goes without saying that this AI isn't too bright and actually demonetizes videos for the dumbest reasons. I would suggest you never saying the word "Nazi" or "Hitler" or a whole host of other words that the AI will instantly flag and thuse negate your content from auction thus you get no advertisers putting their adds on your videos. Your videos can even be demonetized based on this to which you'd have to appeal and youtube would have actual people take the time to watch your video to determine if the AI fucked up.

Gimme a few minutes and I'll post some vids from trusted content creators that can help understand how the youtube system works. I would advise you to watch these videos.
Remember, if you are only doing this as a hobby and don't give a shit too much about how much money you make, then just relax, do your thing. But, if you really want to make some money, and you can make some money, then you'll have to put a lot of thought, time and effort to create good content. This can and will become a real job. The biggest channel on youtube, in terms of subscribers and views, is probably pewdiepie. He has 55+ million subscribers, a typical video gets over a million views. He makes upwards of $10K a video and he makes a video every single fucking day. He's pulling in around $20 million a year. His subscriber base, to put it into context, 55 million, the NYTimes has a readership of shit at the moment, and the NYtimes youtube channel only has 850,000. They have a total readership/digital subscriber base of 1.2 million. They could only dream of having as big of an audience as pewdiepie. That's probably whey they went after him with their hit piece and fake bullshit news a month or so ago.

I think the second biggest youtube channel is a makeup channel, like how to apply makeup to your face. Seriously. It's all about creating content that people want to watch. Make it an enjoyable experience, and if you can do that, in a year or so, assuming you make good quality content, you just might be able to quit what the f*ck ever job you have now and just do youtube full time.

What kind of content were you thinking of doing?

Oh, and you don't need much to get started. You'll need a fairly decent camera, a good microphone that can be incorporated into the camera or just one you talk directly into and editing software which you can actually get for free on the interwebz. Depending on what you are going to be doing as content. It's not that expensive really, and as you make money you can keep upgrading and getting better equipment. I also have a video in my lists that has a decent sized channel layout on a table what they started with and they are big enough where youtube is now their full time job. It was good enough for them, it'll probably be good enough for you. Or you go spend big time, build a studio, buy top of the line equipment and pray your channel takes off. But I'll post some useful stuff for you in a little bit.

We'll be launching our own channel later on this summer. We are setting it up just like a corporation with a CFO, accounting and HR department, albeit modest to start, but it's going to be a company. And we'll see how it goes.

Hmm, I'd be wary of taking advice from Patches, or his Pewdepie idol (to be fair, the guy did make a lot of money before he crashed and burned though).

I don't think he even read your posts given that he's asking you about content.

So anyway, perhaps a good point of advice is beware people who pitch you BS on the internet.

Ok, this guy tells you with zero bullshit exactly how much money he makes on youtube. He's got about half a million subscribers, he only puts out one video a month on average. A college student and youtube pays for his tuition. He gets between a few hundred thousand views to over a million views per video.





If you look at vexxed video list, check out the views he gets, you can see the algorithm manipulation on display and creative titles to generate views for his videos. His video "vexxed goes to seattle" didn't get shit for views, 34,000 or so. But then he has a video "suicide attempt caught live on twitch" gets damn near a million views. His "exposed" videos, using the word "exposed" also generates a lot of views. He also uses the name of other big channels (trap nation, 13 million subscribers) and he cranks out nearly a million views which is usually busting those big channels doing shady stuff.

That video there, the absolute best monetizing video on youtube, has gotten damn near 5 million views. You'll see why when you watch it. A lot of youtubers have done "how much money I make on youtube" videos but in the videos they never actually tell you how much they make. This guy does. He even talks about exactly how that money is calculated. Useful stuff here.

Symmetry wrote:Hmm, I'd be wary of taking advice from Patches, or his Pewdepie idol (to be fair, the guy did make a lot of money before he crashed and burned though).

I don't think he even read your posts given that he's asking you about content.

So anyway, perhaps a good point of advice is beware people who pitch you BS on the internet.

f*ck you sym. I don't watch pewdiepie but he ain't crashed and burned, not by a long shot. He is the biggest youtube channel on youtube. There is no other channel that is bigger than pewdiepie. If anything he's bigger after the bullshit the NYTimes pulled on him. Everyone on youtube knows it was bullshit. Show me a single other channel on youtube that is bigger than pewdiepie's channel you fucking simpleton. I fucking dare you you piece of shit. Post it or shut the f*ck up sympleton.

Now shut the f*ck up about shit you don't understand.

2dimes wrote:I'm probably going to do videos of fishing, eating/cooking and general goofing around with the dogs.

We have some pretty nice mountain lakes near here. They would be best filmed with a drone but they are starting to get fussy about people flying them in the National Parks. You can get a fine if you don't have permits.

