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If you believe the shootings are real (and I dont) then....

PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 11:40 am
by xtratabasco
If you believe these shootings are real (and I dont) then....

you gotta blame the real problem, not guns.


I was prescribed a drug for pain and 2 of the possible side effects could be suicide and/or mass killing with suicide, I declined the meds.



SSRI Antidepressants Biggest threat to National Security, Bigger than Obama, Fed Reserve, Food Stamps Ending, Power Grid down
DR. Katherine Albrecht

[link to archives2014.gcnlive.com]


As bad as Crashing off of World of Warcraft, and if the EBT Food Stamps are shut off, Obama Starting WW3, or the Power Grid being knocked off, those believe it or not are not the biggest problem or threat, It is people Crashing off SSRI, Antidepressants. (This single reason alone explains why US Military are NOT allowed to carry Loaded weapons on Military Bases.70-80%+ of Active Duty Veterans are now on Antidepressants and Mind Altering Drugs.

Under Stress or sudden withdrawal from the SSRI Drugs and people Snap and Start Killing Others, their families, themselves, strangers.

[link to http://www.ssristories.org]

What Drug Date Where Additional

School Shooting Prozac WITHDRAWAL 2008-02-15 Illinois ** 6 Dead: 15 Wounded: Perpetrator Was in Withdrawal from Med & Acting Erratically
School Shooting Prozac Antidepressant 2005-03-24 Minnesota **10 Dead: 7 Wounded: Dosage Increased One Week before Rampage
School Shooting Paxil [Seroxat] Antidepressant 2001-03-10 Pennsylvania **14 Year Old GIRL Shoots & Wounds Classmate at Catholic School
School Shooting Med For Depression 2010-02-10 Alabama **14 Year Old Shoots & Kills Another Boy at School During Change of Classes
School Shooting Zoloft Antidepressant 1995-10-12 South Carolina **15 Year Old Shoots Two Teachers, Killing One: Then Kills Himself
School Shooting Med For Depression 2009-03-13 Germany **16 Dead Including Shooter: Antidepressant Use: Shooter in Treatment For Depression
School Shooting Plot Med For Depression WITHDRAWAL 2008-08-28 Texas **18 Year Old Plots a Columbine School Attack
School Shooting Anafranil Antidepressant 1988-05-20 Illinois **29 Year Old WOMAN Kills One Child: Wounds Five: Kills Self
School Shooting Luvox/Zoloft Antidepressants 1999-04-20 Colorado **COLUMBINE: 15 Dead: 24 Wounded
School Shooting Prozac Antidepressant WITHDRAWAL 1998-05-21 Oregon **Four Dead: Twenty Injured
School Shooting Antidepressant 2006-09-30 Colorado **Man Assaults Girls: Kills One & Self
School Machete Attack Med for Depression 2001-09-26 Pennsylvania **Man Attacks 11 Children & 3 Teachers at Elementary School
School Shooting Related Luvox 1993-07-23 Florida **Man Commits Murder During Clinical Trial for Luvox: Same Drug as in COLUMBINE: Never Reported
School Hostage Situation Cymbalta Antidepressant WITHDRAWAL 2009-11-09 New York **Man With Gun Inside School Holds Principal Hostage

5000+ of stories, the Drug company controlled media won't tell you about.

Re: If you believe the shootings are real (and I dont) then.

PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 11:50 am
by mrswdk
So the stories aren't true, but you want the media to tell you them anyway?

Re: If you believe the shootings are real (and I dont) then.

PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 4:01 pm
by Symmetry
xtratabasco wrote:If you believe these shootings are real (and I dont) then....

you gotta blame the real problem, not guns.

I was prescribed a drug for pain and 2 of the possible side effects could be suicide and/or mass killing with suicide, I declined the meds.


:shock:

You need to find a doctor that doesn't prescribe drugs that list "mass killing" as a side effect.

