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White privilege is a myth.

Postby demonfork on Mon May 23, 2016 3:15 pm

I'm on my way to Shanghai and I was fortunate enough to secure $10,000 first class seats. I have never flown first class internationally before and after this experience it's going to be difficult to go back to the real world.

This experience didn't start on the plane it started when I was directed to go thru the vip line to check in. There wasn't any waiting in line and the attendants at the desk were nicer and more respectful over any other exchange that I've had with airport employees.

Security was also a breeze as I was routed thru another vip line. Once thru security I was escorted to the vip lounge where I was offered massages and champagne while I waited for my flight.

Once boarding started, my group was the first to board. I was escorted to my seat that is more like a bed and less like a seat. I was immediately waited on hand and foot, offerd blankets, pillows, slippers, hot towels, champagne and a virety of snacks.

I have made this flight many times in the past and I usually dread the flight because coach is such a grueling experience. In first class, I hope it never ends.

There are many different races, colors and cultures here in first class. Privilege here has no color, everyone gets the same superb treatment regardless of how they look.

The only true privilege is wealth. Money can buy anyone all of the privilege that they could ever need.
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Re: White privilege is a myth.

Postby mrswdk on Mon May 23, 2016 3:39 pm

demonfork wrote:I'm on my way to Shanghai


Try not to pussy out and head home within the week like you did last time.
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Postby Symmetry on Mon May 23, 2016 10:44 pm

DƩjƠ vu?
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Postby TA1LGUNN3R on Mon May 23, 2016 11:17 pm

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demonfork wrote:I'm on my way to Shanghai


Try not to pussy out and head home within the week like you did last time.
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Re: White privilege is a myth.

Postby Metsfanmax on Mon May 23, 2016 11:19 pm

ITT: random internet person disproves an entire sociological construction with an anecdotal experience in an airport.
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Postby Symmetry on Mon May 23, 2016 11:49 pm

Metsfanmax wrote:ITT: random internet person disproves an entire sociological construction with an anecdotal experience in an airport.


Nah, you overestimate him. He just wanted to brag about flying first class. Read it again and see if he brings up money before he discusses race.
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Postby thegreekdog on Tue May 24, 2016 10:29 am

Metsfanmax wrote:ITT: random internet person disproves an entire sociological construction with an anecdotal experience in an airport.


Separately, I wonder in 2016 how much wealth factors into fear/hate/differences than race or ethnicity.
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Postby Dukasaur on Thu May 26, 2016 5:44 am

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Re: White privilege is a myth.

Postby Symmetry on Thu May 26, 2016 8:32 pm

thegreekdog wrote:
Metsfanmax wrote:ITT: random internet person disproves an entire sociological construction with an anecdotal experience in an airport.


Separately, I wonder in 2016 how much wealth factors into fear/hate/differences than race or ethnicity.


I'm not sure it's ever been separate. Inequality, whether perceived or real has always been a part of racism.
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Postby william18 on Thu May 26, 2016 9:35 pm

I think the notion that white people are the only ones to have it good is false. Look at the Asian demographic. Are Asians white? Are Asians benefiting from white privilege? They in fact out perform caucasians in terms of income, education, quality of life.

I would actually like to hear examples of White Privilage. Most if not all are derived from misfortune experienced by 'people of color'.
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Postby Symmetry on Thu May 26, 2016 9:55 pm

william18 wrote:I think the notion that white people are the only ones to have it good is false. Look at the Asian demographic. Are Asians white? Are Asians benefiting from white privilege? They in fact out perform caucasians in terms of income, education, quality of life.

I would actually like to hear examples of White Privilage. Most if not all are derived from misfortune experienced by 'people of color'.


Hmm, seems like you're setting an impossible task. If I post any example of white people being privileged over any other race, you'll dismiss it as an example off hand as a "misfortune experienced by 'people of color', as you phrase it.

Still, let's try-

http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424127887324432004578304463789858002

Prison sentences of black men were nearly 20% longer than those of white men for similar crimes in recent years, an analysis by the U.S. Sentencing Commission found.


Is that a fair enough example?
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Postby demonfork on Thu May 26, 2016 10:05 pm

Metsfanmax wrote:ITT: random internet person disproves an entire sociological construction with an anecdotal experience in an airport.


I saw a comment like this coming when I wrote my OP.

Nice strawman argument though but I wouldn't expect anything less from you.
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Re: White privilege is a myth.