I might be able to hike up and get some decent downward shots but I am a lot of mass to get up mountains these days and I'm not twenty six anymore.

I hadn't seen this post, you posted it while I was typing out my first post. 1rod1reelfishing channel, a little over half a million subs. Cooking channels is another story. There are channels on youtube about cooking that have millions of subs. There are a lot of them but they are popular. Fishing is more niche, but people who wanna learn about fishing will certainly look up fishing vids. If you are near some named or famous lakes, well known, try to include the names of those lakes in your videos. People looking to fish those particular lakes will be sure to find your channel about them.
There are some nature channels as well, done by big names, like BBC national geographic and such. You'd be competing with them. You gotta make sure your content is fun, entertaining if you wanna get views. If you don't give a shit about views then just make vids as you enjoy them is fine as well.
The biggest hiking videos are advertising videos. Specifically made by people who are selling hiking trips and such. Just regular people hiking, they aren't as big, quite modest actually.

Contrary to Sym's idiocy, I've been researching this for a while. f*ck it, you can research shit for yourself if your gonna listen to sym's stupid ass.

patches70 wrote:

Symmetry wrote:Hmm, I'd be wary of taking advice from Patches, or his Pewdepie idol (to be fair, the guy did make a lot of money before he crashed and burned though).

I don't think he even read your posts given that he's asking you about content.

So anyway, perhaps a good point of advice is beware people who pitch you BS on the internet.

f*ck you sym. I don't watch pewdiepie but he ain't crashed and burned, not by a long shot. He is the biggest youtube channel on youtube. There is no other channel that is bigger than pewdiepie. If anything he's bigger after the bullshit the NYTimes pulled on him. Everyone on youtube knows it was bullshit. Show me a single other channel on youtube that is bigger than pewdiepie's channel you fucking simpleton. I fucking dare you you piece of shit. Post it or shut the f*ck up sympleton.

Now shut the f*ck up about shit you don't understand.

2D- this is the kind of guy you need to be wary of. He'll have a bit of a manic fit if you point out his problems, or he'll post BS excuses. Watch out for people who have that kind of personality- they're either "I hate you", or "You're my best friend, trust me", with nothing in between.

If that sounds like a healthy relationship to you, then you may as well still be in your twenties.

Sym, you said pewdiepie, in your words, "crashed and burned". That is patently false. That is absolutely untrue. He has more subscribers after the NYTimes hit piece than he did before the piece. He did the exact opposite of "crash and burn". Or you don't know what crash and burn means, which considering your history is certainly a possibility.

I asked you one simple, easy to answer question. What youtube channel is bigger than pewdiepie?

You of course won't answer because the absolute unequivocal answer to that is "no one". There is no bigger channel than pewdiepie.
You don't even have enough understanding to realize that simple, well known fact about youtube.

You, sir, have zero ambition, no passion and are nothing but a dirty troll. What exact problems did you point out of mine? None, nothing. You just said "don't listen to patches" as if dimes needs you to determine the validity of someone's statements. Do you think dimes can't reason for himself? Why do you think so little of dimes? What exactly in my OP do you disagree with? Be specific. Quote the exact line and then state why that line is incorrect in your opinion.

I know you won't. I didn't bother going into the advertising dimes will have to do if he wants a successful youtube channel. If you look at his OP, the link to the channel of his associate or whatever, you can see a lot of problems. I stated a few, but another one you can see right away is the guy has zero advertising of his channel. This scooterjab fellow has no facebook links in the description of his vids. No twitter, no twitch, nothing, zero. How is anyone supposed to find his channel?

The OP says the guy is complaining that it is too tough to grow his channel with the implication that it's the system at fault. The fault I can see is with the creator. He has problems with his content, has has zero advertising of his channel. He hasn't promoted his own channel in multiple venues. The guy hasn't done the work to create a successful channel, and believe me it's work. One can't just post videos on youtube and think they're going to get hits. It takes a hell of a lot of work above and beyond just the content creation.
Every big channel, every successful channel has multiple platforms upon which they advertise their channel. They'll have twitter accounts, facebook, twitch and if they aren't opposed to begging, patreon accounts. The guy dimes refers to in the OP would be well served coming here, to this thread, and get some fucking advice. Or, if he's really serious about growing a successful youtube channel, he'd have already done a hell of a lot of due diligence and research. None of which is present if he did do any of that. Maybe he did and just ignored everything he learned because some dumbass sym stink-a-like shit all over the rose bed and discouraged him from the get go.
Sym, GFY.

I'm baffled as to why you're defending that account as someone you think should be considered a success story. I acknowledged that he made a lot of cash, but you seem unwilling to talk about his big problem. I've held off directly talking about it because it actually helps my point (I think I've been a little unfair on you on that front, to be honest). I'll give you another opportunity to open up about your hero, though, much as your dodging says "Don't trust Patches!" in neon.

