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------Well,on a day that comes around once every four years. Or 1,000 mass shootings,going by an American calendar. Feb.29th,2016 we hit a 1,000 mass shootings. Since the Sandy Hook school shooting in Conn.,in 2012. A student,JAMES HANCOCK, opened fire today in the lunch room at an Ohio High school.4 students were injured. Thank God we got to a 1,000 with no deaths. ....But it is a 1,000.From kids,crazy people,terrorists and many others.The number over the next four years will get higher....FLAGS DON'T KILL PEOPLE...SYMBOLS DON'T KILL PEOPLE...WORDS DON'T KILL PEOPLE...PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE...... Will America ever learn? ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)...

ConfederateSS wrote:------Well,on a day that comes around once every four years. Or 1,000 mass shootings,going by an American calendar. Feb.29th,2016 we hit a 1,000 mass shootings. Since the Sandy Hook school shooting in Conn.,in 2012. A student,JAMES HANCOCK, opened fire today in the lunch room at an Ohio High school.4 students were injured. Thank God we got to a 1,000 with no deaths. ....But it is a 1,000.From kids,crazy people,terrorists and many others.The number over the next four years will get higher....FLAGS DON'T KILL PEOPLE...SYMBOLS DON'T KILL PEOPLE...WORDS DON'T KILL PEOPLE...PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE...... Will America ever learn? ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)...

Kind of a conflicting message from you

jgordon1111 wrote:

ConfederateSS wrote:------Well,on a day that comes around once every four years. Or 1,000 mass shootings,going by an American calendar. Feb.29th,2016 we hit a 1,000 mass shootings. Since the Sandy Hook school shooting in Conn.,in 2012. A student,JAMES HANCOCK, opened fire today in the lunch room at an Ohio High school.4 students were injured. Thank God we got to a 1,000 with no deaths. ....But it is a 1,000.From kids,crazy people,terrorists and many others.The number over the next four years will get higher....FLAGS DON'T KILL PEOPLE...SYMBOLS DON'T KILL PEOPLE...WORDS DON'T KILL PEOPLE...PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE...... Will America ever learn? ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)...

Kind of a conflicting message from you

No it's not. It makes absolute sense. Sandy Hook was blamed on the confederate flag and since the confederate flag has since been virtually banned. Some people said that was stupid because banning the confederate flag (we do did have freedom of expression didn't we?) wouldn't stop mass shootings or even slow them down.
Confederate SS is making a point that political correctness isn't going to make you safer. Banning people from speaking their mind no matter how despicable one might find such speech doesn't actually stop the hate. It just hides it.

patches70 wrote:

jgordon1111 wrote:

ConfederateSS wrote:------Well,on a day that comes around once every four years. Or 1,000 mass shootings,going by an American calendar. Feb.29th,2016 we hit a 1,000 mass shootings. Since the Sandy Hook school shooting in Conn.,in 2012. A student,JAMES HANCOCK, opened fire today in the lunch room at an Ohio High school.4 students were injured. Thank God we got to a 1,000 with no deaths. ....But it is a 1,000.From kids,crazy people,terrorists and many others.The number over the next four years will get higher....FLAGS DON'T KILL PEOPLE...SYMBOLS DON'T KILL PEOPLE...WORDS DON'T KILL PEOPLE...PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE...... Will America ever learn? ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)...

Kind of a conflicting message from you

No it's not. It makes absolute sense. Sandy Hook was blamed on the confederate flag and since the confederate flag has since been virtually banned. Some people said that was stupid because banning the confederate flag (we do did have freedom of expression didn't we?) wouldn't stop mass shootings or even slow them down.
Confederate SS is making a point that political correctness isn't going to make you safer. Banning people from speaking their mind no matter how despicable one might find such speech doesn't actually stop the hate. It just hides it.

Got nothing against the flag, and would agree on freedom of speech, what I was pointing to is his sign out, that was over and done with a long time ago, promoting it today is abhorrent, and promotes further division among people Caucasian and everyone else. So tell me if I am misunderstanding his message!

can we ban americans from america?

I think you should create a special assassin tourney on all USA maps to celebrate this milestone confederates!