Postby william18 on Thu May 26, 2016 10:20 pm

Symmetry wrote:
william18 wrote:I think the notion that white people are the only ones to have it good is false. Look at the Asian demographic. Are Asians white? Are Asians benefiting from white privilege? They in fact out perform caucasians in terms of income, education, quality of life.

I would actually like to hear examples of White Privilage. Most if not all are derived from misfortune experienced by 'people of color'.


Hmm, seems like you're setting an impossible task. If I post any example of white people being privileged over any other race, you'll dismiss it as an example off hand as a "misfortune experienced by 'people of color', as you phrase it.

Still, let's try-

http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424127887324432004578304463789858002

Prison sentences of black men were nearly 20% longer than those of white men for similar crimes in recent years, an analysis by the U.S. Sentencing Commission found.


Is that a fair enough example?


That is a a fair example of institutional bias. But that's not really an example people use when invoking 'White Privilege'. 'Hey, you don't know what its like serving 20% more prison time than a white man.". Unless they are criminals neither do they. When people such as SJW and regressive left point out white privilege, alot of the time it's to invalidate any opinions or arguments a person has simply because they are white, and have never faced 'hardship from institutional oppression". They are making assumptions based of color which is racist.
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Re: White privilege is a myth.

Postby Symmetry on Thu May 26, 2016 10:32 pm

william18 wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
william18 wrote:I think the notion that white people are the only ones to have it good is false. Look at the Asian demographic. Are Asians white? Are Asians benefiting from white privilege? They in fact out perform caucasians in terms of income, education, quality of life.

I would actually like to hear examples of White Privilage. Most if not all are derived from misfortune experienced by 'people of color'.


Hmm, seems like you're setting an impossible task. If I post any example of white people being privileged over any other race, you'll dismiss it as an example off hand as a "misfortune experienced by 'people of color', as you phrase it.

Still, let's try-

http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424127887324432004578304463789858002

Prison sentences of black men were nearly 20% longer than those of white men for similar crimes in recent years, an analysis by the U.S. Sentencing Commission found.


Is that a fair enough example?


That is a a fair example of institutional bias. But that's not really an example people use when invoking 'White Privilege'. 'Hey, you don't know what its like serving 20% more prison time than a white man.". Unless they are criminals neither do they. When people such as SJW and regressive left point out white privilege, alot of the time it's to invalidate any opinions or arguments a person has simply because they are white, and have never faced 'hardship from institutional oppression". They are making assumptions based of color which is racifist.


Well, it's really not clear what you want here. Clearly the legal system is biased, so if the law privileges white folk, what else do you need?

Poverty levels? Voting rights?

You're really gonna have to throw me a bone as to what you won't dismiss out of hand again.
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Postby william18 on Thu May 26, 2016 10:43 pm

Symmetry wrote:
william18 wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
william18 wrote:I think the notion that white people are the only ones to have it good is false. Look at the Asian demographic. Are Asians white? Are Asians benefiting from white privilege? They in fact out perform caucasians in terms of income, education, quality of life.

I would actually like to hear examples of White Privilage. Most if not all are derived from misfortune experienced by 'people of color'.


Hmm, seems like you're setting an impossible task. If I post any example of white people being privileged over any other race, you'll dismiss it as an example off hand as a "misfortune experienced by 'people of color', as you phrase it.

Still, let's try-

http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424127887324432004578304463789858002

Prison sentences of black men were nearly 20% longer than those of white men for similar crimes in recent years, an analysis by the U.S. Sentencing Commission found.


Is that a fair enough example?


That is a a fair example of institutional bias. But that's not really an example people use when invoking 'White Privilege'. 'Hey, you don't know what its like serving 20% more prison time than a white man.". Unless they are criminals neither do they. When people such as SJW and regressive left point out white privilege, alot of the time it's to invalidate any opinions or arguments a person has simply because they are white, and have never faced 'hardship from institutional oppression". They are making assumptions based of color which is racifist.


Well, it's really not clear what you want here. Clearly the legal system is biased, so if the law privileges white folk, what else do you need?

Poverty levels? Voting rights?

You're really gonna have to throw me a bone as to what you won't dismiss out of hand again.


Less than one percent of USA is incarcerated. I feel like this is the ultimate grasping at straws. Ill concede that they are sentenced unfairly, but how about an injustice proportional to the outcry from those opposed to white privilege?
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Postby Symmetry on Thu May 26, 2016 11:18 pm

william18 wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
william18 wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
william18 wrote:I think the notion that white people are the only ones to have it good is false. Look at the Asian demographic. Are Asians white? Are Asians benefiting from white privilege? They in fact out perform caucasians in terms of income, education, quality of life.