So, you're willing to type a lot, alternating between being reasonable and, frankly, nuts. Setting up your own business, and/or working as a sole trader requires a bit of a nose for smelling nonsense. You've rarely passed the smell test even in your regular posts, though I have no doubts as to your confidence in yourself.

How big is your start up, in terms of employees? You mentioned a CFO, an HR department, and a few other roles, I think.

Pewdiepie is not my hero. I don't watch his videos, I'm not his target demographic audience. Now if you are going to imply that pewdiepie is a racist, then you are nuts. You don't have any intimate knowledge of the event except for a single perspective. Disney cut their ties with him but that doesn't harm Pewdiepie at all relatively speaking, he's still a millionaire and still has vast power within youtube itself just because his channel is so big.

For instance, if a small channel got cold cocked by the NYTimes youtube would delete their channel. Youtube can't delete pewdiepie's channel because it's the biggest earner on youtube. He makes google 10's millions of dollars from ad revenue which is the whole goddamn purpose of youtube! A fact you seem ignorant of and that dimes should be aware of if he's going to start a channel. In regards to the incident, the two Indian guys who's channel is that they'll say whatever you tell them to say in a video if you pay them $5 (which was at the center of the controversy), youtube did shut their channel down. Pewdiepie himself intervened and youtube reinstated those guy's channel because pewdiepie went to bat for them. That channel was their only source of income in an otherwise tough place to make money. Selling vids for $5 goes a long way for those guys. So it was good and proper they didn't end up losing the meager livelihood they had over some BS which is what the whole NYTimes piece was. Youtube went ballistic when it went down and slammed the NYTimes. It has since blown over and largely forgotten now as it should be.

As to the details of our own youtube channel we'll be launching. It's a family affair. My brother will be the CFO and will handle every single financial decision. He has business management degrees, so he is the obvious choice to handle the money. The HR department, rather I should say the PR department, will be my niece. She'll be responsible for managing the twitter, facebook and social aspects of the channel. I have no decent background in managing such, she's perfect for the job. We've got one sponsor, yet another thing successful youtube channels need. The details of which are confidential and irrelevant even if I were inclined to inform you of such information. We've already written the show bible. We've written the scripts and we need the summer to begin to launch production. The content is a show, skit type with an overall story arch to be revealed over time with the details and summary revealed at launch.
The modest investment on equipment and software, most of which we already possess, costs under $500. Profits after monetization will be determine by the CFO. I have no idea how that will go, only that there is a list of who is eligible for payouts upon making of a profit. Those people are confidential and frankly none of yours or anyone else's business.

I didn't really feel it proper to go into it since this thread is about dimes channel. I only say so because we too, like dimes, contemplated starting a youtube channel. I think dimes is where we were at a year ago.

I don't know if our channel is going to be a success or not, but we are going to give it a go. If it is successful and makes money we have plans of further development and branching off into more channels. Baby steps first though, sym. Babysteps. We've given a lot of thought about this. We've done a lot of work already preparing for this. If dimes would like to hear about it, then I'd be happy to talk to him about it. You, however, have no interest at all. You just like to piss all over stuff. You have offered zero constructive advice. It seems to me dimes is asking a legitimate question. I've given factual information if he wishes to pursue it. You've given zero factual information at all and have refused to answer any question put to you.

Youtube can be a cesspool. One can make money doing things that are less than ethical, clickbait, bot accounts, the drama scene to name a few. Dimes doesn't seem to be interested in going that route, which I whole heartedly endorse. Clickbaiters are the scum of youtube for instance, but the fuckers make bank with minimal effort. Pewdiepie is where he is because he started at the beginning of youtube. He is by all means a success at youtube. I know nothing about the guy personally, and I don't give a shit. If dimes made of his channel to become the size and scope of pewdiepie's, then dimes and dimes' family would be set for life, along with his grandchildren and their children after that. If that's not success, then you sir, have no idea what success is, sym.

But the main, most important point is, a youtube channel is work. The more work you put into it, the more reward you get back from it. Make good content so advertisers will want to advertise on your channel and rack up that ad revenue. That is the reason for starting a youtube channel as per the OP-

dimes wrote:Anyone set one up and get enough traffic to monetize?

It's all about the ad revenue. Dimes didn't say shit about it just as a hobby. He's specifically talking about making money with youtube and to make money with youtube you gotta sell ads. There are a lot of other techniques, like piggybacking, that can help grow a channel quickly if Dimes wants to hear about it. None of which you've shown that you know a damn thing about sym.
Sym's only advice, "find your niche". Pffrfttt. A cliche, that's all you are, sym, a cliche. You're a bad cliche. Now gfy. There's a lot of constructive stuff that can be talked about regarding this particular subject. Quit derailing like a retard you pedantic POS.