Or maybe you should take the drugs that clearly would have helped you with your delusions.

I am undecided.

Re: If you believe the shootings are real (and I dont) then.

PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 9:52 pm
by thegreekdog
I read today that President Trump is looking to allow mentally disabled people to purchase guns. Perhaps that's not the best idea.

Re: If you believe the shootings are real (and I dont) then.

PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 12:42 am
by Dukasaur
thegreekdog wrote:I read today that President Trump is looking to allow mentally disabled people to purchase guns. Perhaps that's not the best idea.


You don't think members of Congress have a right to defend themselves?

Re: If you believe the shootings are real (and I dont) then.

PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 1:48 am
by patches70
thegreekdog wrote:I read today that President Trump is looking to allow mentally disabled people to purchase guns. Perhaps that's not the best idea.


That's weird, I read it was the House of Representatives who voted to roll back the regulations to allow the mentally ill to buy guns. I agree, BTW, probably not the best idea.

But, I have to note, and perhaps ask your opinion, TGD-

Is the United State government allowed to discriminate against people with disabilities?
Seems an argument can be made that by denying someone their 2nd amendment rights based on their mental disability just might violate the American's with disabilities Act. Even the ACLU is opposed to the regulation. The NRA I can understand, but the ACLU and the NRA agreeing? We just might be living in an upside down world.

Re: If you believe the shootings are real (and I dont) then.

PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 1:49 am
by patches70
Dukasaur wrote:
thegreekdog wrote:I read today that President Trump is looking to allow mentally disabled people to purchase guns. Perhaps that's not the best idea.


You don't think members of Congress have a right to defend themselves?


Har! That made me chuckle.

Re: If you believe the shootings are real (and I dont) then.

PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 10:53 am
by warmonger1981






Katherine Albrecht is pretty good. I have one of her books called Spy Chips. It talks about the surveillance systems. Pretty interesting stuff.

Re: If you believe the shootings are real (and I dont) then.

PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 12:27 pm
by betiko
thegreekdog wrote:I read today that President Trump is looking to allow mentally disabled people to purchase guns. Perhaps that's not the best idea.


Would that include people as mentally disabled as xtratabasco? Even trump wouldn t go that far.

Re: If you believe the shootings are real (and I dont) then.

PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 6:00 pm
by jonesthecurl
But surely the Bowling Green massacre was real, at least?

Re: If you believe the shootings are real (and I dont) then.

PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 9:52 pm
by Symmetry
thegreekdog wrote:I read today that President Trump is looking to allow mentally disabled people to purchase guns. Perhaps that's not the best idea.


Technically its mentally ill, not mentally disabled people. I'm not a fan of either owning guns, but people with mental illness owning guns seems like a more terrible idea. The obvious reason is the threat to others, but the less obvious reason is the threat they pose to themselves.

I've argued this a few times here, but gun owners pose a massive suicide risk. Common sense would argue that suicidal people will just pick an alternative method, but that's just not the case.

Re: If you believe the shootings are real (and I dont) then.

PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2017 12:19 pm
by thegreekdog
patches70 wrote:
thegreekdog wrote:I read today that President Trump is looking to allow mentally disabled people to purchase guns. Perhaps that's not the best idea.


That's weird, I read it was the House of Representatives who voted to roll back the regulations to allow the mentally ill to buy guns. I agree, BTW, probably not the best idea.

But, I have to note, and perhaps ask your opinion, TGD-

Is the United State government allowed to discriminate against people with disabilities?
Seems an argument can be made that by denying someone their 2nd amendment rights based on their mental disability just might violate the American's with disabilities Act. Even the ACLU is opposed to the regulation. The NRA I can understand, but the ACLU and the NRA agreeing? We just might be living in an upside down world.


I didn't bother to check if the president could actually unilaterally change that particular measure or if that measure was a law (i.e. Congress needs to change it) or a regulation (i.e. the president can change it without Congress).

