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China: Joining the First World

PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 3:51 am
by DoomYoshi
So the KHL dropped the first puck yesterday... This season China has a team in the second-best league. Inaugural seasons are usually pretty rough, but it will be a blessing to the sport if the Chinese become interested in the fastest game on ice (I ain't talkin bout bandy).

I like the scheduling they do since the first game is a rematch of the last year's game 7 final except one team lost its best players (Radulov to Montreal and Zaitsev to Toronto) and the winner continued to dominate. It's weird that the World Cup is going to decimate most of the good KHL teams; it should make for an interesting dynamic and give some dark horse teams some real steam. I wish the NHL would do this with the Olympics - let the best players go and play at the Olympics but let the season continue. Of course, the greedy guts managers would weasel it so they kept their best players, because management ruins everything.

This is literally the only thing that could ever convince me to go to China (other than a winter Olympics). Incidentally, the Beijing team has 4 Canadians but only 1 Chinese player. There used t be a KHL rule that all non-Russian teams had at least 5 players from their home country, but I guess they dropped the rule.

Re: China: Joining the First World

PostPosted: Sat Aug 27, 2016 12:04 pm
by DoomYoshi
Here's an unrelated video:

Re: China: Joining the First World

PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2016 3:48 pm
by Symmetry
You know, you can just PM Mrswdk if you want a response.

Re: China: Joining the First World

PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2016 3:58 pm
by Serbia
Getting China interested in hockey will only grow the sport. I support this.

Re: China: Joining the First World

PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2016 6:54 pm
by muy_thaiguy
Serbia wrote:Getting China interested in hockey will only grow the sport. I support this.

How many are Chinese and how many are Russians that couldn't quite cut it in their own league though?

Re: China: Joining the First World

PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2016 7:02 pm
by Symmetry
muy_thaiguy wrote:
Serbia wrote:Getting China interested in hockey will only grow the sport. I support this.

How many are Chinese and how many are Russians that couldn't quite cut it in their own league though?


Aren't they all players who couldn't cut it playing real hockey, and went for the Winter Olympic version instead?

Re: China: Joining the First World

PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2016 7:03 pm
by muy_thaiguy
Symmetry wrote:
muy_thaiguy wrote:
Serbia wrote:Getting China interested in hockey will only grow the sport. I support this.

How many are Chinese and how many are Russians that couldn't quite cut it in their own league though?


Aren't they all players who couldn't cut it playing real hockey, and went for the Winter Olympic version instead?

Actually, the US and Canadian teams are made up of a lot of NHL and NCAA players. Why do you think those two teams are such heavyweights in the sport?

Re: China: Joining the First World

PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2016 7:11 pm
by Symmetry
muy_thaiguy wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
muy_thaiguy wrote:
Serbia wrote:Getting China interested in hockey will only grow the sport. I support this.

How many are Chinese and how many are Russians that couldn't quite cut it in their own league though?


Aren't they all players who couldn't cut it playing real hockey, and went for the Winter Olympic version instead?

Actually, the US and Canadian teams are made up of a lot of NHL and NCAA players. Why do you think those two teams are such heavyweights in the sport?


Sorry, should have put in a smiley- was just trying to make a joke about field vs ice hockey.

In the UK, hockey means field hockey, ice hockey means ice hockey, if that makes sense.

Not a great joke.

:oops:

Re: China: Joining the First World

PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 1:17 am
by muy_thaiguy
Yeah, field hockey just isn't that big in North America. So, hockey is generally in reference to the ice version.

Though street hockey is sort of a thing. Mainly used in off-season by kids/fans of the NHL. Rollerblades and parking lots rather than ice rinks and ice skates.

Serbia may or may not hate me for this, but Mighty Ducks 2 more or less shows this. And, yeah, typical 90s American sports film.

Re: China: Joining the First World

PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 1:38 am
by Symmetry
muy_thaiguy wrote:Yeah, field hockey just isn't that big in North America. So, hockey is generally in reference to the ice version.

Though street hockey is sort of a thing. Mainly used in off-season by kids/fans of the NHL. Rollerblades and parking lots rather than ice rinks and ice skates.

Serbia may or may not hate me for this, but Mighty Ducks 2 more or less shows this. And, yeah, typical 90s American sports film.


It's one of those sports that is big everywhere other than North America. Football, Rugby, Cricket, F1...

It's kind of a shame as most of them have great stories and legacies.

You don't really need darts though, or badminton.

Re: China: Joining the First World

PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 7:02 am
by Serbia
muy_thaiguy wrote:Yeah, field hockey just isn't that big in North America. So, hockey is generally in reference to the ice version.

Though street hockey is sort of a thing. Mainly used in off-season by kids/fans of the NHL. Rollerblades and parking lots rather than ice rinks and ice skates.

Serbia may or may not hate me for this, but Mighty Ducks 2 more or less shows this. And, yeah, typical 90s American sports film.


Never watched either of the Mighty Ducks movies. I'm not really big into sports movies in general, and I don't like movies featuring kids. At least, most American movies featuring kids. The kids all tend to be obnoxious. British depictions of kids tend to be better. British TV tends to be better in general as well.

I'm not expecting the Chinese team to be full of Chinese players today. I'm hopeful that in 20 years, you start seeing good Chinese players. This won't happen overnight, obviously.

Re: China: Joining the First World

PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 9:34 am
by riskllama
chinamen are too small to become NHL-calibre players.

Re: China: Joining the First World

PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 11:27 am
by muy_thaiguy
Serbia wrote:
muy_thaiguy wrote:Yeah, field hockey just isn't that big in North America. So, hockey is generally in reference to the ice version.