I would actually like to hear examples of White Privilage. Most if not all are derived from misfortune experienced by 'people of color'.


Hmm, seems like you're setting an impossible task. If I post any example of white people being privileged over any other race, you'll dismiss it as an example off hand as a "misfortune experienced by 'people of color', as you phrase it.

Still, let's try-

http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424127887324432004578304463789858002

Prison sentences of black men were nearly 20% longer than those of white men for similar crimes in recent years, an analysis by the U.S. Sentencing Commission found.


Is that a fair enough example?


That is a a fair example of institutional bias. But that's not really an example people use when invoking 'White Privilege'. 'Hey, you don't know what its like serving 20% more prison time than a white man.". Unless they are criminals neither do they. When people such as SJW and regressive left point out white privilege, alot of the time it's to invalidate any opinions or arguments a person has simply because they are white, and have never faced 'hardship from institutional oppression". They are making assumptions based of color which is racifist.


Well, it's really not clear what you want here. Clearly the legal system is biased, so if the law privileges white folk, what else do you need?

Poverty levels? Voting rights?

You're really gonna have to throw me a bone as to what you won't dismiss out of hand again.


Less than one percent of USA is incarcerated. I feel like this is the ultimate grasping at straws. Ill concede that they are sentenced unfairly, but how about an injustice proportional to the outcry from those opposed to white privilege?


The US has the largest prison population on Earth. It's massively, disproportionate oh black. It imprisons at a higher rate than Soviet Russia under the height of the Gulag system.

If the stats are to be believed, roughly 1 in 6 African American men are, or have been jailed. That's a major problem, and an injustice. About 1 in 100 African American women.

Taken as a whole, that's horrific. I don't know if you've looked at the stats, but that has to be a level that's concerning.

For what it's worth, Clinton at least promised to tackle this.
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Postby Army of GOD on Thu May 26, 2016 11:24 pm

Your mom's vagina is a myth


And by myth i mean I fucked your mother
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Postby TA1LGUNN3R on Thu May 26, 2016 11:34 pm

Symmetry wrote:
william18 wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
william18 wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
william18 wrote:I think the notion that white people are the only ones to have it good is false. Look at the Asian demographic. Are Asians white? Are Asians benefiting from white privilege? They in fact out perform caucasians in terms of income, education, quality of life.

I would actually like to hear examples of White Privilage. Most if not all are derived from misfortune experienced by 'people of color'.


Hmm, seems like you're setting an impossible task. If I post any example of white people being privileged over any other race, you'll dismiss it as an example off hand as a "misfortune experienced by 'people of color', as you phrase it.

Still, let's try-

http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424127887324432004578304463789858002

Prison sentences of black men were nearly 20% longer than those of white men for similar crimes in recent years, an analysis by the U.S. Sentencing Commission found.


Is that a fair enough example?


That is a a fair example of institutional bias. But that's not really an example people use when invoking 'White Privilege'. 'Hey, you don't know what its like serving 20% more prison time than a white man.". Unless they are criminals neither do they. When people such as SJW and regressive left point out white privilege, alot of the time it's to invalidate any opinions or arguments a person has simply because they are white, and have never faced 'hardship from institutional oppression". They are making assumptions based of color which is racifist.


Well, it's really not clear what you want here. Clearly the legal system is biased, so if the law privileges white folk, what else do you need?

Poverty levels? Voting rights?

You're really gonna have to throw me a bone as to what you won't dismiss out of hand again.


Less than one percent of USA is incarcerated. I feel like this is the ultimate grasping at straws. Ill concede that they are sentenced unfairly, but how about an injustice proportional to the outcry from those opposed to white privilege?


The US has the largest prison population on Earth. It's massively, disproportionate oh black. It imprisons at a higher rate than Soviet Russia under the height of the Gulag system.

If the stats are to be believed, roughly 1 in 6 African American men are, or have been jailed. That's a major problem, and an injustice. About 1 in 100 African American women.

Taken as a whole, that's horrific. I don't know if you've looked at the stats, but that has to be a level that's concerning.

For what it's worth, Clinton at least promised to tackle this.


Why is it you refer to blacks as African American but whites are simply white?

Step up your PC game, son. I'm offended.

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Postby william18 on Thu May 26, 2016 11:37 pm

Im not gonna quote all that to make it easier on the eyes.

