by patches70 on Sun Mar 27, 2016 1:25 pm
Man, I collected comic books for decades. Maybe it's because I know enough about these characters to see how badly they (the film makers) screwed it all up.
One of the reasons why this movie is so bad is because they deviated from the source material so much. Batman and Superman fighting is completely separate from the Death of Superman. They fought for reasons entirely different than put forth in this movie. This isn't necessarily a bad thing if the reason why they are fighting in this movie makes sense. It doesn't. There is no logic and no rationale.
So that's how you want the characters for the future Justice league introduced? From CCTV tapes? How about a coherent movie with a coherent story? How about characters that act logically? The movie is filled with cliched tropes that distract from what could have been a really good story.
It's billed Batman vs Superman and yet if you've seen the trailers then you've seen pretty much the entirety of their fight. And that's ignoring the illogical hatred Batman has for Superman.
But then let's just go ahead and ignore that irrational response from Bruce Wayne and his hatred for Superman for a moment. So Batman, who has spending over 19 months figuring out how to kill Superman, plotting how he's going to do it and when it comes time for him to stab Superman with the Kyrptospear he stops because Clark Kent and Bruce Wayne's mothers are both named "Martha"? That is a ridiculous emotional contrivance. Ok, whatever, logically Batman would just stab Superman and be done. Batman doesn't give a shit about Superman's mother else he wouldn't be trying to kill Superman in the first place. "Oh, but Batman is really trying to save his own mother" one might counter. Ridiculous contrivance, 'nuff said.
Let's forget about that, during the fight Superman just had to grab Batman (he had plenty of opportunity), hold him down and say "Lex is going to kill my mother unless you help me" and that might just have gotten through to Batman. Instead, Superman just keeps batting away the Batman instead of just explaining with a simple, single short sentence. Not only that but Bruce Wayne had been investigating Luther while searching for a way to kill Superman and he had a pretty good idea that Luther was a bad guy. Batman would put it all together rather quickly if Superman had just grabbed him and told him the deal right from the start of the "fight".
Ok, let's forget about that. Lois Lane gets the Kyrptospear and tosses it into a well so that later she has to go back and get the spear for the sole purpose of creating tension because she gets trapped and is going to drown. You don't create tension by having characters doing stupid shit. There are much better ways to create tension. It's just facepalm cliches.
Let's forget about that, I suppose Lois is supposed to be stupid and a damsel in distress so that Superman can keep saving her every time she does something dumb. We got Wonder Woman, typically a goofy character to begin with in which the movie manages to make really cool. She's a badass in this movie, and she serves zero purpose. Hey, instead of having Superman stab Doomsday so that he can in turn get stabbed to death himself, let Wonder Woman toss that Kyrptospear like a javelin right into Doomsday's heart after Batman Kryptogasses him? Then you'd have an actual purpose for Wonder Woman. Ok whatever, Superman has to die. In all truth, the movie would have been better if you get rid of Batman and Superman and just have Wonder Woman fight Doomsday the whole movie.
Which brings us to the fifteen minute funeral scene. Jesus Christ! Snyder loves his funeral scenes, Watchmen had a fifteen minute funeral scene as well except that funeral scene was actually important to the plot. A nice long funeral scene so we can all get excited when the dirt starts levitating on Superman's casket. So what movie are we seeing here? The Death of Superman movie? Or the Dawn of Justice (League) movie? Maybe a Batman vs Superman movie? Naw, scratch that last one. This wasn't that or even close to the real Batman vs Superman story which would actually make a great movie by itself.
You see, this movie tried to cram in a bunch of concepts into one movie. You've got the Bat vs Superman, you've got the Justice League, you've got the death of Superman, each of which could have been an interesting movie in and of themselves. Instead they try to cram them all in together and screwed all of them up. The CCTV footage of the future league members was ridiculous. Aquaman looked terrible, Cyborg was corny as hell and there isn't anything to say about Flash except he has his own TV show for Heaven's sake, you don't think there is a better way to set that up?
The Batman vs Superman part of the movie was idiotic, why is Batman so angry at Superman? Superman didn't destroy the building with Bruce Wayne's employees out of malice or forethought. Superman was doing everything he could to protect them. It was Zod who did the evil deeds. Batman blaming Superman makes zero sense at all. That could have been done a lot better obviously, it was trope at best.
Then you've got the death of Superman. My eyes roll even now as I remember Lois Lane pleading to Superman "don't do it!" like an idiot, what else is he supposed to do? Just some more of that cringe worthy dialogue. They did the same thing to Doomsday that they did to Deadpool in the Xmen Origins movie when they screwed up Deadpool's character by giving him a whole bunch of powers he never had in the comics. Newsflash, you don't need to have Doomsday shooting laser beams out of his face or turning him into a walking mininuke, he's already badass enough being ultra strong, highly resistant to virtually all forms of damage and massive healing power.
The movie is a complete mess that only severe fanboys can appreciate. I like superheroes, comics but unfortunately I'm not a brain dead fanboy so I was unable to look past the many, many flaws in this movie and watch with a suspension of belief. For the movie to be good the film maker needs to make the audience to experience that suspension or it all falls apart.
I saw this movie with a full crowd. The theater was full. When Wonder Woman made her appearance, silence. No claps, no cheers, nothing. If the movie had been done right the theater should have erupted.
Lex at the end, his whatever he had, psychotic break? I dunno, but the camera peeling back as he did his thing was supposed to give the audience a sense of dread. Instead it made everyone want to look at their watch and wonder when this turd of a movie was going to be done. They totally screwed up Lex Luther's character. No one in the theater gave a shit when Superman got stabbed to death, no one gave a shit when the obvious hint that Superman wasn't really dead was revealed. No one gives a shit that Darkseid is coming because the movie is an incoherent mess that no one except fanboys with esoteric knowledge of comic nuances understands. How many people do you think realized that was The Flash who appeared to Bruce Wayne in his ridiculous dream sequence? No one except religious Superman, JLA and Batman comic collectors.
And that's a shame, it could have been so much better. I was hoping it would be so much better. The movie sucked. Just like I won't go see another Xmen movie in the theaters after that turd Xmen 3 movie, nor will I spend my money to go see another Justice League movie especially when you got the same director that screwed this movie up so badly. Hey, instead of wasting so much time on bullshit funerals, dream sequences, illogical vendettas, how about a little character development or barring that maybe a little bit of logic at least.
I'm gonna go see the Suicide Squad movie but I'm a bit nervous about that because it's PG13 instead of being R rated like it should be. After this crap movie I am hoping beyond hope that they haven't screwed up the Suicide Squad.
