The people come together as one

[mrswdk]

Vulgar protester with nothing to say ejected from Trump rally, noble men who ejected her brought onstage and shine like phoenixes.

[mrswdk]

America doesn't need another politician with empty promises and no results - it needs a voice for its people.

[Army of GOD]

I don't get it

[riskllama]

and you think Drumpf is that guy, mrs? I sure don't...

[mrswdk]

The Obamas, Clintons, Romneys etc... what have they achieved? Shit. Gridlock and stagnation. The Establishment fails and fails again. Trump has come as the antidote to the Establishment, and many, many people support him for it.

[riskllama]

Drumpf's a fool and you know it, mrs...
troll on, you crazy diamond.

[waauw]

Drumpf's a fool and you know it, mrs...
troll on, you crazy diamond.

Let's face it, mrswdk also thinks Mao was a great leader. Mrswdk liking Trump isn't all that special after that.

[GabonX]

and you think Drumpf is that guy, mrs? I sure don't...

The whole Drumpf campaign is fundamentally racist you hypocritical bigot.

[mrswdk]

What's the fuss about Trump? I mean, if you look at his overall policies he's actually a fairly moderate member of the current Republican pack. Literally the only reason people are going ape is because he said there should be a temporary halt on Muslims entering the US. That one quote is being used to turn him into the next Hitler, which is kinda ridiculous.

Obviously what he said re Muslims is extreme, but you have to ask yourself: what is his appeal? His appeal is that he is not one of the Washington inside crowd who have been screwing things up for years and years now. People have seen a long line of Establishment politicians come along and fail to do anything to improve the situation of ordinary Americans, and during this current election season they are rejecting the Establishment in favor of non-Establishment candidates (Trump and Sanders).

You can bitch and moan and support Clinton all you like, but you are sticking your fingers in your ears and ignoring the discontent of millions of Americans. If you don't want people to support outsiders then your focus should be on ensuring the insiders do the job which they are supposed to. At the moment, they are not.

[mrswdk]

Congress sank to a 9% approval rating during the last presidential term. People look upon their representatives in Washington, and their repeated failures, with contempt. People resent the way in which their so-called representatives are more beholden to interest groups and lobbyists than the electorate. Is it any wonder that in 2016 people are rejecting candidates who represent business as usual?

[riskllama]

the guy's a tool with ZERP political experience. his policies change from day to day. he has no business running for political office, period.

[GabonX]

the guy's a tool with ZERP political experience. his policies change from day to day. he has no business running for political office, period.

So in your eyes that makes it OK for you to be a hypocritical bigot...

A guy with zero political experience (synonymous with political corruption) but proven to be one of the most successful managers in the world sounds like an ideal candidate to me, as delegating responsibility to competent parties is the most important skill a President can have. Luckily, for the first time in a long time we have multiple good choices running for President.

I'm not totally sold on Trump, but the hypocrisy of leftists making fun of his ethnic family name is striking. It's just so hypocritical and the people that do it have no class. Most of them are probably too dumb to realize what hypocrites they are.

[patches70]

the guy's a tool with ZERP political experience. his policies change from day to day. he has no business running for political office, period.

As opposed to the great job the career politicians have been doing?

mrswdk hit the nail on the head. The Republicans and the Democrats have been giving the American electorate a big middle finger. Trump is the way the electorate is going to give the finger to the parties.

Trump ain't gonna be able to build a wall, Congress has to apportion the money to do that. He can't make immigration law as a President.
What Trump can do is change policy which at this point might not be a bad idea. Especially foreign policy. Hopefully he will live to his word when he says he's not going to get us embroiled in foreign intrigues. Maybe he'll stop the insane drone bombing of brown people at weddings. Maybe he won't order the assassination of US citizens. Maybe he'll enforce immigration law like the President is supposed to do and if Congress wants to change immigration law, hopefully he'll enforce those changes, like he's supposed to.

Social justice warriors created Trump. The PC police have bullied, harassed and pushed people too far that there are large swaths of electorate that are glad there is someone standing up to the PC police and telling them to f*ck off, figuratively speaking, and actually speaking his mind whether people agree or not. The only thing the social justice warrior can respond with is "Racist!" but since the PC crowd has been screaming racist at every infraction they perceive no one gives a shit anymore what the social justice warrior says or thinks.