Army of GOD wrote:can we ban americans from america?

Where you going with this AOG?

jgordon1111 wrote:
Got nothing against the flag, and would agree on freedom of speech, what I was pointing to is his sign out, that was over and done with a long time ago, promoting it today is abhorrent, and promotes further division among people Caucasian and everyone else. So tell me if I am misunderstanding his message!

What do you mean by "his sign out"? Are you talking about his avatar or his screen name? Or his "The Blue and Silver Rebellion" at the end of his posts?

Because if it's any of those then then it's still free speech and as long as he's not violating the rules of the site (a private entity that can decide what is and isn't allowed). One is either for freedom of speech or against it, no matter how offensive one might find such speech.

Freedom of speech isn't about protecting popular speech, it's about protecting controversial speech. If Confederate SS wants to pay homage to the confederate rebellion, more power to him. Making him get rid of his name or image or speech at the end of his posts doesn't promote cooperation. It's not like that will change his mind unless you prefer fake cooperation which is all you'd be doing.

His sign off shows what he believes in, if you make him stop using it then people won't know. He'll still have the same beliefs, the same reverence and anyone looking at his speech and avatar instantly knows and can decide for themselves what they want to think. But if you hide all that from people then what do you have? He's still the same person but the queues that were present are gone and so he just becomes hidden. By driving speech that you don't like away you don't get rid of it, you merely drive it underground. And that certain doesn't help either.

I'm all for people saying whatever. At least then you see what they are right away, for better or worse. Full disclosure if you will. The more extreme the better because it shows everyone what the ideas are and people have better information upon which to decide for themselves what to think. The more vile the speech the more sure one knows to reject an individual or organization or idea.

I don't have any problem with his point, I kinda agree with it. It was nuts the hysteria over the confederate flag is/was. I don't particularly agree with armed rebellion too often, and certainly not the institution of slavery, but trying to make people hide what they believe in merely moves people into the shadows, it doesn't get rid of the beliefs. And from the shadows is where the danger comes and is most unexpected. Danger in front of your face can be seen and planned for, danger you can't see is far graver. IMO.

Until EVERY legal gunseller integrates mental health records and violent crime violators into their systems, this is going to happen more often. Background checks need to be revised and enforced EVERYWHERE so these kind of people can't purchase guns when they have a known mental or violent history.

patches70 wrote:

jgordon1111 wrote:
Got nothing against the flag, and would agree on freedom of speech, what I was pointing to is his sign out, that was over and done with a long time ago, promoting it today is abhorrent, and promotes further division among people Caucasian and everyone else. So tell me if I am misunderstanding his message!

What do you mean by "his sign out"? Are you talking about his avatar or his screen name? Or his "The Blue and Silver Rebellion" at the end of his posts?

Because if it's any of those then then it's still free speech and as long as he's not violating the rules of the site (a private entity that can decide what is and isn't allowed). One is either for freedom of speech or against it, no matter how offensive one might find such speech.

Freedom of speech isn't about protecting popular speech, it's about protecting controversial speech. If Confederate SS wants to pay homage to the confederate rebellion, more power to him. Making him get rid of his name or image or speech at the end of his posts doesn't promote cooperation. It's not like that will change his mind unless you prefer fake cooperation which is all you'd be doing.

His sign off shows what he believes in, if you make him stop using it then people won't know. He'll still have the same beliefs, the same reverence and anyone looking at his speech and avatar instantly knows and can decide for themselves what they want to think. But if you hide all that from people then what do you have? He's still the same person but the queues that were present are gone and so he just becomes hidden. By driving speech that you don't like away you don't get rid of it, you merely drive it underground. And that certain doesn't help either.

I'm all for people saying whatever. At least then you see what they are right away, for better or worse. Full disclosure if you will. The more extreme the better because it shows everyone what the ideas are and people have better information upon which to decide for themselves what to think. The more vile the speech the more sure one knows to reject an individual or organization or idea.

I don't have any problem with his point, I kinda agree with it. It was nuts the hysteria over the confederate flag is/was. I don't particularly agree with armed rebellion too often, and certainly not the institution of slavery, but trying to make people hide what they believe in merely moves people into the shadows, it doesn't get rid of the beliefs. And from the shadows is where the danger comes and is most unexpected. Danger in front of your face can be seen and planned for, danger you can't see is far graver. IMO.

