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The revolution continues

PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 3:04 pm
by mrswdk
He may have been narrowly edged in the contest for the Democratic nomination, but that certainly hasn't put a dampener on Bernie Sanders' crusade.

SOUTH HERO, Vt. (AP) — U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders, an advocate for the working people, has bought his third house for nearly $600,000.

Fresh off the presidential campaign trail, the self-described Democratic socialist bought a seasonal waterfront home in North Hero, Vermont, in the Lake Champlain islands, for $575,000, as first reported by Seven Days weekly newspaper.

The independent senator and his wife also own a row house in Washington, D.C., and a home in Burlington, Vermont, a Sanders' spokesman said Thursday.


No doubt he bought this house in order to prevent a grubby Wall Streeter being able to buy it. Hooray for Bernie - now there'll be one less greedy elite sunning themselves on the shores of Lake Champlain!

Re: The revolution continues

PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 3:24 pm
by Dukasaur
mrswdk wrote:He may have been narrowly edged in the contest for the Democratic nomination, but that certainly hasn't put a dampener on Bernie Sanders' crusade.

SOUTH HERO, Vt. (AP) — U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders, an advocate for the working people, has bought his third house for nearly $600,000.

Fresh off the presidential campaign trail, the self-described Democratic socialist bought a seasonal waterfront home in North Hero, Vermont, in the Lake Champlain islands, for $575,000, as first reported by Seven Days weekly newspaper.

The independent senator and his wife also own a row house in Washington, D.C., and a home in Burlington, Vermont, a Sanders' spokesman said Thursday.


No doubt he bought this house in order to prevent a grubby Wall Streeter being able to buy it. Hooray for Bernie - now there'll be one less greedy elite sunning themselves on the shores of Lake Champlain!

$600K is not elite-level housing. That's decidedly middle class, even lower-middle, in most places.

Re: The revolution continues

PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 3:47 pm
by mrswdk
Watch out, people. Last time he was claiming that calling someone on $100k a year a 'little person' was reasonable. Well, now Dukasaur is back to lay down some more home truths!

What do you reckon, gang? Does buying a third home costing more than double the average American family home, purely as a place to grab the occasional weekend away in the country, sound middle to lower-middle class to you?


Re: The revolution continues

PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 7:16 pm
by muy_thaiguy
Dukasaur wrote:
mrswdk wrote:He may have been narrowly edged in the contest for the Democratic nomination, but that certainly hasn't put a dampener on Bernie Sanders' crusade.

SOUTH HERO, Vt. (AP) — U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders, an advocate for the working people, has bought his third house for nearly $600,000.

Fresh off the presidential campaign trail, the self-described Democratic socialist bought a seasonal waterfront home in North Hero, Vermont, in the Lake Champlain islands, for $575,000, as first reported by Seven Days weekly newspaper.

The independent senator and his wife also own a row house in Washington, D.C., and a home in Burlington, Vermont, a Sanders' spokesman said Thursday.


No doubt he bought this house in order to prevent a grubby Wall Streeter being able to buy it. Hooray for Bernie - now there'll be one less greedy elite sunning themselves on the shores of Lake Champlain!

$600K is not elite-level housing. That's decidedly middle class, even lower-middle, in most places.

You have to remember, mrswdk thinks only in extremes. Extremely poor;
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Or extremely rich.
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Oddly enough, despite her and China disparaging the West in almost everything they can, the rich sure do like to live it up in Western-style houses.

Re: The revolution continues

PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2016 3:06 am
by saxitoxin
Here's a $550K one from Zillow that's 2 miles outside North Hero - not super luxurious but for a weekend house seems bountiful - it's listed a 3 bed / 3 bath on 15 acres - if Bernie got this one he could turn the barn into a coffee shop with an ironic name and live music and poetry readings from a local indie rock musician named Forest or Logan

http://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sale/pm ... ect/11_zm/

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Re: The revolution continues

PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2016 3:22 am
by Dukasaur
Man, you guys live in some depressed areas.

In Toronto, average house price just hit 1.28 million:
http://www.citynews.ca/2016/06/03/average-house-price-in-toronto-continues-to-rise-to-1-28m-in-may/

Mind you, that's Canadian dollars, but even in American dollars its $950,000.