There is nothing wrong or racist with a nation wanting to protect it's borders. A revelation late blooming in the European nations but even they are seeing. There is nothing wrong with a nation wanting to protect it's industrial base and oppose deals like NAFTA, TIPP and such which were negotiated by Tranzies.
<shrugs> You all be over reacting with a lot of fear over Trump. It's kinda funny to be honest.

[Symmetry]

How much money do you think it would cost the US to fully implement its immigration laws Patches? And how much money would be lost from the economy if all those workers left?

I'm fascinated by your desire to see the US economy crippled and government spending go through the roof, but does your hatred of immigrants really justify the practical consequences?

[waauw]

What's the fuss about Trump? I mean, if you look at his overall policies he's actually a fairly moderate member of the current Republican pack. Literally the only reason people are going ape is because he said there should be a temporary halt on Muslims entering the US. That one quote is being used to turn him into the next Hitler, which is kinda ridiculous.

Obviously what he said re Muslims is extreme, but you have to ask yourself: what is his appeal? His appeal is that he is not one of the Washington inside crowd who have been screwing things up for years and years now. People have seen a long line of Establishment politicians come along and fail to do anything to improve the situation of ordinary Americans, and during this current election season they are rejecting the Establishment in favor of non-Establishment candidates (Trump and Sanders).

You can bitch and moan and support Clinton all you like, but you are sticking your fingers in your ears and ignoring the discontent of millions of Americans. If you don't want people to support outsiders then your focus should be on ensuring the insiders do the job which they are supposed to. At the moment, they are not.

Trump is too undiplomatic, too emotionally unstable and too impulsive. He doesn't see the long-term consequences of promoting racist propaganda and he casts almost everything into black and white(as opposed to grey). Moreover he just plainly acts like an undisciplined child.

PS: personally I think Sanders would be the best candidate. He speaks out against establishment as well, but at least he does it the way he's supposed to, with a more stoic calmness.

[GabonX]

How much money do you think it would cost the US to fully implement its immigration laws Patches? And how much money would be lost from the economy if all those workers left?

I'm fascinated by your desire to see the US economy crippled and government spending go through the roof, but does your hatred of immigrants really justify the practical consequences?

Just tax immigrant labor from Mexico and slap down a few tariffs, and or put a 10% wire transfer fee on all money sent to Mexico from the US.

Let Mexico pay for it.

[Symmetry]

How much money do you think it would cost the US to fully implement its immigration laws Patches? And how much money would be lost from the economy if all those workers left?

I'm fascinated by your desire to see the US economy crippled and government spending go through the roof, but does your hatred of immigrants really justify the practical consequences?

Just tax immigrant labor from Mexico and slap down a few tariffs, and or put a 10% wire transfer fee on all money sent to Mexico from the US.

Let Mexico pay for it.

Well, it's good to see you've thought this out carefully

[waauw]

How much money do you think it would cost the US to fully implement its immigration laws Patches? And how much money would be lost from the economy if all those workers left?

I'm fascinated by your desire to see the US economy crippled and government spending go through the roof, but does your hatred of immigrants really justify the practical consequences?

Just tax immigrant labor from Mexico and slap down a few tariffs, and or put a 10% wire transfer fee on all money sent to Mexico from the US.

Let Mexico pay for it.

So it's about implementing a discriminating law which focuses on one specific minority? Is that even legal over there? I know it would be unconstitutional this side of the pond.

[Army of GOD]

How much money do you think it would cost the US to fully implement its immigration laws Patches? And how much money would be lost from the economy if all those workers left?

I'm fascinated by your desire to see the US economy crippled and government spending go through the roof, but does your hatred of immigrants really justify the practical consequences?

Just tax immigrant labor from Mexico and slap down a few tariffs, and or put a 10% wire transfer fee on all money sent to Mexico from the US.

Let Mexico pay for it.

