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French man sues company over 'boring' job

PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 4:01 am
by mrswdk
A Frenchman is suing his former employer for "bore out" - boredom's equivalent of burnout - which he says turned him into a "professional zombie". Frederic Desnard wants 360,000 euros (£300,000) for being "killed professionally through boredom" by his 80,000-euro-a-year job as an executive in a perfume business. But is "bore out" real?

"It was just so boring. I felt ill knowing I had to go back on Monday morning," says Steve Coster about his time as an insurance broker.

"Every aspect of it was the same. The commute every day is the same, the people are the same, the lunch is the same. You turn up every morning and sit there."


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-36195442

Is there anything lazier than a Frenchman?

Re: French man sues company over 'boring' job

PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 9:49 am
by william18
mrswdk wrote:
A Frenchman is suing his former employer for "bore out" - boredom's equivalent of burnout - which he says turned him into a "professional zombie". Frederic Desnard wants 360,000 euros (£300,000) for being "killed professionally through boredom" by his 80,000-euro-a-year job as an executive in a perfume business. But is "bore out" real?

"It was just so boring. I felt ill knowing I had to go back on Monday morning," says Steve Coster about his time as an insurance broker.

"Every aspect of it was the same. The commute every day is the same, the people are the same, the lunch is the same. You turn up every morning and sit there."


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-36195442

Is there anything lazier than a Frenchman?


MOD EDIT (Razorvich)

Re: French man sues company over 'boring' job

PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 10:13 am
by Bernie Sanders
william18 wrote:
mrswdk wrote:
A Frenchman is suing his former employer for "bore out" - boredom's equivalent of burnout - which he says turned him into a "professional zombie". Frederic Desnard wants 360,000 euros (£300,000) for being "killed professionally through boredom" by his 80,000-euro-a-year job as an executive in a perfume business. But is "bore out" real?

"It was just so boring. I felt ill knowing I had to go back on Monday morning," says Steve Coster about his time as an insurance broker.

"Every aspect of it was the same. The commute every day is the same, the people are the same, the lunch is the same. You turn up every morning and sit there."


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-36195442

Is there anything lazier than a Frenchman?


MOD EDIT (Razorvich)

The bigot speaks. The heart and soul of the Republican Party.

Re: French man sues company over 'boring' job

PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 10:41 am
by djelebert
mrswdk wrote:
A Frenchman is suing his former employer for "bore out" - boredom's equivalent of burnout - which he says turned him into a "professional zombie". Frederic Desnard wants 360,000 euros (£300,000) for being "killed professionally through boredom" by his 80,000-euro-a-year job as an executive in a perfume business. But is "bore out" real?

"It was just so boring. I felt ill knowing I had to go back on Monday morning," says Steve Coster about his time as an insurance broker.

"Every aspect of it was the same. The commute every day is the same, the people are the same, the lunch is the same. You turn up every morning and sit there."


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-36195442

Is there anything lazier than a Frenchman?



Let's talking about laziness, your conclusion is based on your quotation? It is about a frenchman and one guy in Essex (wellknown french region) :-) You were too lazy to read whole article? :-)


I answer to you, because it was a discussion subject with a english customer and friend, we were talking about laziness at work , difference between french and english system etc.

He finally agrees that english people can't talk about laziness of other countries, when they are enable to command a beer and food in another language... :D

Re: French man sues company over 'boring' job

PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 10:50 am
by william18
Bernie Sanders wrote:
william18 wrote:
mrswdk wrote:
A Frenchman is suing his former employer for "bore out" - boredom's equivalent of burnout - which he says turned him into a "professional zombie". Frederic Desnard wants 360,000 euros (£300,000) for being "killed professionally through boredom" by his 80,000-euro-a-year job as an executive in a perfume business. But is "bore out" real?

"It was just so boring. I felt ill knowing I had to go back on Monday morning," says Steve Coster about his time as an insurance broker.

"Every aspect of it was the same. The commute every day is the same, the people are the same, the lunch is the same. You turn up every morning and sit there."


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-36195442

Is there anything lazier than a Frenchman?


MOD EDIT (Razorvich)

The bigot speaks. The heart and soul of the Republican Party.


But its ok to joke about Frenchmen?

Re: French man sues company over 'boring' job

PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 10:52 am
by KoolBak
The bigot speaks. The heart and soul of the Republican Party.

Just....wow. This has to be the single most offensive thing I can recall reading here. You are such a tool.....and I don't point fingers at your entire party...it's obviously just you.

Incre foe list =D>

Re: French man sues company over 'boring' job

PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 11:01 am
by mrswdk
djelebert wrote:
mrswdk wrote:
A Frenchman is suing his former employer for "bore out" - boredom's equivalent of burnout - which he says turned him into a "professional zombie". Frederic Desnard wants 360,000 euros (£300,000) for being "killed professionally through boredom" by his 80,000-euro-a-year job as an executive in a perfume business. But is "bore out" real?

"It was just so boring. I felt ill knowing I had to go back on Monday morning," says Steve Coster about his time as an insurance broker.