I wasn't derailing, I actually thought that the CFO and HR head would be you, just using different titles. Now that I know that it's your brother as CFO and niece, head of an HR division consisting of no other humans, you sound very legit, and not dodgy at all.

For anybody still reading, Patche's idol got caught for being an extreme anti-semite, he even paid people to post extreme anti-semitic messages on his channels. That's the stuff he's been dodging.

Ah cool, a fight broke out while I was away.

Funny you mention 1rod1reel. That was how this started. I was looking for tips on catching brown trout and stumbled on his videos. That ended up with me watching other videos and learning about their channels.

So 1rod collaborated with 4 other guys and it turned into them planning to move to Texas to rent a house near the guy that runs LunkerTV. 1rod changed his mind partially because it was not going to result in enough extra money and partially because his girl friend had a real good job and did not want to relocate.

So I have a very basic idea of what is good fishing content. I bought a Monster 1080p+ camera. It seems like a slightly lower quality Hero 3 or 4. The Hero 5 kicks ass, it's waterproof, does 4K ultra high definition and is $550 Canadian. My camera was $200 with tax and a extra fancy one year warranty.

I downloaded iMovie and need to see if I can edit to get decent quality or if I am too inept. I will link it here for everyone to jump me from behind the bushes. Might as well get the trollercoaster of hate going right away.

2dimes wrote:Ah cool, a fight broke out while I was away.

Funny you mention 1rod1reel. That was how this started. I was looking for tips on catching brown trout and stumbled on his videos. That ended up with me watching other videos and learning about their channels.

So 1rod collaborated with 4 other guys and it turned into them planning to move to Texas to rent a house near the guy that runs LunkerTV. 1rod changed his mind partially because it was not going to result in enough extra money and partially because his girl friend had a real good job and did not want to relocate.

So I have a very basic idea of what is good fishing content. I bought a Monster 1080p+ camera. It seems like a slightly lower quality Hero 3 or 4. The Hero 5 kicks ass, it's waterproof, does 4K ultra high definition and is $550 Canadian. My camera was $200 with tax and a extra fancy one year warranty.

I downloaded iMovie and need to see if I can edit to get decent quality or if I am too inept. I will link it here for everyone to jump me from behind the bushes. Might as well get the trollercoaster of hate going right away.

It was a fun argument, and to be fair, you seem like a smart guy who can look after yourself. Best of luck, and do put up some vids on here as you're trying things out.

It's basically just going to be a hobby. I hope I can squeak out some money but the guys collaborating as The Googan Squad, are selling a bunch of merchandise like T-shirts and fishing rods made to their specifications for income. Which is a good idea. Also they have some sponsorship. Mystery Tackle Box. A company that sells subscriptions for monthly boxes sent to your house with takle samples.

The guy who runs LunkerTV has specifically mentioned how YouTube, a giant corporation raking in billions of dollars for Google, changed everything to make it suck for people trying to run channels as a job compared to how it used to be.

They don't care people will still make content hoping to be pewdipie, having no idea how much work it is to make decent content every day.

Oh, and thanks Patches. Good posts.

scooterjab mearly told me some dated info related to his attempt to make a channel. I only spoke with him when he was telling me about their Monster cameras.

My son made a channel already and posted some videos he made of our bitch. They're not bad but they are slightly crude, filmed on his phone and no edits. I won't post links because I don't want to have people picking on him for holding the phone the wrong way making a couple of tall skinny videos. I tried to explain that isn't great.

My son has posted two videos about Roblox. I think he got himself about 12 subscribers and he was tickled pink. His second video is a Roblox rick roll. Hahaha.

And yes, it's a good idea to sell something, something you make/own/create. We'll try and sell some product for our own sponsor and make a few extra bucks. I forgot to mention you'll need a few lens as well. Maybe. I dunno how your planning to frame your vids or whatever. You may find that different lens work better for certain situations.

We're just going to run our channel like it's a company. As professional as we can manage. People can run their channels however they want. We just wanna tell a story, have a few laughs and make a few bucks.

Fishing is great. Like the saying goes-
"A bad day on the lake is better than a good day at work".
Heh heh.

there are a few spanish speaking youtubers who essentially steal fringe topics content from english speaking youtubers and get tens of thousands of views, hundreds in some cases.

maybe you can use canadian french to make some money.

nietzsche wrote:there are a few spanish speaking youtubers who essentially steal fringe topics content from english speaking youtubers and get tens of thousands of views, hundreds in some cases.

maybe you can use canadian french to make some money.

SoFloAntonio made an entire YouTube career out of doing nothing but reposting other people's memes on his channel and soaking up all their views.