Symmetry wrote:
thegreekdog wrote:I read today that President Trump is looking to allow mentally disabled people to purchase guns. Perhaps that's not the best idea.


Technically its mentally ill, not mentally disabled people. I'm not a fan of either owning guns, but people with mental illness owning guns seems like a more terrible idea. The obvious reason is the threat to others, but the less obvious reason is the threat they pose to themselves.

I've argued this a few times here, but gun owners pose a massive suicide risk. Common sense would argue that suicidal people will just pick an alternative method, but that's just not the case.


I'm more concerned with mentally ill people trying to kill me than mentally ill people trying to kill themselves.

Re: If you believe the shootings are real (and I dont) then.

PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2017 12:51 pm
by mrswdk
Are there any health conditions where an individual's suicide would result in a net profit for society?

inb4 'yours'

Re: If you believe the shootings are real (and I dont) then.

PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2017 2:46 pm
by Dukasaur
mrswdk wrote:Are there any health conditions where an individual's suicide would result in a net profit for society?

inb4 'yours'


Almost all of them, really. People are just so plentiful, and the costs of treatment are so high, that from a purely dollars-and-cents point of view it would be a big benefit if people were to off themselves at the onset of their first major illness.

Luckily for me and quite a few others, society doesn't look at it from a purely dollars-and-cents point of view....:)

Re: If you believe the shootings are real (and I dont) then.

PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2017 6:49 pm
by mrswdk
Well, not really. I saw some headline a while back about how the average person in the UK pays £750k ($900k-ish) tax in their lifetime. If the average Brit gets seriously ill in middle age, then even if treatment costs £100-200k (maybe something like a major organ transplant), all funded using public money, that's still less than that individual will go on to pay to the government in tax in the rest of their life after recovering, never mind the benefits of their continued labour, consumer spending, potential in-kind labour (such as childcare to younger relatives) etc. Someone who gets seriously ill in middle age probably also has a lower life expectancy as a result, so will be less of a pension cost in retirement. There are also probably costs incurred as the result of operating a society that so explicitly discards anyone who gets ill, unless they can fund treatment entirely out of their own pocket. The need to save for a rainy day means people would probably spend less in favour of saving, there might be a labor drain if mobile people choose to move elsewhere. And yadda yadda. I just wondered if, despite all that, there's a point below which you can pick some people and go 'whatever', and there isn't an overall negative impact on the economy.

Now you made me over think it. Jerk.

Re: If you believe the shootings are real (and I dont) then.

PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2017 7:27 pm
by Dukasaur
Vere est finis vitae meae.

Re: If you believe the shootings are real (and I dont) then.

PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2017 9:10 pm
by thegreekdog
mrswdk wrote:Are there any health conditions where an individual's suicide would result in a net profit for society?

inb4 'yours'


Metsfanmax should be able to answer this question. Where the f*ck is he?

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2017 9:47 pm
by nietzsche
why Mets?

i would love an overelaborated response by BBS where market forces are again revealed as the second coming.

Re: If you believe the shootings are real (and I dont) then.

PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 7:22 pm
by thegreekdog
nietzsche wrote:why Mets?

i would love an overelaborated response by BBS where market forces are again revealed as the second coming.


Mets is a big fan of euthenasia I think.

Re: If you believe the shootings are real (and I dont) then.

PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 8:21 pm
by nietzsche
why isn't his name Euthanasiafanmax then?

Re: If you believe the shootings are real (and I dont) then.

PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 8:36 pm
by notyou2
xtratabasco wrote:If you believe these shootings are real (and I dont) then....

you gotta blame the real problem, not guns.


I was prescribed a drug for pain and 2 of the possible side effects could be suicide and/or mass killing with suicide, I declined the meds.