Firstly, I think Clinton is just pandaring to the black community, big time. Her top two political leaders as she mentioned were Obama and Mandella. Not democratic heroes like Franklin Roosevelt.

Not only that, but considering that Hilary Clinton has accepted money from prison lobbyists, I doubt she will try to reduce prison population, hence cutting into prison revenue.

It's unfortunate that blacks are the majority in jail, but I think instead of going on wild goose chases in the form of trying to identify and fix instances of oppression in legislation, they should address the reality that many left wingers fail to accept: gang culture.

I'm not sure if you have the equivalent of Chicago or Baltimore in the UK, but kids in these areas are born into gang culture. Poverty and dismal education is the main culprit, as well as the viscous cycle of single mothers, and families resorting to crime to make ends meet. These kids don't want to be clutching a 9mm on the street whenever a vehicle with tinted windows pulls up. Equalizing the sentences isn't going to help them get off the streets.
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Postby TA1LGUNN3R on Thu May 26, 2016 11:40 pm

Mandela the child killer. Nice hero.

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Postby william18 on Thu May 26, 2016 11:45 pm

TA1LGUNN3R wrote:Mandela the child killer. Nice hero.

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Lol yeah. He orchestrated terrorism.
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Postby Symmetry on Fri May 27, 2016 12:22 am

william18 wrote:Im not gonna quote all that to make it easier on the eyes.

Firstly, I think Clinton is just pandaring to the black community, big time. Her top two political leaders as she mentioned were Obama and Mandella. Not democratic heroes like Franklin Roosevelt.

Not only that, but considering that Hilary Clinton has accepted money from prison lobbyists, I doubt she will try to reduce prison population, hence cutting into prison revenue.

It's unfortunate that blacks are the majority in jail, but I think instead of going on wild goose chases in the form of trying to identify and fix instances of oppression in legislation, they should address the reality that many left wingers fail to accept: gang culture.

I'm not sure if you have the equivalent of Chicago or Baltimore in the UK, but kids in these areas are born into gang culture. Poverty and dismal education is the main culprit, as well as the viscous cycle of single mothers, and families resorting to crime to make ends meet. These kids don't want to be clutching a 9mm on the street whenever a vehicle with tinted windows pulls up. Equalizing the sentences isn't going to help them get off the streets.


You can't embed that many quoutes in a post. That's just a thing. I don't make the rules, but that's what they are. Cute that you tried to pretend it was deliberate though.

I'm glad to see that you've latched on to the major issues at least. Endemic poverty and a legal system that is inherently biased. I am curious though, do you see a connection?

I mean, you've accepted that the legal system is unfair, and that black families are disproportionately affected, right? Do you think that has no effect on kids?

I'm curious, as you seem to have backed into a corner with this. Either jailing African Americans at a far far higher rate leads to the problems you bring up, say single-mums, poverty, and gangs, or it doesn't.

If it doesn't, can you even argue that you're being realistic anymore?
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Postby william18 on Fri May 27, 2016 12:33 am

Symmetry wrote:
william18 wrote:Im not gonna quote all that to make it easier on the eyes.

Firstly, I think Clinton is just pandaring to the black community, big time. Her top two political leaders as she mentioned were Obama and Mandella. Not democratic heroes like Franklin Roosevelt.

Not only that, but considering that Hilary Clinton has accepted money from prison lobbyists, I doubt she will try to reduce prison population, hence cutting into prison revenue.

It's unfortunate that blacks are the majority in jail, but I think instead of going on wild goose chases in the form of trying to identify and fix instances of oppression in legislation, they should address the reality that many left wingers fail to accept: gang culture.

I'm not sure if you have the equivalent of Chicago or Baltimore in the UK, but kids in these areas are born into gang culture. Poverty and dismal education is the main culprit, as well as the viscous cycle of single mothers, and families resorting to crime to make ends meet. These kids don't want to be clutching a 9mm on the street whenever a vehicle with tinted windows pulls up. Equalizing the sentences isn't going to help them get off the streets.


You can't embed that many quoutes in a post. That's just a thing. I don't make the rules, but that's what they are. Cute that you tried to pretend it was deliberate though.

I'm glad to see that you've latched on to the major issues at least. Endemic poverty and a legal system that is inherently biased. I am curious though, do you see a connection?

I mean, you've accepted that the legal system is unfair, and that black families are disproportionately affected, right? Do you think that has no effect on kids?

