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Spazz Arcane wrote:If birds could swim and fish could fly I would awaken in the morning to the sturgeons cry. If fish could fly and birds could swim I'd still use worms to fish for them.
saxitoxin wrote:I'm on Team GabonX
betiko wrote:I've got some american cousins (french mum american dad) and they are actively participating in all they can to get rid of uncle Donald.
Pack Rat wrote:if it quacks like a duck and walk like a duck, it's still fascism
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GabonX wrote:No evidence that Trump or anyone in his admin did anything wrong...
Obama's crimes on the other hand are still within the statute of limitations, one relevant highlighted below:
"This is my last election. After my election I will have more flexibility."
Barack Obama to Russian President Dimitri Medvedev.
Spazz Arcane wrote:If birds could swim and fish could fly I would awaken in the morning to the sturgeons cry. If fish could fly and birds could swim I'd still use worms to fish for them.
saxitoxin wrote:I'm on Team GabonX
nietzsche wrote:GabonX wrote:No evidence that Trump or anyone in his admin did anything wrong...
Obama's crimes on the other hand are still within the statute of limitations, one relevant highlighted below:
"This is my last election. After my election I will have more flexibility."
Barack Obama to Russian President Dimitri Medvedev.
So you hate Obama therefore you love Trump? That's some logic.
Or are you really braindead and actually like Trump?
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Spazz Arcane wrote:If birds could swim and fish could fly I would awaken in the morning to the sturgeons cry. If fish could fly and birds could swim I'd still use worms to fish for them.
saxitoxin wrote:I'm on Team GabonX
Phatscotty wrote:I get the feeling a lot of the people actually calling for Trump to be impeached are the same ones who proclaimed Republicans in congress to be obstructionists against the will of the American people when obama was president. Buts yeah I suppose its different now because we are supposed to already know those people are partisan hacks and don't see any reason to be fair or treat people equally. Because they know they are so right about everything, its okay to parade hate, racism, and bigotry. Lefties think its justified.
Symmetry wrote:You can't really be ok with a guy who won't say what kind of hold other countries have over him.
Pack Rat wrote:if it quacks like a duck and walk like a duck, it's still fascism
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saxitoxin wrote:Symmetry wrote:You can't really be ok with a guy who won't say what kind of hold other countries have over him.
Scotty obviously has a cosmopolitan perspective.
You seem to be infected with hysterical 1950s McCarthyist fantasies of a fifth column of "evil foreigners."
Trump and his businesses have a long history with the German bank, which this month posted its latest net loss, of €1.4bn. It has been the only financial institution willing to lend Trump significant sums. In the 1990s other Wall Street banks, which had previously extended him credit, turned off the tap after Trump’s businesses declared bankruptcy four times.
In November 2008 the German bank took the unusual step of suing Trump after he failed to repay $40m of a $640m real estate loan. Trump countersued. The tycoon argued that Deutsche had contributed to the global recession, which had depressed property prices. He demanded $3bn in damages.
Deutsche’s astonished lawyers described Trump’s lawsuit as frivolous and demanded immediate payment. The two parties settled in 2010.
The bank then quietly re-established its relationship with Trump via Deutsche’s private bank. The private wealth division deals with ultra high-net worth individuals, typically with assets in excess of $50m.
A person familiar with the matter said the relationship resumed because Deutsche Bank hired a group of private wealth bankers including Rosemary Vrablic, who had previously worked at Citigroup and Bank of America and was Trump’s personal banker. Vrablic began working for Deutsche in 2006.
When he was questioned about his bona fides on Wall Street by the New York Times, Trump referred to Vrablic as the “boss” of Deutsche Bank, although she is not the group’s chief executive. A glowing profile of the banker appeared in Kushner’s New York Observer.
Sources in the banking world have expressed astonishment that Deutsche would continue lending to Trump in the wake of his $3bn 2008 lawsuit. Asked whether this was normal practice, one former Deutsche Bank employee, who worked for the bank in New York, said: “Are you kidding me?”
Another former CEO of a rival investment bank, speaking on condition of anonymity, said: “The idea that a bank would walk away from an enforcement lawsuit on a defaulted loan with a litigious borrower because they hired a banking team is preposterous.”
In January a US regulator, the New York Department of Financial Services, fined Deutsche Bank $425m for laundering around $10bn of Russian money. The UK’s Financial Conduct Authority imposed a £163m fine, its largest ever.
The US Department of Justice is still investigating the Russian scheme. In December Deutsche agreed to pay the department $7.2bn. The fine related to the mis-selling of residential mortgage-backed securities and other activities during 2005-7. The US originally asked Deutsche to pay $14bn.
Symmetry wrote:saxitoxin wrote:Symmetry wrote:You can't really be ok with a guy who won't say what kind of hold other countries have over him.
Scotty obviously has a cosmopolitan perspective.
You seem to be infected with hysterical 1950s McCarthyist fantasies of a fifth column of "evil foreigners."
I was thinking of the more recent reports about DeutscheBank.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/feb/16/deutsche-bank-examined-trump-account-for-russia-linksTrump and his businesses have a long history with the German bank, which this month posted its latest net loss, of €1.4bn. It has been the only financial institution willing to lend Trump significant sums. In the 1990s other Wall Street banks, which had previously extended him credit, turned off the tap after Trump’s businesses declared bankruptcy four times.
In November 2008 the German bank took the unusual step of suing Trump after he failed to repay $40m of a $640m real estate loan. Trump countersued. The tycoon argued that Deutsche had contributed to the global recession, which had depressed property prices. He demanded $3bn in damages.
Deutsche’s astonished lawyers described Trump’s lawsuit as frivolous and demanded immediate payment. The two parties settled in 2010.