Re: The revolution continues

PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2016 3:26 am
by saxitoxin
Dukasaur wrote:Man, you guys live in some depressed areas.

In Toronto, average house price just hit 1.28 million:
http://www.citynews.ca/2016/06/03/average-house-price-in-toronto-continues-to-rise-to-1-28m-in-may/

Mind you, that's Canadian dollars, but even in American dollars its $950,000.


Can't compare house prices in the third largest city in NorAm to someplace called North Hero, Vermont!

Re: The revolution continues

PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2016 3:50 am
by Dukasaur
saxitoxin wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:Man, you guys live in some depressed areas.

In Toronto, average house price just hit 1.28 million:
http://www.citynews.ca/2016/06/03/average-house-price-in-toronto-continues-to-rise-to-1-28m-in-may/

Mind you, that's Canadian dollars, but even in American dollars its $950,000.


Can't compare house prices in the third largest city in NorAm to someplace called North Hero, Vermont!


I suppose not, but even in some ghetto like Gary, Indiana, I'm sure $750K won't buy you Park Place and Boardwalk.

Re: The revolution continues

PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2016 4:23 am
by mrswdk
Great stuff as ever, Duk. House prices in big cities are higher than house prices in the country, therefore most people in the city probably own three homes.

Re: The revolution continues

PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2016 4:34 am
by Dukasaur
mrswdk wrote:Great stuff as ever, Duk. House prices in big cities are higher than house prices in the country, therefore most people in the city probably own three homes.

It's not unusual for a middle class family to have one house where they live, a second house as an investment property, and a cottage or vacation home somewhere. Regardless of the price. Stop grasping at straws to prove a point that can't be proven and just admit you were wrong. Owning a $750,000 vacation home does not place you among the elite of any nation.

Re: The revolution continues

PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2016 5:05 am
by mrswdk
Dukasaur wrote:It's not unusual for a middle class family to have one house where they live, a second house as an investment property, and a cottage or vacation home somewhere. Regardless of the price. Stop grasping at straws to prove a point that can't be proven and just admit you were wrong. Owning a $750,000 vacation home does not place you among the elite of any nation.


There are a bit more than 124 million households in the United States.

7.3 million, or 6 per cent, own a second home. Of those who own a second home, roughly 8-10 per cent have a summer home. That's 8-10 per cent of 7.3 per cent of all Americans (less than 1 per cent) owning a summer home.

And Bernie owns not just a comfy summer home, but also a second home somewhere else in the US.

Bling bling!

Re: The revolution continues

PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2016 5:22 am
by Dukasaur
mrswdk wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:It's not unusual for a middle class family to have one house where they live, a second house as an investment property, and a cottage or vacation home somewhere. Regardless of the price. Stop grasping at straws to prove a point that can't be proven and just admit you were wrong. Owning a $750,000 vacation home does not place you among the elite of any nation.


There are a bit more than 124 million households in the United States.

7.3 million, or 6 per cent, own a second home. Of those who own a second home, roughly 8-10 per cent have a summer home. That's 8-10 per cent of 7.3 per cent of all Americans (less than 1 per cent) owning a summer home.

And Bernie owns not just a comfy summer home, but also a second home somewhere else in the US.

Bling bling!

You just gave evidence against yourself. 7.3 million households, at an average of perhaps 3 people per household, is something like 22 million people. These 22 million are not on the Board of Directors of the Chase Manhattan. I hear the boardroom of the Chase Manhattan is pretty big, but I doubt there's room for that many!

These are ordinary, middle-class people. Comfy, yes. Not part of the ruling class. Well-to-do, you might say. Not elite.

These are doctors, lawyers, computer programmers, professors, engineers. Middle class. Maybe above average even within the middle class, but nowhere near ruling class status.

I'll bet occassionally even a vacuum-cleaner salesman who's really good at his job manages to get a vacation home.

Re: The revolution continues

PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2016 5:29 am
by mrswdk
Dukasaur wrote:
mrswdk wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:It's not unusual for a middle class family to have one house where they live, a second house as an investment property, and a cottage or vacation home somewhere. Regardless of the price. Stop grasping at straws to prove a point that can't be proven and just admit you were wrong. Owning a $750,000 vacation home does not place you among the elite of any nation.


There are a bit more than 124 million households in the United States.