SSRI Antidepressants Biggest threat to National Security, Bigger than Obama, Fed Reserve, Food Stamps Ending, Power Grid down
DR. Katherine Albrecht

[link to archives2014.gcnlive.com]


As bad as Crashing off of World of Warcraft, and if the EBT Food Stamps are shut off, Obama Starting WW3, or the Power Grid being knocked off, those believe it or not are not the biggest problem or threat, It is people Crashing off SSRI, Antidepressants. (This single reason alone explains why US Military are NOT allowed to carry Loaded weapons on Military Bases.70-80%+ of Active Duty Veterans are now on Antidepressants and Mind Altering Drugs.

Under Stress or sudden withdrawal from the SSRI Drugs and people Snap and Start Killing Others, their families, themselves, strangers.

[link to http://www.ssristories.org]

What Drug Date Where Additional

School Shooting Prozac WITHDRAWAL 2008-02-15 Illinois ** 6 Dead: 15 Wounded: Perpetrator Was in Withdrawal from Med & Acting Erratically
School Shooting Prozac Antidepressant 2005-03-24 Minnesota **10 Dead: 7 Wounded: Dosage Increased One Week before Rampage
School Shooting Paxil [Seroxat] Antidepressant 2001-03-10 Pennsylvania **14 Year Old GIRL Shoots & Wounds Classmate at Catholic School
School Shooting Med For Depression 2010-02-10 Alabama **14 Year Old Shoots & Kills Another Boy at School During Change of Classes
School Shooting Zoloft Antidepressant 1995-10-12 South Carolina **15 Year Old Shoots Two Teachers, Killing One: Then Kills Himself
School Shooting Med For Depression 2009-03-13 Germany **16 Dead Including Shooter: Antidepressant Use: Shooter in Treatment For Depression
School Shooting Plot Med For Depression WITHDRAWAL 2008-08-28 Texas **18 Year Old Plots a Columbine School Attack
School Shooting Anafranil Antidepressant 1988-05-20 Illinois **29 Year Old WOMAN Kills One Child: Wounds Five: Kills Self
School Shooting Luvox/Zoloft Antidepressants 1999-04-20 Colorado **COLUMBINE: 15 Dead: 24 Wounded
School Shooting Prozac Antidepressant WITHDRAWAL 1998-05-21 Oregon **Four Dead: Twenty Injured
School Shooting Antidepressant 2006-09-30 Colorado **Man Assaults Girls: Kills One & Self
School Machete Attack Med for Depression 2001-09-26 Pennsylvania **Man Attacks 11 Children & 3 Teachers at Elementary School
School Shooting Related Luvox 1993-07-23 Florida **Man Commits Murder During Clinical Trial for Luvox: Same Drug as in COLUMBINE: Never Reported
School Hostage Situation Cymbalta Antidepressant WITHDRAWAL 2009-11-09 New York **Man With Gun Inside School Holds Principal Hostage

5000+ of stories, the Drug company controlled media won't tell you about.

WOW, who would have thunk that these simple medications could be a bigger threat than Obama?

Anyone?


No one thought that?









Really?

Re: If you believe the shootings are real (and I dont) then.

PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 10:31 pm
by BoganGod
Osama is out of office now, he used the Demonic Conclave Party to help hide false flag events using drugged teens who were also victims of psycho sexual ritual satanic abuse.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 3:42 am
by DirtyDishSoap
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Re: If you believe the shootings are real (and I dont) then.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 8:38 am
by BoganGod
thegreekdog wrote:
nietzsche wrote:why Mets?

i would love an overelaborated response by BBS where market forces are again revealed as the second coming.


Mets is a big fan of euthenasia I think.


TGD, come on young man. Think. Pay attention to the language you are using, words are important. Mets is a big fan of selective assisted euthanasia. He like I, and many others see value in assisting some regressive into echo chambers that will eventually become their very own suicide pods.

Re: If you believe the shootings are real (and I dont) then.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 10:32 am
by thegreekdog
nietzsche wrote:why isn't his name Euthanasiafanmax then?


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