"Every aspect of it was the same. The commute every day is the same, the people are the same, the lunch is the same. You turn up every morning and sit there."


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-36195442

Is there anything lazier than a Frenchman?



Let's talking about laziness, your conclusion is based on your quotation? It is about a frenchman and one guy in Essex (wellknown french region) :-) You were too lazy to read whole article? :-)


I did not see anything in the article about an Englishman suing his company because he thinks his job is too boring for him.

I answer to you, because it was a discussion subject with a english customer and friend, we were talking about laziness at work , difference between french and english system etc.

He finally agrees that english people can't talk about laziness of other countries, when they are enable to command a beer and food in another language... :D


I fail to see what's lazy about learning the one language which everyone else is able to speak and then sticking to that. Sounds efficient to me.

Re: French man sues company over 'boring' job

PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 11:16 am
by djelebert
Appararently, mrswdk didn't want to joke and stay rude. too jaded for me!

Sorry to have disturbed you, I let you searching others interessant laziness' articles at work... :D

Re: French man sues company over 'boring' job

PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 11:47 am
by mrswdk
Where's betiko when you need a translator?

Re: French man sues company over 'boring' job

PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 12:44 pm
by waauw
mrswdk wrote:Where's betiko when you need a translator?


djelebert is french

Re: French man sues company over 'boring' job

PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 1:18 pm
by Serbia
waauw wrote:
mrswdk wrote:Where's betiko when you need a translator?


djelebert is french


Yeah, that's his point...

Re: French man sues company over 'boring' job

PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 2:25 pm
by TA1LGUNN3R
Guy makes like $90k a year and bitches about "boring?" He should be punched in the dick.

-TG

Re: French man sues company over 'boring' job

PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 5:31 pm
by Dukasaur
TA1LGUNN3R wrote:Guy makes like $90k a year and bitches about "boring?" He should be punched in the dick.

-TG

Probably a quarter of the people in the western world make $90K or better, and most of them are bored.

That's a lot of dick-punching you're going to have to hand out.

Re: French man sues company over 'boring' job

PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 9:15 pm
by TA1LGUNN3R
Dukasaur wrote:
TA1LGUNN3R wrote:Guy makes like $90k a year and bitches about "boring?" He should be punched in the dick.

-TG

Probably a quarter of the people in the western world make $90K or better, and most of them are bored.

That's a lot of dick-punching you're going to have to hand out.


That seems awfully high.

If someone were to pay me $90k/year to do so, i wouldn't mind all that dick punching.

I think even if the percentage of people earning that kind of money is correct, they'd have the good sense not to try to sue over "boredom." I make substantially less, am bored at work all the time, I'm not gonna sue the company because I regret life decisions.

-TG

Re: French man sues company over 'boring' job

PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 1:35 am
by mrswdk
A quarter of people in Western countries make $90k+ a year? Where'd you conjure that nonsense figure from Duk?

A cursory Google says that in America 6% of people earn $100k or more a year, and it's likely lower in most other Western countries given America is richer than most of them.

Re: French man sues company over 'boring' job

PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 6:34 am
by BrutalBob
mrswdk wrote:A quarter of people in Western countries make $90k+ a year? Where'd you conjure that nonsense figure from Duk?

A cursory Google says that in America 6% of people earn $100k or more a year, and it's likely lower in most other Western countries given America is richer than most of them.


Agreed. Can I still get a punch in the dick though.

So bored

Re: French man sues company over 'boring' job

PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 7:21 am
by Dukasaur
mrswdk wrote:A quarter of people in Western countries make $90k+ a year? Where'd you conjure that nonsense figure from Duk?

A cursory Google says that in America 6% of people earn $100k or more a year, and it's likely lower in most other Western countries given America is richer than most of them.

I suspect that 6% includes all people, including children, the unemployed, retired people, etc. I was thinking about a quarter of people that actually have jobs. If you're talking about what people earn at work, then including numbers for people not in the workforce is nonsensical.

In Canada, the median income of people in the workforce is $51K. That's basically where I based my rough estimate. Just a ballpark working from the median. I figure if half the people make more than 50K, then a quarter of the people should make something more than $75K. That's in Canada, and in most G7 nations wages are higher, so I figured their stats would raise the average quite a bit.

Finding a more exact number seems difficult. According to this article in the Financial Post, people in Canada earning $75,000 are in the 27th percentile, while those earning $100,000 are in the 14th percentile. So, yeah, in Canada it's probably more like 1/5th or 1/6 that are making over 90K. Again, I figured that the numbers for the other western nations would raise the average, although now that I'm looking at actual numbers, they don't seem to. So I guess 1/5 or 1/6 would probably be closer than 1/4.

Re: French man sues company over 'boring' job

PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 7:57 am
by mrswdk
Dukasaur wrote:
mrswdk wrote:A quarter of people in Western countries make $90k+ a year? Where'd you conjure that nonsense figure from Duk?

A cursory Google says that in America 6% of people earn $100k or more a year, and it's likely lower in most other Western countries given America is richer than most of them.