So it's about implementing a discriminating law which focuses on one specific minority? Is that even legal over there? I know it would be unconstitutional this side of the pond.

it's pretty damn difficult for any other nationality to enter the US illegal (I guess, other than Canadians)

after a quick google, I found this:




Now, I trust a infographic with no sources as much as a trust a person pretending to be a chinese woman on a Risk-like online website, but I doubt this is that far from the truth. Mexicans make up the majority of illegal immigrants by a wide margin I would reckon


I'm not saying I agree with the legislation...I think it's counterproductive, but if I were to support stopping illegal immigration, I would start with La Mexique

[Army of GOD]

I worked as a kid. I used to babysit Satan's literal offspring. He had red hair and anytime he touched chocolate milk he became one of the gremlins who ate after midnight.

"nightmarish" falls quite short of the horror I exprienced babysitting him

[Symmetry]

How much money do you think it would cost the US to fully implement its immigration laws Patches? And how much money would be lost from the economy if all those workers left?

I'm fascinated by your desire to see the US economy crippled and government spending go through the roof, but does your hatred of immigrants really justify the practical consequences?

Just tax immigrant labor from Mexico and slap down a few tariffs, and or put a 10% wire transfer fee on all money sent to Mexico from the US.

Let Mexico pay for it.

So it's about implementing a discriminating law which focuses on one specific minority? Is that even legal over there? I know it would be unconstitutional this side of the pond.

it's pretty damn difficult for any other nationality to enter the US illegal (I guess, other than Canadians)

after a quick google, I found this:




Now, I trust a infographic with no sources as much as a trust a person pretending to be a chinese woman on a Risk-like online website, but I doubt this is that far from the truth. Mexicans make up the majority of illegal immigrants by a wide margin I would reckon


I'm not saying I agree with the legislation...I think it's counterproductive, but if I were to support stopping illegal immigration, I would start with La Mexique

I'd start with working out how much it would cost to find, arrest, process, and deport 11.4 million people.

[GabonX]

Mexico already has tariffs on American goods, so it's fair and rational to do the same thing on Mexican goods coming into the United States. Mexican labor should be taxed just like anyone else's. We don't need new laws in this respect, but rather just to enforce laws already on the books.

As for setting a wire transfer fee regarding money going from the US to Mexico, there's nothing wrong with the United States establishing a cost to do business in it's borders. If you have a problem with limiting this just to funds transferred to Mexico, the fee could expand to all money sent out of the US via wire transfer. That means that instead of the $1.35 billion we would gather from money sent to Mexico, the United States would collect $12 billion a year, more than enough to build a wall.

It's not racist or discriminatory. Every other country has programs like this in place, and the United States is more than in it's right to do it.

[Symmetry]

Mexico already has tariffs on American goods, so it's fair and rational to do the same thing on Mexican goods coming into the United States. Mexican labor should be taxed just like anyone else's. We don't need new laws in this respect, but rather just to enforce laws already on the books.

As for setting a wire transfer fee regarding money going from the US to Mexico, there's nothing wrong with the United States establishing a cost to do business in it's borders. If you have a problem with limiting this just to funds transferred to Mexico, the fee could expand to all money sent out of the US via wire transfer. That means that instead of the $1.35 billion we would gather from money sent to Mexico, the United States would collect $12 billion a year, more than enough to build a wall.

It's not racist or discriminatory. Every other country has programs like this in place, and the United States is more than in it's right to do it.

Your proposed tax on just Mexico and Mexican immigrants does seem discriminatory, what with the discriminating and all. But hey, that's just pointing out the obvious.

How do you feel about the idea of "No taxation without representation"?

[GabonX]

Mexico already has tariffs on American goods, so it's fair and rational to do the same thing on Mexican goods coming into the United States. Mexican labor should be taxed just like anyone else's. We don't need new laws in this respect, but rather just to enforce laws already on the books.

As for setting a wire transfer fee regarding money going from the US to Mexico, there's nothing wrong with the United States establishing a cost to do business in it's borders. If you have a problem with limiting this just to funds transferred to Mexico, the fee could expand to all money sent out of the US via wire transfer. That means that instead of the $1.35 billion we would gather from money sent to Mexico, the United States would collect $12 billion a year, more than enough to build a wall.

It's not racist or discriminatory. Every other country has programs like this in place, and the United States is more than in it's right to do it.

Your proposed tax on just Mexico and Mexican immigrants does seem discriminatory, what with the discriminating and all. But hey, that's just pointing out the obvious.

How do you feel about the idea of "No taxation without representation"?

Reading comprehension was never your strong point.