Yes I was pointing out the blue and silver rebellion, I am for freedom of speech and he has every right to say what he wants, that was settled along time ago, the south is not going to rise again end of story its over, the confederate state's didn't win,and that is what I meant when I said a conflicting message in my first post,the only way a blue and silver rebellion can be rebuilt is through the violence that he condemns with his first post, you can't have it both ways

And I'm not saying that it will completely stop it, but it will decrease. And we need to stop giving repeat offenders a slap on the wrist.

betiko wrote:I think you should create a special assassin tourney on all USA maps to celebrate this milestone confederates!

-----I would but then people would take 23hrs55mins to start their turn ,then let their time run out,in every game. ....Thanks to the wonderful support of Conquer Club's High Command...To learn more..go to Feb.Challenge.
-----People tried here on C.C. to get symbols banned. While such symbols are in C.C. maps.etc..etc...Because a crazy person went crazy in S.C...Also,This is a WAR GAMING SITE...They are symbols and warriors of war...
-----The Blue and Silver Rebellion is my way to speak out against the High Command for the regular joes. The High Command favors the Cliques,Clans,and Tourney goers. When it's the regular joes that make up a majority of the site....Like Stratego colors...Red/Gold...Premium.....Blue/Silver....Freemium....
-----As for free speech.....It has to do with ones civil rights. You can boo/hold up America sucks signs. That is your right.But when people throw rotten eggs,tomatoes and spit on soldiers coming back from Vietnam. You no longer can use free speech. Because you have violated the soldier's civil rights....I watched that happen to my Father when he returned from Vietnam....It was the only time I seen him ashamed to be An American...He also hated the N.Y.Yankees and loved the movie Gone With The Wind and the musical Damn Yankees...So my things are a little for him and my respect for the Generals of the grey armies....When people want to get rid of something. That makes me want to fight for it....People blamed the Battle Flag. When it was a crazy person that shot up a church.Trying to ban things is something Hitler would do...Trying to ban things wont stop killing in America...Our society has changed.No honor or morals left in America. I have said ,the battle flag shouldn't be on something paid for by US tax dollars.Like the S.C.Capital Grounds. But on someone's private property,is their business...ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion). ...

ConfederateSS wrote:

betiko wrote:I think you should create a special assassin tourney on all USA maps to celebrate this milestone confederates!

-----I would but then people would take 23hrs55mins to start their turn ,then let their time run out,in every game. ....Thanks to the wonderful support of Conquer Club's High Command...To learn more..go to Feb.Challenge.
-----People tried here on C.C. to get symbols banned. While such symbols are in C.C. maps.etc..etc...Because a crazy person went crazy in S.C...Also,This is a WAR GAMING SITE...They are symbols and warriors of war...
-----The Blue and Silver Rebellion is my way to speak out against the High Command for the regular joes. The High Command favors the Cliques,Clans,and Tourney goers. When it's the regular joes that make up a majority of the site....Like Stratego colors...Red/Gold...Premium.....Blue/Silver....Freemium....
-----As for free speech.....It has to do with ones civil rights. You can boo/hold up America sucks signs. That is your right.But when people throw rotten eggs,tomatoes and spit on soldiers coming back from Vietnam. You no longer can use free speech. Because you have violated the soldier's civil rights....I watched that happen to my Father when he returned from Vietnam....It was the only time I seen him ashamed to be An American...He also hated the N.Y.Yankees and loved the movie Gone With The Wind and the musical Damn Yankees...So my things are a little for him and my respect for the Generals of the grey armies....When people want to get rid of something. That makes me want to fight for it....People blamed the Battle Flag. When it was a crazy person that shot up a church.Trying to ban things is something Hitler would do...Trying to ban things wont stop killing in America...Our society has changed.No honor or morals left in America. I have said ,the battle flag shouldn't be on something paid for by US tax dollars.Like the S.C.Capital Grounds. But on someone's private property,is their business...ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion). ...

If thats truly what you believe , thank you for clarifying, my mistake in misinterpreting.