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When would Europeans deal with the extreme Muslims in Europe? How many should die before that happen? Berlin's attack left 12 dead and 48 injured.

Berlin suspect: Police offer €100k reward

The UK tried to deal with extreme Catholics in Europe for a long time. Turns out demonising them and calling in the troops isn't always the best solution for terrorist campaigns.

Saxi used to really troll me about this because I have relatives who were killed by the IRA, but much as I dislike Sinn Fein, they at least participated in a way out of a cycle of violence.

There are two paralell sayings-

We don't negotiate with terrorists.

You don't make peace with your friends.

If all your enemies are terrorists, who do you negotiate peace with?

Personally I'm more afraid of the out of control political parties than of the muslim extremists. Just look at what those imbecils are doing to Poland.
On another note, muslim secularism seems to threaten secularism in Indonesia now.

Symmetry wrote:The UK tried to deal with extreme Catholics in Europe for a long time. Turns out demonising them and calling in the troops isn't always the best solution for terrorist campaigns.

If you are referring to Northern Ireland, there the situation is drastically different then with extreme Muslims. Irish people consider whole island of Ireland as their ancestral homeland, and no one objects on that.
On what grounds extreme Muslims attack in Europe? How is current Europe responsible for all those failed Muslim states? I'll give you a tip, Islam as a religion is responsible for all those failed Muslim states, not Christianity, Europe or native Europeans.

Symmetry wrote:There are two paralell sayings-

We don't negotiate with terrorists.

You don't make peace with your friends.

If all your enemies are terrorists, who do you negotiate peace with?

I already posted one thing that worked in another thread. Do as Soviets did, find male relative of one of the leaders of the terrorist organization, cut his genitals and send them by mail together with the list of other relatives. Thats how you negotiate with extreme Muslims, you use the language they understand. Effectiveness 100%.

In general organizational structure of extreme Muslims is very poor, its based on religious grounds so its easy to be determined. If you just chose to ignore the lack of evidence(its hard to get the evidence) whole problem in Europe can be solved in less then 24 hours. A lot of Muslim religious leaders will disappear from the face of the earth but the problem will be solved.

waauw wrote:Personally I'm more afraid of the out of control political parties than of the muslim extremists. Just look at what those imbecils are doing to Poland.

This is not limited only to Poland, but as I said previously, democracy has a flaw. If all votes a re accounted for, no extremist party in Europe can get more then 50% of those that didn't voted.
That is democracy, give an option for no one. If 40% dont vote, extremest get over 1/3 of the counted votes, otherwise they take peanuts.

lol @ Symmetry calling the IRA 'extreme Catholics'. Next up he'll be referring to the Nazis as 'extreme Germans'.

mrswdk wrote:lol @ Symmetry calling the IRA 'extreme Catholics'. Next up he'll be referring to the Nazis as 'extreme Germans'.

I pity the fool, the mental gymnastics he needs to go through. Germany is a majority catholic nation. A lot of "extreme catholics" were nazis.......... Congitive dissonance might yet do what wishful thinking on how part has never done to DSOIV.

mrswdk wrote:lol @ Symmetry calling the IRA 'extreme Catholics'. Next up he'll be referring to the Nazis as 'extreme Germans'.

He wanted to say something smart, but ended with saying something dumb
Typical for extreme Muslims like him

Not really peeps, the time and place I grew up in, that was how it was viewed. The way that I phrased it is way out of date now, and deserves a fair bit of scorn. It was Catholics vs Protestants, and had been for hundreds of years. Still is for some in Northern Ireland.

I don't particularly mind the attacks on me, but don't be under the impression that there wasn't a foundation of deep religious hatred that had to be overcome to make the peace process happen.

And it is a process.

Sym's read at least three Wiki articles about the Falls Road, don't question his insight.

mrswdk wrote:Sym's read at least three Wiki articles about the Falls Road, don't question his insight.

Question all you want mate, It's perspective I'm offering. If you can't take other people's perspectives into account, all you can end up with a narrow jaundiced view.

I'll happily look stuff up if you want me to treat this academically, but that's not the hat that I'm wearing in this thread.

Are you done?

GoranZ wrote:

mrswdk wrote:lol @ Symmetry calling the IRA 'extreme Catholics'. Next up he'll be referring to the Nazis as 'extreme Germans'.

He wanted to say something smart, but ended with saying something dumb
Typical for extreme Muslims like him

Don't call DSOIV an extremist muslim. That kind of statement could blow up in your face. Fear not noble GoranZ, DSOIV says but never does. He is a man of words, the same words again, and again, and again, and again.

RGJ

just check out the CC newsletter thread for more evidence of his pissing/refusal to get off the pot, if you require it.

riskllama wrote:just check out the CC newsletter thread for more evidence of his pissing/refusal to get off the pot, if you require it.

Yup. Ignorant echo chamber for one.

Ah, the irony...