Though street hockey is sort of a thing. Mainly used in off-season by kids/fans of the NHL. Rollerblades and parking lots rather than ice rinks and ice skates.

Serbia may or may not hate me for this, but Mighty Ducks 2 more or less shows this. And, yeah, typical 90s American sports film.


Never watched either of the Mighty Ducks movies. I'm not really big into sports movies in general, and I don't like movies featuring kids. At least, most American movies featuring kids. The kids all tend to be obnoxious. British depictions of kids tend to be better. British TV tends to be better in general as well.

I'm not expecting the Chinese team to be full of Chinese players today. I'm hopeful that in 20 years, you start seeing good Chinese players. This won't happen overnight, obviously.

There's actually 3 Mighty Ducks films...
But what about The Sandlot? Or Little Giants? Or *insert 90s TV film here*?

Re: China: Joining the First World

PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2016 5:46 am
by mrswdk
Afraid you're probably going to be waiting a long time for ice hockey to take off in China. Most of the country isn't cold enough for the sport to be viable without use of ice rinks, and all the domestic money is being poured into soccer*. Maybe if you could persuade the government that getting good enough at ice hockey to beat Canada was a worthwhile vanity project...

*producing results such as Guangzhou Evergrande shitting all over the best Mexico had to offer last year, because Chinese soccer is better than Mexican soccer, which sucks, because Mexico sucks

Re: China: Joining the First World

PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2016 6:37 am
by Serbia
muy_thaiguy wrote:There's actually 3 Mighty Ducks films...
But what about The Sandlot? Or Little Giants? Or *insert 90s TV film here*?


Nope. Haven't seen Field of Dreams or League of Their Own either.

Re: China: Joining the First World

PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2016 5:28 pm
by muy_thaiguy
Serbia wrote:
muy_thaiguy wrote:There's actually 3 Mighty Ducks films...
But what about The Sandlot? Or Little Giants? Or *insert 90s TV film here*?


Nope. Haven't seen Field of Dreams or League of Their Own either.

Major League?

Re: China: Joining the First World

PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2016 6:10 pm
by Serbia
muy_thaiguy wrote:
Serbia wrote:
muy_thaiguy wrote:There's actually 3 Mighty Ducks films...
But what about The Sandlot? Or Little Giants? Or *insert 90s TV film here*?


Nope. Haven't seen Field of Dreams or League of Their Own either.

Major League?


Is that a movie?

Re: China: Joining the First World

PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2016 8:54 pm
by muy_thaiguy
Serbia wrote:
muy_thaiguy wrote:
Serbia wrote:
muy_thaiguy wrote:There's actually 3 Mighty Ducks films...
But what about The Sandlot? Or Little Giants? Or *insert 90s TV film here*?


Nope. Haven't seen Field of Dreams or League of Their Own either.

Major League?


Is that a movie?

:(

Re: China: Joining the First World

PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 3:29 am
by Dukasaur
Serbia wrote:
muy_thaiguy wrote:
Serbia wrote:
muy_thaiguy wrote:There's actually 3 Mighty Ducks films...
But what about The Sandlot? Or Little Giants? Or *insert 90s TV film here*?


Nope. Haven't seen Field of Dreams or League of Their Own either.

Major League?


Is that a movie?


Major League was pretty funny. One of the few baseball movies that I have watched multiple times.

Re: China: Joining the First World

PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 4:42 am
by nietzsche
was that the one with charlie sheen? that movie was pretty funny, or maybe i had a different idea of funny when i was a teen.


about guanzu vs america, or however it's spelled, stop trolling mrs wok. they were naive with a few good players, club america gave away the match by being overconfident and then fighting among themselves. 2 mistakes, the last when there was no time left and that happened. if they played 100 times, club america would win 99.

Re: China: Joining the First World

PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 4:52 am
by mrswdk
nietzsche wrote:about guanzu vs america, or however it's spelled, stop trolling mrs wok. they were naive with a few good players, club america gave away the match by being overconfident and then fighting among themselves. 2 mistakes, the last when there was no time left and that happened. if they played 100 times, club america would win 99.


In others words, Club America played worse than Guangzhou Evergrande and as a result lost the match. No shit.

Stop talking like a loser.

Re: China: Joining the First World

PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 4:54 am
by mrswdk
Hopefully Evergrande and Club America will have another showdown at 2019 and any lingering suspicious that Club America are the better side can be put to bed once and for all.

Re: China: Joining the First World

PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 6:30 am
by Serbia
mrswdk wrote:
nietzsche wrote:about guanzu vs america, or however it's spelled, stop trolling mrs wok. they were naive with a few good players, club america gave away the match by being overconfident and then fighting among themselves. 2 mistakes, the last when there was no time left and that happened. if they played 100 times, club america would win 99.


In others words, Club America played worse than Guangzhou Evergrande and as a result lost the match. No shit.

Stop talking like a loser.


Hope Solo was terminated for the type of attitude you're displaying here niet, so be glad you're not an American woman!

Re: China: Joining the First World

PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 6:54 pm
by muy_thaiguy
nietzsche wrote:was that the one with charlie sheen? that movie was pretty funny, or maybe i had a different idea of funny when i was a teen.


about guanzu vs america, or however it's spelled, stop trolling mrs wok. they were naive with a few good players, club america gave away the match by being overconfident and then fighting among themselves. 2 mistakes, the last when there was no time left and that happened. if they played 100 times, club america would win 99.

Yeah, it was the one with Charlie Sheen.

Re: China: Joining the First World

PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2016 6:51 pm
by DoomYoshi
Here is their mascot...
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