The bank then quietly re-established its relationship with Trump via Deutsche’s private bank. The private wealth division deals with ultra high-net worth individuals, typically with assets in excess of $50m.
A person familiar with the matter said the relationship resumed because Deutsche Bank hired a group of private wealth bankers including Rosemary Vrablic, who had previously worked at Citigroup and Bank of America and was Trump’s personal banker. Vrablic began working for Deutsche in 2006.
When he was questioned about his bona fides on Wall Street by the New York Times, Trump referred to Vrablic as the “boss” of Deutsche Bank, although she is not the group’s chief executive. A glowing profile of the banker appeared in Kushner’s New York Observer.
Sources in the banking world have expressed astonishment that Deutsche would continue lending to Trump in the wake of his $3bn 2008 lawsuit. Asked whether this was normal practice, one former Deutsche Bank employee, who worked for the bank in New York, said: “Are you kidding me?”
Another former CEO of a rival investment bank, speaking on condition of anonymity, said: “The idea that a bank would walk away from an enforcement lawsuit on a defaulted loan with a litigious borrower because they hired a banking team is preposterous.”In January a US regulator, the New York Department of Financial Services, fined Deutsche Bank $425m for laundering around $10bn of Russian money. The UK’s Financial Conduct Authority imposed a £163m fine, its largest ever.
The US Department of Justice is still investigating the Russian scheme. In December Deutsche agreed to pay the department $7.2bn. The fine related to the mis-selling of residential mortgage-backed securities and other activities during 2005-7. The US originally asked Deutsche to pay $14bn.
Fascinating stuff
Pack Rat wrote:if it quacks like a duck and walk like a duck, it's still fascism
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saxitoxin wrote:Symmetry wrote:saxitoxin wrote:Symmetry wrote:You can't really be ok with a guy who won't say what kind of hold other countries have over him.
Scotty obviously has a cosmopolitan perspective.
You seem to be infected with hysterical 1950s McCarthyist fantasies of a fifth column of "evil foreigners."
I was thinking of the more recent reports about DeutscheBank.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/feb/16/deutsche-bank-examined-trump-account-for-russia-linksTrump and his businesses have a long history with the German bank, which this month posted its latest net loss, of €1.4bn. It has been the only financial institution willing to lend Trump significant sums. In the 1990s other Wall Street banks, which had previously extended him credit, turned off the tap after Trump’s businesses declared bankruptcy four times.
In November 2008 the German bank took the unusual step of suing Trump after he failed to repay $40m of a $640m real estate loan. Trump countersued. The tycoon argued that Deutsche had contributed to the global recession, which had depressed property prices. He demanded $3bn in damages.
Deutsche’s astonished lawyers described Trump’s lawsuit as frivolous and demanded immediate payment. The two parties settled in 2010.
The bank then quietly re-established its relationship with Trump via Deutsche’s private bank. The private wealth division deals with ultra high-net worth individuals, typically with assets in excess of $50m.
A person familiar with the matter said the relationship resumed because Deutsche Bank hired a group of private wealth bankers including Rosemary Vrablic, who had previously worked at Citigroup and Bank of America and was Trump’s personal banker. Vrablic began working for Deutsche in 2006.
When he was questioned about his bona fides on Wall Street by the New York Times, Trump referred to Vrablic as the “boss” of Deutsche Bank, although she is not the group’s chief executive. A glowing profile of the banker appeared in Kushner’s New York Observer.
Sources in the banking world have expressed astonishment that Deutsche would continue lending to Trump in the wake of his $3bn 2008 lawsuit. Asked whether this was normal practice, one former Deutsche Bank employee, who worked for the bank in New York, said: “Are you kidding me?”
Another former CEO of a rival investment bank, speaking on condition of anonymity, said: “The idea that a bank would walk away from an enforcement lawsuit on a defaulted loan with a litigious borrower because they hired a banking team is preposterous.”In January a US regulator, the New York Department of Financial Services, fined Deutsche Bank $425m for laundering around $10bn of Russian money. The UK’s Financial Conduct Authority imposed a £163m fine, its largest ever.
The US Department of Justice is still investigating the Russian scheme. In December Deutsche agreed to pay the department $7.2bn. The fine related to the mis-selling of residential mortgage-backed securities and other activities during 2005-7. The US originally asked Deutsche to pay $14bn.
Fascinating stuff
AFAIK Barack Obama was president in December.
Pack Rat wrote:if it quacks like a duck and walk like a duck, it's still fascism
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=241668&start=200#p5349880
Pack Rat wrote:if it quacks like a duck and walk like a duck, it's still fascism
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=241668&start=200#p5349880
saxitoxin wrote:Ultimately you seem to be under the mistaken impression that I care, that the more saucy tales and whisper campaigns you can conjure up will eventually convince me. I don't care, though.
There could be undeniable proof Donald Trump was sending messenger pigeons from the Truman Balcony to the Russian embassy with the nuclear codes duct-taped to their little pigeon feet in exchange for $25 in McDonald's gift cards and I'd be fine with it.
I want to see the world torn down to its foundations and then rebuilt in a certain way and Russia figures prominently in this reorganization program. None of these stories matter to me.
Symmetry wrote:saxitoxin wrote:Ultimately you seem to be under the mistaken impression that I care, that the more saucy tales and whisper campaigns you can conjure up will eventually convince me. I don't care, though.
There could be undeniable proof Donald Trump was sending messenger pigeons from the Truman Balcony to the Russian embassy with the nuclear codes duct-taped to their little pigeon feet in exchange for $25 in McDonald's gift cards and I'd be fine with it.
I want to see the world torn down to its foundations and then rebuilt in a certain way and Russia figures prominently in this reorganization program. None of these stories matter to me.
And yet, you reply. I think you do care.
Pack Rat wrote:if it quacks like a duck and walk like a duck, it's still fascism
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