7.3 million, or 6 per cent, own a second home. Of those who own a second home, roughly 8-10 per cent have a summer home. That's 8-10 per cent of 7.3 per cent of all Americans (less than 1 per cent) owning a summer home.

And Bernie owns not just a comfy summer home, but also a second home somewhere else in the US.

Bling bling!

You just gave evidence against yourself. 7.3 million households, at an average of perhaps 3 people per household, is something like 22 million people. These 22 million are not on the Board of Directors of the Chase Manhattan. I hear the boardroom of the Chase Manhattan is pretty big, but I doubt there's room for that many!

These are ordinary, middle-class people. Comfy, yes. Not part of the ruling class. Well-to-do, you might say. Not elite.


These are 6 per cent of Americans. That means Bernie is living a lifestyle unavailable to 94 per cent of Americans. All hail the great man of the people!

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Re: The revolution continues

PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2016 5:39 am
by Dukasaur
mrswdk wrote:
These are 6 per cent of Americans. That means Bernie is living a lifestyle unavailable to 94 per cent of Americans. All hail the great man of the people!

I very much doubt if a vacation home is out of reach of 94 percent of Americans. People have different priorities. I'm sure a great many could have a vacation home, but choose to have something else instead.

Re: The revolution continues

PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2016 5:47 am
by mrswdk
We get it, Duk. All these rambles about how $100 is cheap for a sandwich are designed to impress us with how flash you are. We all think you are very flash.

Now let's get back to roasting Bernie over his swanky lifestyle.

Re: The revolution continues

PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2016 6:04 am
by Dukasaur
mrswdk wrote:We get it, Duk. All these rambles about how $100 is cheap for a sandwich are designed to impress us with how flash you are. We all think you are very flash.

Now let's get back to roasting Bernie over his swanky lifestyle.


You're wrong. I'm just a blue-collar working stiff.

But okay, I'll be a good sport. Let's get back to roasting Bernie over his swanky lifestyle.

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Re: The revolution continues

PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2016 6:11 am
by mrswdk
Yay. Much harmonious! ^0^

I wonder how all those people who rushed to donate money to Sanders from their own pockets feel, in light of his kowtow to Hillary and subsequent retreat off into the sunset to loaf around his luxury property portfolio.

Bernie, 2 months ago: 'Hillary has used her position to profit from cosy speaking engagements for her own benefit! People like here are why the system must be changed!'
Bernie, now: 'How many marble bathtubs can I buy for my new penthouse using the remains of my campaign funds?'

Re: The revolution continues

PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2016 8:50 pm
by muy_thaiguy
mrswdk wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:
mrswdk wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:It's not unusual for a middle class family to have one house where they live, a second house as an investment property, and a cottage or vacation home somewhere. Regardless of the price. Stop grasping at straws to prove a point that can't be proven and just admit you were wrong. Owning a $750,000 vacation home does not place you among the elite of any nation.


There are a bit more than 124 million households in the United States.

7.3 million, or 6 per cent, own a second home. Of those who own a second home, roughly 8-10 per cent have a summer home. That's 8-10 per cent of 7.3 per cent of all Americans (less than 1 per cent) owning a summer home.

And Bernie owns not just a comfy summer home, but also a second home somewhere else in the US.

Bling bling!

You just gave evidence against yourself. 7.3 million households, at an average of perhaps 3 people per household, is something like 22 million people. These 22 million are not on the Board of Directors of the Chase Manhattan. I hear the boardroom of the Chase Manhattan is pretty big, but I doubt there's room for that many!

These are ordinary, middle-class people. Comfy, yes. Not part of the ruling class. Well-to-do, you might say. Not elite.


These are 6 per cent of Americans. That means Bernie is living a lifestyle unavailable to 94 per cent of Americans. All hail the great man of the people!

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So... No one is going to point out the irony of this post and the context in which Animal Farm was written? Or just going to keep quietly snickering without pointing it out?

Re: The revolution continues

PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2016 9:22 pm
by DirtyDishSoap
Kind of have to agree with Duk here. It's not uncommon. My folks did it in the past, they do it now, but they're not elitist.

Some people just buy homes to flip it and raise the value, or rent it out or just as a get away. It's not celebrity status where they need a mansion full of bullshit, 15 different cars and such.

This thread is 1/10.