I suspect that 6% includes all people, including children, the unemployed, retired people, etc. I was thinking about a quarter of people that actually have jobs. If you're talking about what people earn at work, then including numbers for people not in the workforce is nonsensical.

In Canada, the median income of people in the workforce is $51K. That's basically where I based my rough estimate. Just a ballpark working from the median. I figure if half the people make more than 50K, then a quarter of the people should make something more than $75K. That's in Canada, and in most G7 nations wages are higher, so I figured their stats would raise the average quite a bit.

Finding a more exact number seems difficult. According to this article in the Financial Post, people in Canada earning $75,000 are in the 27th percentile, while those earning $100,000 are in the 14th percentile. So, yeah, in Canada it's probably more like 1/5th or 1/6 that are making over 90K. Again, I figured that the numbers for the other western nations would raise the average, although now that I'm looking at actual numbers, they don't seem to. So I guess 1/5 or 1/6 would probably be closer than 1/4.


The last table here says the median personal income for full-time workers aged 25-64 in America is $39.5k.

The graph in the section titled 'income distribution' shows that, in America, 7% of Americans aged 25-64 who have earnings earn more than $100k and only 12.6% have earnings over $75k. So when you only take into account working aged people who are currently earning, you've got less than 10% of Americans earning $90k+.

Income distribution within a nation is usually bell-shaped and heavily clustered around the median so I have no idea why you would assume that 'median is 51k means upper quartile is 75k'.

tl;dr 25% of Westerners do not earn 90k+

Re: French man sues company over 'boring' job

PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 11:37 am
by DirtyDishSoap
KoolBak wrote:The bigot speaks. The heart and soul of the Republican Party.

Just....wow. This has to be the single most offensive thing I can recall reading here. You are such a tool.....and I don't point fingers at your entire party...it's obviously just you.

Incre foe list =D>

I don't think I've ever seen you openly foe someone. lol

Re: French man sues company over 'boring' job

PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 12:20 pm
by Army of GOD
laziness isn't even a stereotype of french people


lrn2racist

Re: French man sues company over 'boring' job

PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 3:50 pm
by mrswdk

Re: French man sues company over 'boring' job

PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 10:57 pm
by Army of GOD
Wow, you cherry picked a bias confirming article


Would you like saxi to rub your clit?

Re: French man sues company over 'boring' job

PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2016 1:58 am
by mrswdk
ITT: AoG ungraciously concedes that laziness is in fact a stereotype of French people.

Re: French man sues company over 'boring' job

PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2016 3:18 am
by WingCmdr Ginkapo
Army of GOD wrote:Wow, you cherry picked a bias confirming article


Would you like saxi to rub your clit?


AoG, we are having to build a lorry park near the chanel tunnel because the french port worker loves striking.

Thats right we are spending £250M because the french are lazy and strike regularly for no reason.

Re: French man sues company over 'boring' job

PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2016 3:41 am
by Donelladan
mrswdk wrote:
Army of GOD wrote:laziness isn't even a stereotype of french people


lrn2racist


no U

‘France has a reputation for having lazy workers’
How France Got So Lazy
Chinese Can't Understand Why The French Work So Little



I love the last article.
Your flag says you are Chinese mrswdk, I will assume it's the same, and that's why you are posting about French laziness.

A small quote from it :
While French workers worry the country's long economic downturn could mean the end of laws banning Sunday trading and enforcing a 35-hour week, Zhang and Chinese immigrants like him are quietly getting ahead the old-fashioned way - 11 hours a day, six days a week.


Well, you want to say we are lazy, and you want to keep working 11hours a day 6 days a week, while French people work 35 hours a week, 5 days a week.
BE MY GUEST.

You think we are lazy, truth is we enjoy our lives much more than you Chinese do. I have no problem with you calling me lazy, I pity Chinese way of life. I truly do.
Remember me how much holiday do you have a year ? What a joke.

Btw, your 2nd article is a piece of shit written by a total liberal capitalist mind spreading serious bullshit of how things work in France - allow me not to share his view on how the world has to work.

1st article you quote it but probably didn't read it :

‘France has a reputation for having lazy workers’
More than a decade after it was introduced, the 35-hour workweek still projects an image of France as being one of the most laid-back places in the world to work. In most of the rest of the euro zone, the 40-hour workweek is standard. But in reality, France’s 35-hour week has become largely symbolic, as employees across the country pull longer hours and work more intensely, with productivity per hour about 13 per cent higher than the euro zone average.


Our productivity is higher than the average in euro zone, productivity being, imho, much more relevant that hours "worked" if you wanna speak about laziness.

If you read the article, it's actually saying that we got the reputation of being lazy, but we aren't, and then it only talk about the 35h hours a week rules in France.-


So, reputation are a joke, very far from reality.


Finally, speaking about your example in the OP. As djelebert tried to tell you, the first 3 paragraph are about the french guy, then the rest of the article, like 90% of it, is about boredom at work in UK, speaking about people from UK. It has nothing to do with french, it's only using the french guy working in UK as an example of how boredom is a problem in UK.