I'm curious, as you seem to have backed into a corner with this. Either jailing African Americans at a far far higher rate leads to the problems you bring up, say single-mums, poverty, and gangs, or it doesn't.

If it doesn't, can you even argue that you're being realistic anymore?


I didn't actually attempt to quote it, i haven't been on this forum for a while, so that must be a coincidence.

On the case of imprisonment it very well does affect the black community. But they are breaking the law aren't they? I would rather we made efforts to implement initiatives that can enrich communities and stop crime, instead of playing with sentence lengths.
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Postby Symmetry on Fri May 27, 2016 12:47 am

william18 wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
william18 wrote:Im not gonna quote all that to make it easier on the eyes.

Firstly, I think Clinton is just pandaring to the black community, big time. Her top two political leaders as she mentioned were Obama and Mandella. Not democratic heroes like Franklin Roosevelt.

Not only that, but considering that Hilary Clinton has accepted money from prison lobbyists, I doubt she will try to reduce prison population, hence cutting into prison revenue.

It's unfortunate that blacks are the majority in jail, but I think instead of going on wild goose chases in the form of trying to identify and fix instances of oppression in legislation, they should address the reality that many left wingers fail to accept: gang culture.

I'm not sure if you have the equivalent of Chicago or Baltimore in the UK, but kids in these areas are born into gang culture. Poverty and dismal education is the main culprit, as well as the viscous cycle of single mothers, and families resorting to crime to make ends meet. These kids don't want to be clutching a 9mm on the street whenever a vehicle with tinted windows pulls up. Equalizing the sentences isn't going to help them get off the streets.


You can't embed that many quoutes in a post. That's just a thing. I don't make the rules, but that's what they are. Cute that you tried to pretend it was deliberate though.

I'm glad to see that you've latched on to the major issues at least. Endemic poverty and a legal system that is inherently biased. I am curious though, do you see a connection?

I mean, you've accepted that the legal system is unfair, and that black families are disproportionately affected, right? Do you think that has no effect on kids?

I'm curious, as you seem to have backed into a corner with this. Either jailing African Americans at a far far higher rate leads to the problems you bring up, say single-mums, poverty, and gangs, or it doesn't.

If it doesn't, can you even argue that you're being realistic anymore?


I didn't actually attempt to quote it, i haven't been on this forum for a while, so that must be a coincidence.

On the case of imprisonment it very well does affect the black community. But they are breaking the law aren't they? I would rather we made efforts to implement initiatives that can enrich communities and stop crime, instead of playing with sentence lengths.


Do you think that the imprisonment rates, and racially biased sentencing help communities and stop crime?

I really don't see how creating more families without parents helps.
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Re: White privilege is a myth.

Postby TA1LGUNN3R on Fri May 27, 2016 1:35 am

Symmetry wrote:
william18 wrote:Im not gonna quote all that to make it easier on the eyes.

Firstly, I think Clinton is just pandaring to the black community, big time. Her top two political leaders as she mentioned were Obama and Mandella. Not democratic heroes like Franklin Roosevelt.

Not only that, but considering that Hilary Clinton has accepted money from prison lobbyists, I doubt she will try to reduce prison population, hence cutting into prison revenue.

It's unfortunate that blacks are the majority in jail, but I think instead of going on wild goose chases in the form of trying to identify and fix instances of oppression in legislation, they should address the reality that many left wingers fail to accept: gang culture.

I'm not sure if you have the equivalent of Chicago or Baltimore in the UK, but kids in these areas are born into gang culture. Poverty and dismal education is the main culprit, as well as the viscous cycle of single mothers, and families resorting to crime to make ends meet. These kids don't want to be clutching a 9mm on the street whenever a vehicle with tinted windows pulls up. Equalizing the sentences isn't going to help them get off the streets.


You can't embed that many quoutes in a post. That's just a thing. I don't make the rules, but that's what they are. Cute that you tried to pretend it was deliberate though.

I'm glad to see that you've latched on to the major issues at least. Endemic poverty and a legal system that is inherently biased. I am curious though, do you see a connection?

I mean, you've accepted that the legal system is unfair, and that black families are disproportionately affected, right? Do you think that has no effect on kids?

I'm curious, as you seem to have backed into a corner with this. Either jailing African Americans at a far far higher rate leads to the problems you bring up, say single-mums, poverty, and gangs, or it doesn't.

If it doesn't, can you even argue that you're being realistic anymore?


Charlize Theron is an African American. 99% of black Americans are not African.

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