Re: The revolution continues

PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2016 9:25 pm
by saxitoxin
DirtyDishSoap wrote:Kind of have to agree with Duk here. It's not uncommon. My folks did it in the past, they do it now, but they're not elitist.

Some people just buy homes to flip it and raise the value, or rent it out or just as a get away. It's not celebrity status where they need a mansion full of bullshit, 15 different cars and such.

This thread is 1/10.


YOUR 1/10 JACKWAGON

Re: The revolution continues

PostPosted: Sat Aug 20, 2016 1:00 am
by DirtyDishSoap
Your face is a 1/10 you fat virgin.

Re: The revolution continues

PostPosted: Sat Aug 20, 2016 8:59 am
by mrswdk
muy_thaiguy wrote:
mrswdk wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:
mrswdk wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:It's not unusual for a middle class family to have one house where they live, a second house as an investment property, and a cottage or vacation home somewhere. Regardless of the price. Stop grasping at straws to prove a point that can't be proven and just admit you were wrong. Owning a $750,000 vacation home does not place you among the elite of any nation.


There are a bit more than 124 million households in the United States.

7.3 million, or 6 per cent, own a second home. Of those who own a second home, roughly 8-10 per cent have a summer home. That's 8-10 per cent of 7.3 per cent of all Americans (less than 1 per cent) owning a summer home.

And Bernie owns not just a comfy summer home, but also a second home somewhere else in the US.

Bling bling!

You just gave evidence against yourself. 7.3 million households, at an average of perhaps 3 people per household, is something like 22 million people. These 22 million are not on the Board of Directors of the Chase Manhattan. I hear the boardroom of the Chase Manhattan is pretty big, but I doubt there's room for that many!

These are ordinary, middle-class people. Comfy, yes. Not part of the ruling class. Well-to-do, you might say. Not elite.


These are 6 per cent of Americans. That means Bernie is living a lifestyle unavailable to 94 per cent of Americans. All hail the great man of the people!

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So... No one is going to point out the irony of this post and the context in which Animal Farm was written? Or just going to keep quietly snickering without pointing it out?


Everyone is well aware Animal Farm was written about the Soviet Union, Glenn Beck.

Re: The revolution continues

PostPosted: Sat Aug 20, 2016 9:09 am
by Dukasaur
mrswdk wrote:
muy_thaiguy wrote:
mrswdk wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:
mrswdk wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:It's not unusual for a middle class family to have one house where they live, a second house as an investment property, and a cottage or vacation home somewhere. Regardless of the price. Stop grasping at straws to prove a point that can't be proven and just admit you were wrong. Owning a $750,000 vacation home does not place you among the elite of any nation.


There are a bit more than 124 million households in the United States.

7.3 million, or 6 per cent, own a second home. Of those who own a second home, roughly 8-10 per cent have a summer home. That's 8-10 per cent of 7.3 per cent of all Americans (less than 1 per cent) owning a summer home.

And Bernie owns not just a comfy summer home, but also a second home somewhere else in the US.

Bling bling!

You just gave evidence against yourself. 7.3 million households, at an average of perhaps 3 people per household, is something like 22 million people. These 22 million are not on the Board of Directors of the Chase Manhattan. I hear the boardroom of the Chase Manhattan is pretty big, but I doubt there's room for that many!

These are ordinary, middle-class people. Comfy, yes. Not part of the ruling class. Well-to-do, you might say. Not elite.


These are 6 per cent of Americans. That means Bernie is living a lifestyle unavailable to 94 per cent of Americans. All hail the great man of the people!

Image

So... No one is going to point out the irony of this post and the context in which Animal Farm was written? Or just going to keep quietly snickering without pointing it out?


Everyone is well aware Animal Farm was written about the Soviet Union, Glenn Beck.


Is that different than the Platinum Lounge?

Re: The revolution continues

PostPosted: Sat Aug 20, 2016 7:39 pm
by tzor
DirtyDishSoap wrote:Some people just buy homes to flip it and raise the value, or rent it out or just as a get away.


Flipping houses is wrong. The floor should always be below the roof. If you don't flip it exactly right your house turns upside down.

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And that's just wrong.

Re: The revolution continues

PostPosted: Sat Aug 20, 2016 7:54 pm
by Symmetry
Dukasaur wrote:Is [Animal Farm] different than the Platinum Lounge?


Christ, that's a depressingly accurate observation.